11 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Yes. 

8 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Yes. 

Lolololololol

 

But what?

9 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Lolololololol

 

But what?

I don't know nuffink, guvnor. You're asking the wrong girl. 

My new happy post pic. This is actually also my phone background.

1 minute ago, Turin Turambar said:

My new happy post pic. This is actually also my phone background.

WOLF! 

17 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

My new happy post pic. This is actually also my phone background.

OMG how adorable and happy that pupper is. @Turin Turambar How old? 

12 minutes ago, Cairos said:

OMG how adorable and happy that pupper is. @Turin Turambar How old? 

He's 4 now. This picture is probably 2 years old.

Cute pup is cute and best return to thread!

 

Iunno what you said or where everyone else went @Turin Turambar, but for now I approve!

2 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

Zander, I asked you earlier if all of your game start things about me (wolfy for posting memes,etc...) was you just trolling me as a Wolf because "Turin is always a wolf" or if you were serious?

 

I asked for a reason not just related to you.

 

Oh lol I thought I had answered that I was carrying on from previous game jokingly.  Ofc everyone's a Wolf to me until they aren't but I've said my piece irt to you.  I feel you're playing different than last game (which normal I find sus) but I'm trying to determine if you're trying to approach eachother differently based on our awful reading eachother record like I am and really everyone else as well to maybe lesser extent.   Either way you haven't done anything yet that makes me wanna call you to the noise ATM fwiw.

55 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

My new happy post pic. This is actually also my phone background.

 

How can a doggie so cute have a owner so Wolfy?!?!?!    And obviously not referring to the amazing awesome Villagery Moddess Ithi Sedai!!!!!!

 

 

37 minutes ago, Cairos said:

OMG how adorable and happy that pupper is. @Turin Turambar How old? 

 

...... you randed Wolf in back to back games didn't you?!?!!!!!

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, Cass said:

Cute pup is cute and best return to thread!

 

Iunno what you said or where everyone else went @Turin Turambar, but for now I approve!

 

CassGOATEBFPMUSICTWINHYDRAFRAND ...I'm starting to worry about you sadface.gif

 

Please give me a take on the Lenlo me situation, not drawing it back again it's just really because it's the biggest event this far in the game, and everyoneshould have read it and shared opinions/have a take/thoughts.

 

Also Cass if you could and are busy please give me your takes on like at least 2-3 Villa leans and why and ,2-3 Wolf leans for you ATP please.

4 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Oh lol I thought I had answered that I was carrying on from previous game jokingly.  Ofc everyone's a Wolf to me until they aren't but I've said my piece irt to you.  I feel you're playing different than last game (which normal I find sus) but I'm trying to determine if you're trying to approach eachother differently based on our awful reading eachother record like I am and really everyone else as well to maybe lesser extent.   Either way you haven't done anything yet that makes me wanna call you to the noise ATM fwiw.

That's what I thought, which is why I didn't see how anyone could draw the conclusion that it was AI. You made a joke, I responded in similar vein. I considered it nothing to be seen here. Idk.

 

Yes, I'm playing different.  I did make a conscious decision to adjust my engagement level as far as going full on at people.  I have been  told in the past that I was too rough. When it lightly happened last game, even though I was being.mild for me since it was a game full of new players and returning players I decided to see if I could still play well without being so in people's faces.

/personaljourneyofdiscovery

2 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

That's what I thought, which is why I didn't see how anyone could draw the conclusion that it was AI. You made a joke, I responded in similar vein. I considered it nothing to be seen here. Idk.

 

Yes, I'm playing different.  I did make a conscious decision to adjust my engagement level as far as going full on at people.  I have been  told in the past that I was too rough. When it lightly happened last game, even though I was being.mild for me since it was a game full of new players and returning players I decided to see if I could still play well without being so in people's faces.

/personaljourneyofdiscovery

 

Change in playstyle to me at least tho I know I'm not the only one , as it's one of the things that us that use Meta tend to look at. And fair enough as I'm trying to as well. Fair enough me too and Fwiw you don't gotta hold back with me at least lololololol

@Turin Turambar

 

Give me your top 3 willing to lunch today ATP and top 3 not willing to lunch today ATP and why if you don't mind please?

FWIW current T-Z exchange looks ~good - glad I'm seeing it now and not still holding my breath on it from 17 pages ago if this is the first time you two have readdressed it... 

 

@Turin Turambar - Will the reason you asked besides asking Z be obvious by the time I'm caught up? You mention AI - if it's not that can you pls explain?

12 minutes ago, Cass said:

FWIW current T-Z exchange looks ~good - glad I'm seeing it now and not still holding my breath on it from 17 pages ago if this is the first time you two have readdressed it... 

 

@Turin Turambar - Will the reason you asked besides asking Z be obvious by the time I'm caught up? You mention AI - if it's not that can you pls explain?

I'm not sure if you will find it obvious still just say. It was due to Dice asking if I thought he should have been able to reasonably draw a verdict from our interactions.  I say no because it was just banter, and couldn't see any way it would be considered alignment  indicative.

@Zander? I see your post ❤️ Pls have patience, I'm old, tired, sore and mentally/physically slooooowww af rn - like reeeeeeeeeeeallly slooooooooowww - but I'll get there (hopefully).

 

# yourcallisimportant,butpleasehold

 

 

WRT 'Lenlo-you' situation - I'm up to pg 19... to that point I have been wondering if Lenlo was always as serious/hypervigilant/sensitive as I'm first-impressioning here. This is based on pretty much nothing but the way he reacted to what I see as jokes from Heavy and you. 

