I think my head went to tracker because it was missing the context of if the flip is wolf.

 

Obviously if one of them flips town there is no value in watching the other.

 

So maybe my reaction has some merit but toned down from 11 to a 2 or 3.

 

13 hours ago, Gudrean said:

I'm only asking as a learning point and not as an alignment point but is it at all possible that the Lenlo/Zander thing is bussing? Sorry guys just trying to learn.

 

With those two, it would certainly be in the play book.  They don't get a full game pass for it if the other flips wolf.  As I've said I do think Zander is town, but that level of back and forth with a hypothetical wolf Lenlo does not clear him the way it can clear some people.

My daughter had a nightmare so here I am. 

 

The votes against me make sense. The Vig fishing was a bad idea but perhaps I over estimated the likelihood of Zander getting lynched today. I thought he had a lot of people's backs up so to speak but under estimated how much his reputation of a good player will give him the benefit of the doubt, at least D1. 

 

However as I am town, whether lynched or not let's try to find some scum. 

 

My favourite player so far has been Lenlo. I suspect Zander and Lenlo saga is town on town violence but who knows. Definitely not both wolves at least. 

 

I think there might be at least one wolf among Verbal, Turin, and Dice. Of the three, maybe I'd go Verbal. Of the three he's done the most posting while playing the game the least IMO. 

 

Next another scum between Cass, Cairos, and Gudren. Of the three Gudrean has contributed the most but mostly about herself and telling everyone to be nice and tu or convince us she's a great git player on a sample size of one game. Sorry but that's just luck at this point. Of the three I would probably pick Cairos, very apologetic about being absent because knows as scum it's unfair to quietly sail through based on inactivity? Maybe. 

 

Shad I don't know yet. Missing some of their posts now as I type this but so far has the luxury of just summarising things as they catch up. They are good sensible posts though. 

 

I feel like I can't remember who else is playing, which I would say is a bad sign for those people and would be among where the third scum is hiding, but I am not mathing right now. 

 

Oh Heavy! First posts showed his inexperience but posts have been improving since. Maybe some nice mafia coaching or mentorship in the QT

 

I think right now due to my mistake I am an easy day 1 vote so please watch the possible train on me carefully. Think those who voted me so far are probably town but the rest won't all be. I've unfortunately made an easy case for people to vote me today so my bad. 

13 hours ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Absolutely possible, yes.  This is why I like the idea of lynching one and having our watcher (or whatever town investigative role we have) peek the other.

 

In that world wolves would have to shoot themselves, otherwise best return you're going to get is an outed vig, ... I'll add an unless I'm being dumb since I was being dumb last time.

 

But I'll admit that your seeming lack of precise awareness of what town PRs are out there gives me a slight positive feeling.

13 hours ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

But with these roles, watcher will only tell us who visited someone if that person died. And the person who visited them could be mafia or vigilante, and not clear to me if we'd know what the person's role was, or just who person that visited was.

 

Most of the time it will yield x was visited by y no further information.

 

Whether the shot came from wolves or the town vig is usually very obvious especially with a little research.

13 hours ago, Lenlo said:

Plus it's worth noting, the Watcher is replaceable, so we're not at risk of losing that information if *they* get shot, right? I assume the new watcher gets access to all of the old watchers... watches?

 

I forgot about this

 

lol game just got easier

I don't think inherited information is likely but regardless watcher becomes cop-in-practice when there's only one wolf left so if we can clear out two wolves early there are a lot of avenues to lock the game.

 

Alright I made it through page 27 and I gotta go to bed, think I showed up around 30 so there shouldn't be much more catch-up tomorrow.

1 minute ago, Shad_ said:

 

I forgot about this

 

lol game just got easier

 

Was it confined by Ithi the previous Watchers choice and result is passed along?

3 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Was it confined by Ithi the previous Watchers choice and result is passed along?

No, see OP. Don't think Shad got there in catching up maybe 

2 hours ago, Shad_ said:

Oh damn there are three wolves.

 

I had it in my head all this time that there would be two because math is hard.

 

I understand completely 

 

#themathsarehard

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Shad_ said:

I vaguely remember being historically bad at reading dice but I think his catch-up post top of page 22 is good.

 

Nothings bothered me from him this far but as I mentioned earlier I haven't seen that one post/response, that Diceyness that makes me go yep he's prolly Town.....and whether he is or isn't we should lunch him while he's sleeping for lol's

 

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Thread -  OMG ZANDER IS FINALLY TRYING TO PUSH THIS , HES OBVIOUSLY A WOLF....LOLOLOLOL

 

 

1 hour ago, Shad_ said:

 

I like this.

 

I almost quoted your previous posts and pointed out that they seemed at odds with your vote.  Your tone had shifted to uncertainty about him but you didn't express a change in your read.

 

That you followed up unprompted with an unvote tells me your head was in the same place as your words. 

