5 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

You starting your post with a semantic argument is weak. Dice is on pause, I think he is town but no one is securely in my village but me right now. My read on Gud is most likely newb, but could be hiding behind it. Andy I  didn't like the way she voted me. It didn't look logical to me. Don has been missing too much to read. If this wasn't such a small game I might be willing to lynch him on General Principle. Sooh is interesting.  Now I get she is busy. She has two handfuls of things going on. It is mostly she has earned a spot in my village  and there were a few interactions that bothered me. It could be just Sooh being friendly but I also saw it as a way to ignore looking deeper at people.  I think it was you and Mills. So some of.my Sooh read is other people dependent.  As is my read on you.

 

I'm definitely town so, if you are then we need to work to find the wolfs. 

 

BTW, I forget. Have you read the books? I think it might help explain some behaviour if you get into the mindset of a WoT fan.

 

I AM THE WHEEL OF TIME!!!!!!

 

The Wheel of Time turns, and Villagers come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again....or Zander posts it to death....

 

I find it funny reading your posts and reasons irt to me while seeing you doing the exact same thing in the post your sussing me for...please understand how that might make me weary lololololol

 

Semantic lol I don't even know what that means so jokes on you pal!!!!!

5 hours ago, Sooh said:

Hey, if I'm not going to be able to play this game as properly or consistently as I want, at least I want to have fun with it 😉 Happy to have made you laugh, buddy ❤️

I feel like there's a process here, but I'm not sure I can clearly see it. What two wolves are you talking about? Do you have like a tier list of people from most to least trustworthy? Or maybe just give me those you suspect and a short reason why.

I kinda love the tone of this post. 

 

I would like the Tone too...if it wasn't coming from a self proclaimed new player.  The reads,bravado, connections all halfway thru D1 doesn't compute coming from a new player.  Feels like either not new or has help.  Ill be the first to apologize if I'm wrong post game but I'm having alot of trouble buying it.

I did have my suspicions of Cairos at the beginning but I would rather lynch Mills or Zander. So many people voting for Cairos makes me suspicious of the voters.

 

*sighs*

 

But I guess we need to have a lynching to see how things lie.

 

No rush yet to change my vote. 

 

If Cairos flips town, who is incriminated? Zander for marking him early doors? Turin for casting suspicion on Cairos because of Zander's post yet voting for Cairos and not Zander? Both of them? Part of some wolf dream team? 

 

You can really think round in circles in this game. 

5 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

Mainly, was the manner of her vote on me. She joked about with other people and kinda just slid the vote on with minimal reasoning.  Plus, to use a Zanderism,  she was 2nd on a bad train.

There hasn't been much solve coming out of her until the one post mentioned a bit ago. 

 

Since people are asking about "the thing". It was activity based. Earlier in the game she was pretty silent here but was quite active elsewhere on DM. I know because I was in those threads too while posting here. I have found that it is common for new wolves to be unsure of what to do and lurk early until they have had a chance to contact their teammates and/or get a better feel for the game. I have since decided to disregard that as I'm thinking that it is just as likely to happen as a townie given her posting about not wanting  to "throw dirt" I think was her term. 

 

Ok you move up in my Town read.

 

For the #raisins listed above.

Just now, Zander? said:

 

Ok you move up in my Town read.

 

For the #raisins listed above.

 

Maybe I think we both have strong stubborn personalities and makes us kinda butt heads when we play. I got many Wolves that before people starting complaining about it and now I understand why you didn't wanna answer.  But I thank you for doing so it's helping me feel better about you almost instantly lol

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

I would like the Tone too...if it wasn't coming from a self proclaimed new player.  The reads,bravado, connections all halfway thru D1 doesn't compute coming from a new player.  Feels like either not new or has help.  Ill be the first to apologize if I'm wrong post game but I'm having alot of trouble buying it.

This is sus. You aren't making an argument against me but still casting shade. 100% wolf behaviour. If I die note this well. 

5 hours ago, Sooh said:

I like this, because I feel like a new player would be less bold if they were trying to conceal something.

Not sure I understand your read on Heavy. Mills and Cairos I can agree with. Don is a true null read for me atp, and yeah... I guess so is Gudrean and Andy. D1 is fun everyone!

Why do you hate that?