Not sure the joke reactions are AI. 

 

Spoiler

beyond my insta-Tinfoil

 

Have noted the reasons/responses he gave to my thoughts at the time, with hope that there's more to get feels on as things go forward.

 

All I can remember of past meta is that there was a general consensus he was hard to read - can't remember why, can remember that once he was Town and I 'got' it, can't remember what made it so. 

 

If noone else has commented on it, or seemed to try and figure him out at all since then.... then o.O

 

AAaaaand if you're talking about something else that happened after that, then see above and hope there's good hold music?

 

(I'll give impressions when I have caught up/as they change - nothing more conclusive as of where I'm at rn).

9 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

I'm not sure if you will find it obvious still just say. It was due to Dice asking if I thought he should have been able to reasonably draw a verdict from our interactions.  I say no because it was just banter, and couldn't see any way it would be considered alignment  indicative.

 

Not sure what you mean by 'still just say' (?) but Ta.

Was Dice's question AI for you/Did he push that he could draw an AI verdict on the interactions?

 

I don't think I'm up to that part yet, or if I am I've forgotten it - in any case I'll keep reading and see if anything pops out.

DL in 9 hours, right?

43 minutes ago, Zander? said:

@Turin Turambar

 

Give me your top 3 willing to lunch today ATP and top 3 not willing to lunch today ATP and why if you don't mind please?

Not willing first, cause I'm contrary like that.

1. Shad. I think his process is pure. I don't always understand what he says but I find myself nodding in agreement  most of the time.

2. Gud. I might be wrong, but I just want her to be town. Ithi should make her a siggy with a coat of many pockets. 

3. Heavy. I haven't gotten so much the off vibe I got from him last game. Maybe our calming down has helped him find him find his center. Some of his posts have been pretty good too.

 

Willing to lynch. (Not in order)

1. Zander Dice. That thing with our interactions is bugging me more and more. It feels like using his "special skill" to slide by taking a stance where it isn't warranted. Tbh, I don't really remember him reading me all that great. 

2. RTE.  The vig thing was bad.  The policy lynch thing was worse. The only positive thing I remember from him is his stopping any attempts at away Dice lynching from happening. 

3. Cairos.  Just not enough from him. I'm nowt really a meta guy, like at all, but I just saw him not really post many thoughts as mafia last game. I want to see more thoughts, take a stance.

 

I am leaning more towards you being town. 

12 hours ago, Zander? said:

It's actually Heavy that has the right understanding of how Metas used in at least DM.  Meta is the things, gameplay, posting way of doing things and approaching reads that a player has a tendency to do each time as each alignment.

 

Like example.  I've said earlier I haven't seen Dice make that real Dicey post that makes me go ya Dices prolly Town ATP.  It's habits each player has as a Villager and a Wolf that you pick through playing multiple games with.

 

I'm not caught up yet, but want to address this.  You don't have to explain how DM defines meta - I'm literally the longest standing mafia player on the site, heh.  I played here before the word was even used.  Now get off my lawn!  😉

 

But really, we're saying the same thing.  The acronym means what I said it means - DM has just tweaked it a little to mean "playstyle", but it's really more "playstyle that works for that person"...aka most effective tactic.

 

Tomato, tomahto, right?

4 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

Not sure what you mean by 'still just say' (?) but Ta.

Was Dice's question AI for you/Did he push that he could draw an AI verdict on the interactions?

 

I don't think I'm up to that part yet, or if I am I've forgotten it - in any case I'll keep reading and see if anything pops out.

It was supposed to say "so I'll just say".

 

T & O are not even near each other. Weird.

Spoiler

22 hours ago, Gudrean said:

Shad might be an amazing player but I'm just using my intuition powers atm to say he feels town, that might change. 

 

You Zander might be wolf, I'm not sure yet as I've only played with you as a townie so I need better reads. I WAS indeed reading YOU the person, not you the player. 

 

My first read on Verb was wolf but I really don't know him either so I'm gonna need a lot more stuffs to read.

 

Lenlo is a back and forth for me atp.

 

Turin so far seems town

 

Dice has same meta as me so it might interfere with my thingy

 

Cass is the bestest girl so I have her town for the time being

 

RTE seems more like boss for me so I'm leaning town leader vibes

 

Cairos feels the same as last game so far but that doesn't make him wolf

 

did I miss anyone?

 

Oh yeah Heavy - he is reading a little sus atm but not for any good reason, but he could be town as well

 

yeah yeah I know not very helpful - sawwy

 

Reads for today:

Cass - best girl - town - earlier posts seemed legit town

Spoiler

or just busy atm so no real read

Cairos - town - could the random.orgs be so cruel to throw him wolf twice in a row?

RTE - sus posts about my alignment and zander vig claim - maybe innocent mistake but..

Shad - feels real town, but...

Lenlo - thought he was wolf pretty quickly, maybe just that "this joke too far" claim but then some what felt like admissions?

Verb - was thinking wolf from his knowing I'm villagey but questioning anyway

Turin - seems legit town

Heavy - bringing good logics and so far clean feels

Dice - asking how we are the same made me think twice about whether he meant he knows i'm town and he's not???

Zander - pocket feels pretty darn towny - don't make me cry man!

 

so four possibles in my head but have to narrow done to 3

 

will vote in a little bit closer to time

 

@Cass, sorry. As to Dice's question.  I would say he was implying he would be able to say. Looking back on it, i am more troubled by it. Not sure if he was trying to say no one could discern anything,  or that he could but Len wouldn't.  Maybe its me reading something in that isnt there. It still bugs me.