 

As much as I hate to admit it I'm nit convinced he's a Wolf ATP.  Lololok

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Shad_ said:

Just wanted to say because I'm seeing a couple of discomfort posts about the thread state yesterday, the aggro is all in good fun and can actually be pretty productive for some players in feeling each other out.  Obviously it's not for everybody, and if anyone's making you feel directly uncomfortable, please by all means let them know!  But I've played with Zander and Lenlo enough that I feel confident saying they weren't mad at each other, and if I get a bit scrappy with either of them down the road, the same applies.

 

I love Lenlo....I'm not sure he feels the same way but nothing he's said I've felt was personal and nothing I said was meant to be personal.

 

Come at me brah.....you're a meanie jerk face!!!!!!   Lololololol 

1 hour ago, Shad_ said:

 

This post is the oldest play in the Werewolf book but so blatant about it that I don't know what to think lol

 

Dude like seriously I wanted to insta vote him.  Didn't because TWTBAW right?  But I've been burned by doing this before a few times then I remembered the words of my Mafia teacher and Guru CorimusCaboose Prime, sometimes someone whose TWTBAW is a Villager young Padawan but sometimes someone's whose TWTBAW....is just a Wolf, then I voted him and now I'm back to TWTBAW and currently going back to thinking I was right in the first place.....FML lololololol 

1 hour ago, Shad_ said:

Thoughts on Turin's summary post.

 

Up to this point and including that post, I've never gotten the sense that he's pushing an agenda to lynch villagers.  Lack of agenda vibes was what had him in my village early, and that has sustained.  Wolves don't necessarily need an agenda on D1.  They can sit back and let the chaos of zero information reign.  But it's a good look up to this point.

 

I do find myself at odds with him on a lot of reads.  He has Lenlo pretty high and I'm mixed there.  He has Verbal pretty high and Verb's the only person I've found to be just wolfy with no counterpoint up to now.  He has Zander low albeit not in a damning way, and I think Zander's a villager.  One of us is wrong, or maybe we're both wrong to some degree about different things, but I get the inevitable jeebees that maybe he's a wolf who's not pushing an agenda wrt who we should lynch but is trying to prop up his team mates a bit.  These are conditional things and not a concern for today.  We'll see where the flips lead us.

 

I see this too, my concern tho is hehasn't like overly concerned me ATP but I feel playing very differently than last game where he was Town but I ask myself maybe, like me,is he trying to tone himself down some and tho I don't feel like he's the lunch today. Historically playing very differently than the exact previous game which worries me some tbh but so far in ok with him ATP.

1 hour ago, Shad_ said:

 

Yeah I mean

 

Obviously all of the things you've called out today have been easy things to call out but our heads have been in the same place so much that I'm barely even glancing over my shoulder before trusting you and it's still D1 lol

 

I dunno what the vote count is but I strongly advise against lynching Zander today.  Even if I'm dead wrong, which is historically unlikely, there are two other wolves to catch.

 

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I find this post Wolfy AF lolololol 

 

But seriously you better not break my heart Shad or I'll hate you forever lololol. ATP tho my reads are prolly pretty decent or in tinfoiling as the game goes on about Shad if he and I still alive lololol 

1 hour ago, Shad_ said:

RTE has been very nice in this game and I hate lynching nice people but so far his two major contributions have been

 

Encouraging a policy lynch of a likely villager

 

Asking the town PRs to out on D1

 

like

 

lol

 

gth on him Shad?

1 hour ago, Shad_ said:

 

No.

 

No.

 

You're a wolf Verb I'm sorry.

 

If we lynch one of Zander/Lenlo and the other is a wolf, in what universe would wolves ever have the other carry the kill?

 

This is like, just baiting a PR to use their action poorly regardless of Zander/Lenlo's alignments.

 

1 hour ago, Shad_ said:

Wait

 

No that's a tracker not a watcher.

lol I'm bad.

 

Sorry Verb

 

Is Verbs thought process about his plan only Wolfy if Tracker not Watcher iyo Shad and why? 

1 hour ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

My daughter had a nightmare so here I am. 

 

The votes against me make sense. The Vig fishing was a bad idea but perhaps I over estimated the likelihood of Zander getting lynched today. I thought he had a lot of people's backs up so to speak but under estimated how much his reputation of a good player will give him the benefit of the doubt, at least D1. 

 

However as I am town, whether lynched or not let's try to find some scum. 

 

My favourite player so far has been Lenlo. I suspect Zander and Lenlo saga is town on town violence but who knows. Definitely not both wolves at least. 

 

I think there might be at least one wolf among Verbal, Turin, and Dice. Of the three, maybe I'd go Verbal. Of the three he's done the most posting while playing the game the least IMO. 

 

Next another scum between Cass, Cairos, and Gudren. Of the three Gudrean has contributed the most but mostly about herself and telling everyone to be nice and tu or convince us she's a great git player on a sample size of one game. Sorry but that's just luck at this point. Of the three I would probably pick Cairos, very apologetic about being absent because knows as scum it's unfair to quietly sail through based on inactivity? Maybe. 