 

When a new player thinks they're the NK

4 hours ago, Sooh said:

I'm looking forward to talking discussing debating arguing with you

 

Ily Soohray!!!!  ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

4 hours ago, Sooh said:

Who out of the players that have played a lot with Zander suspects Zander for being Zander? Turin? Did you think of anyone else?

 

Crap.. am I starting to agree with Z now?

 

It's a Mad Mad World nowadays Soohray....I mean I know I'm crazy AF but what I say does make alot of sense....to all the voices in my head.... LOLOLOLOLOL 

4 hours ago, Sooh said:

Alright, here's where I'm at

 

Town-ish:

Dice

 

Gudrean

Andy

 

Not touching D1: 

Turin

Z

 

Null:

Don

 

Sus:
Heavy

Mills

 

Red flags abound: 

Cairos

 

Unvote

 

Vote Cairos

 

I don't think I line up with your reads but I don't hate you sharing and the reasons as they could make sense from either Soohray perspective iirc.  Either way you are not on my lunch menu today!!!!

4 hours ago, Sooh said:

About the not voting D1 guys

 

Turin seems ok to me so far. No strong pings either way. 

Z is like a hurricane when playing, and he is the same gimmicky villager/minority villager regardless of alignment, so I'm content with not reading him D1. With any luck if he's an actual villager, the scums will take care of him overnight anyway 😛

 

 

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4 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I'm talking about Turin and Dice being so suspicious of Zander's memes in the first ten minutes of the game. I get we don't have a lot to go at that point, but shoildnt we be reserving judgement until we see a pattern? 

 

That said Zander did choose those memes and subjects deliberately so... 

 

General rule of Mafia 101-  90% or so of first 10 pages or so D1 is null at best cause jfs mostly fluff and mostly and Mafia player with even a bit of exp can mimic at the beginning.

4 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I cannot see the original post that made me think Dice was overreacting (allegedly) to Zander. Here though we can see him not denying his suspicion but rationalising it 

 

So tricky. You are all sus. 

 

I think Mills is flying a bit under the radar. He seemed a bit too keen to latch onto "towniest of townies", a bit too keen to back up a Turin vote, a little bit too quiet (though real life obviously way more important, even for a wolf). And Donchadh also backed up Turin vote without adding to the vote themselves. 

 

Not sure about Cairos. Some red flags, but some based on other people's behaviour other than  his own. 

 

And everyone wants to believe Sooh. That reasonable voice, gentle humour, the way she intelligently sees there is nothing sus about the way I'm playing - or she knows for certain I'm town therefore can easily back me up for town brownie points. 

 

Until people start to reacting to who dies, who gets lynched, etc, this is all a big nothing burger imo. 

 

To me the game doesn't truly begin till we have Wagonomics to dissect!

1 hour ago, Gudrean said:

Cheese and Rice!  If I wasn't confused before I am now. Not complaining because I find it all amusing and fun. Trying to think of how I would behave if I was a wolf trying to through the townies off, but in RL i'm pretty much an open book and usually pretty honest unless it would hurt someone's feelings. So here goes:

 

@Donchadh is mostly MIA - not sure if that is RL stuffs or purposely being quiet cause he's a wolf.

@Andy MacLeod has some of the best logic and clear explanation I have read. But does that mean she's a wolf or has a mentor?

@Sooh gives me nice auntie vibes but I don't know her well enough to see through that if it's wolfy play.

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade does seem to be quite astute of a player for a newbie but he could just be that awesome!

@Cairos My brother and leader, I was sus of him at first but not sure now since he's throwing I'm as lost as you vibes lately. Everyone else seems to think he's experienced at this though which makes me sus of it, plus he's busy saving lives. 

@Zander? Gives me gigantic red flags just for the sheer number of posts but everyone agrees he is always a massive poster. So we will return to him later. 

@dicetosser1 Super experienced and could work a newbie like me easily into thinking he's town. But gives me helpful big brother vibes.

@Turin Turambar Has made me think townie most of the game but I could be just enjoying his knowledge and friendly nature. Also he's very experienced at this game and again i'm a noob.

@Millon Seems like a townie but also not at the same time so I am completely thrown off by him. Is he usually good at this game? I'm not sure so I can't get the best read.

 

I'm just not sure I can vote with a sound heart given the info I currently have. No one person has made me feel like they are absolutely wolf. I will abstain for day 1.

 

 

I have to take 3 of my kids to a dentist appt today so I will not be around during the end of day timer phase so I will just see what happens and hope that I don't get offed in the night due to my lack of vote.