 

Shad I don't know yet. Missing some of their posts now as I type this but so far has the luxury of just summarising things as they catch up. They are good sensible posts though. 

 

I feel like I can't remember who else is playing, which I would say is a bad sign for those people and would be among where the third scum is hiding, but I am not mathing right now. 

 

Oh Heavy! First posts showed his inexperience but posts have been improving since. Maybe some nice mafia coaching or mentorship in the QT

 

I think right now due to my mistake I am an easy day 1 vote so please watch the possible train on me carefully. Think those who voted me so far are probably town but the rest won't all be. I've unfortunately made an easy case for people to vote me today so my bad. 

 

@ReleaseTheEvilYes i am sorry that i'm away from playing this game. Currently i am at work in the ER just trying to catch up on the game. It's not scummy that RL stuff comes first and then DM/WT/Mafia. Everybody has RL stuff thats more important. I also work the graveyard shift so working 7pm-7am. I'm at least trying to check in. 

Imntrying

I'm trying to not post so much and noone else is posting....

Official Vote Count

 

ZANDER - 1 (Heavy)

LENLO - 1 (Verbal)

RTE - 2 (Dice, Zander)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Cass, Gudrean, RTE, Turin, Shad, Lenlo

 

Day 1 will end 10pm GMT Friday 14 March.

 

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4 hours ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

My daughter had a nightmare so here I am. 

 

The votes against me make sense. The Vig fishing was a bad idea but perhaps I over estimated the likelihood of Zander getting lynched today. I thought he had a lot of people's backs up so to speak but under estimated how much his reputation of a good player will give him the benefit of the doubt, at least D1. 

 

However as I am town, whether lynched or not let's try to find some scum. 

 

My favourite player so far has been Lenlo. I suspect Zander and Lenlo saga is town on town violence but who knows. Definitely not both wolves at least. 

 

I think there might be at least one wolf among Verbal, Turin, and Dice. Of the three, maybe I'd go Verbal. Of the three he's done the most posting while playing the game the least IMO. 

 

Next another scum between Cass, Cairos, and Gudren. Of the three Gudrean has contributed the most but mostly about herself and telling everyone to be nice and tu or convince us she's a great git player on a sample size of one game. Sorry but that's just luck at this point. Of the three I would probably pick Cairos, very apologetic about being absent because knows as scum it's unfair to quietly sail through based on inactivity? Maybe. 

 

 

Reasons for Turin and me?

 

2 hours ago, Cairos said:

 

@ReleaseTheEvilYes i am sorry that i'm away from playing this game. Currently i am at work in the ER just trying to catch up on the game. It's not scummy that RL stuff comes first and then DM/BAND/Mafia. Everybody has RL stuff thats more important. I also work the graveyard shift so working 7pm-7am. I'm at least trying to check in. 

 

FTFY

@Shad_

 

 

1x Replaceable Town Watcher. If they are Lynched or Night Killed, another Town member will be randomly selected to take their place. They are not given the information from the previous Watchers.

 

 

Ithi updated the OP about the Watcher.  The info doesnt get passed on

I'm getting strong wolfy vibes off RTE and Verbal. Also the interactions between. RTE and Lenlo make me a bit suspicious. Are they trying to give town cred or something or is one laying a false trail so if they flip wolf the other is implicated?

 

It feels somehow false. 

 

But getting to crunch time of voting when all this touchy feely business will come to an end. 

 

Take that as you will, wish I was clearer on how much the posters themselves are influencing me compared to other people's takes.

Zander, I asked you earlier if all of your game start things about me (wolfy for posting memes,etc...) was you just trolling me as a Wolf because "Turin is always a wolf" or if you were serious?

 

I asked for a reason not just related to you.

5 hours ago, Shad_ said:

 

Yeah I mean

 

Obviously all of the things you've called out today have been easy things to call out but our heads have been in the same place so much that I'm barely even glancing over my shoulder before trusting you and it's still D1 lol

 

I dunno what the vote count is but I strongly advise against lynching Zander today.  Even if I'm dead wrong, which is historically unlikely, there are two other wolves to catch.

 

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This is the wolfiest post EVAH!!!!!!

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How could you not put a werewolf picture in there? Up your game,bro

 

3 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

I see this too, my concern tho is hehasn't like overly concerned me ATP but I feel playing very differently than last game where he was Town but I ask myself maybe, like me,is he trying to tone himself down some and tho I don't feel like he's the lunch today. Historically playing very differently than the exact previous game which worries me some tbh but so far in ok with him ATP.

Yes, I'm trying to be nicer, less in people's faces aa I think we overly dominated the thread last game and it nearly went all wrong. There were a few critical things that helped pull our bacon out of the fire. Also, some things going on so sadly this game is not my top priority at the present.  Finally,  although you have pinged me some here, I haven't seen the TOWN LEADER thing so much so haven't had to rail against it, because no one should dominate the entire thread. At least imo.