 

I don't know if I want to see you lunched today after this...FML lololololol it feels ...wholesome lawlme prolly

1 hour ago, Gudrean said:

Actually I might be back in time for EoD phase but I still believe in my choice of not voting!

 

 

 

I take back my last post/thought... you mention no lunch again you hang today EoD!!!!!!

59 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

@Gudrean, I humbly request that you reconsider voting. For if you are town and you abstain then we need EVERY SINGLE TOWNIE to vote the same person or to get some mafia to vote their own in order to lynch a wolf today.

 

If we don't get a lynch we get no info.

 

Turin is now locked D1 Villa for me

46 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

I guess I will go with my original choice then.

 

Vote: Cairos

 

Can't give you quotes but just to say he seemed sus to me in the beginning and seems to be playing it safe a lot.

 

Could just be that he's busy but that could also be helping him in this situation. 

 

Man this Cairo's wagon building is starting to feel a little too much LHF fruit Scum push.  Especially with no real counter wagon unless the Wagons have changed and I'm not up to date.

38 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

TURIN - 1  (Andy)

CAIROS - 4 (Dice, Turin, Sooh, Gudrean)

HEAVY - 2 (Millon, Zander)

ZANDER - 1 (Heavy)

ANDY - 1 (Cairos)

 

NOT VOTING - Donchadh

 

6 to Lynch - Hammer Game

 

End of Day 1 Timer

 

https://stagetimer.io/r/UVDHPDFH/

 

Votes in Bold Red. You must Unvote before changing your vote.

 

NOONE ELSE VOTE CAIROS YET!!!!

 

TOO EARLY...WE HAVE TIME AND THERES NO REAL COUNTER TRAIN.

 

WE MAY END UP THERE BUT IF CAIROS IS TOWN TOMORROW IS A CLUSTER-F WITH EASY OUTS FOR WOLVES ON TRAIN AND EBOLAIDS FOR VILLAS WHO WERE JUST WRONG IN A TOWN!CAIROS WORLD

30 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

This is how I feel at the moment!

 

This is how I feel 24/7 365 lolololol

24 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I did have my suspicions of Cairos at the beginning but I would rather lynch Mills or Zander. So many people voting for Cairos makes me suspicious of the voters.

 

*sighs*

 

But I guess we need to have a lynching to see how things lie.

 

No rush yet to change my vote. 

 

If Cairos flips town, who is incriminated? Zander for marking him early doors? Turin for casting suspicion on Cairos because of Zander's post yet voting for Cairos and not Zander? Both of them? Part of some wolf dream team? 

 

You can really think round in circles in this game. 

 

You can't be a new player....like it just doesn't compute in my broken brain

24??? 24 PAGES?? Ouch, I may never sleep again if that's what I have to catch up on when I wake up 😱

3 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Man this Cairo's wagon building is starting to feel a little too much LHF fruit Scum push.  Especially with no real counter wagon unless the Wagons have changed and I'm not up to date.

Like I said I don't have a solid read on any one person but I want the infos we'll receive if a lynch happens so I went with my original choice. Plus I would feel bad if it was my fault we didn't get anywhere for not voting. I might be too nice for mafia lol But i'm enjoying the challenge and the peoples so....

23 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

This is sus. You aren't making an argument against me but still casting shade. 100% wolf behaviour. If I die note this well. 

 

Are you an alt account?!?!!!!

 

In catching up and haven't changed my vote yet.  I've mentioned numerous times that I suss you and why.

2 minutes ago, Andy MacLeod said:

24??? 24 PAGES?? Ouch, I may never sleep again if that's what I have to catch up on when I wake up 😱

 

It's all that butthead Zander's fault is a dumb jerk!!!!!!!!

1 minute ago, Gudrean said:

Like I said I don't have a solid read on any one person but I want the infos we'll receive if a lynch happens so I went with my original choice. Plus I would feel bad if it was my fault we didn't get anywhere for not voting. I might be too nice for mafia lol But i'm enjoying the challenge and the peoples so....

 

I don't hate your response hear.  It's not changing a read on you either way but I don't hate it.  My point still stands irt Cairo's and his Wagon.  I mean we could have a Wolf pelt but I don't like meh trains on D1 that build quick and early with no Counter Wagon much more often it's a Villa flip than a Wolf flip.