1 hour ago, seph said:

Zander talked about this, but yea you were pressured. You were as well in the last game but you didn't feel the initial need to include everyone. You talked about those you had actual feelings about. These was a difference.
I also want to say Gud, I don't know what I am doing and every time I try to be a town leader, or case someone I get mislynched because explaining how I feel/ what I see isn't always easy to me.

Do me a favor. Post me anything relating to your posts that show you trying to solve this game, that shows you questioning anyone.
Your recaps are reposting a synopsis of the exact happenings. It comes off as their words and not yours, and you give only a small bit of info. Town- but reserve the right to change. And town but might not be AI or NON AI.

So show me some posts that you think show that you are town. I can give a example for everyone in this game. Even DPR, though I think he is faking 🙂

Just keep trying different things! If you ever want to get mislynched as a townie come hydra with me. We can just talk about the game, or I can sit in a game with you.
I by no means think I am good but I have read 20x the amount of mafia games than I have played. My goal is to still wolf like tom one day 😞

 

I alWAYS BURN COOKIES TO 😞

hahahah, yea... But that's what makes us special Z

 

 

Like some of sephs posts feel super good like what I recall from Town! Seph, this is one of those.  But there's some obvious super pockety posts as well that are equally Wolf pocketing me or Town! Seph excited to play with Town!Zander.  A lot of posts are seeing/agreeing with my points/takes/reads and some are the complete opposite.  It's making it super hard to get a bead on which it is for me lol.  You got your Day 1 pass I haven't sketches me YET to the point id revoke it but @ everyone if it's a Mislunch today especially if it's Turin and I'm dead tomorrow make sure to pay attention here.  He could be either atp.   I'm just asking myself is me wanting to keep playing the game with Seph is clouding my judgement at all ...FML LOLOLOLOL 

4 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

Villagiest Villager Ever

Zander didn't know, lol.

So if you lynch the guy I am trying to sway the lynch away from because he could be town and should not be a top 5 candidate for POE, you will look to me.
I am kinda boned either way he flips lol. Thanks for the death sentence....

1 hour ago, keyholder21 said:

 

I like this line of questioning, admittedly biased because it involves me and I think DPR's been sketch.  Brings up something that has been seemingly lost in the shuffle.

 

 

Oh, okay, quantifiable.  I'm town.

 

 

lol, same thought.

 

First bold - So, a shade on Gud with the second sentence, but still don't have anything?

 

I see Z already asked about the second bold. I wanted to highlight it though because it's especially odd to not have an opinion if you are posting as you're catching up. 

 

 

This is a really good post, imo, which is 😕 for me because I still think he's sketchy off of your other posts in the game.  It will make me revisit DPR for sure. Which I will do after I'm done writing 85 51 essays to catch up.

 

Top Bold is bs, dice.  You know as well as all the rest of us that are experienced that a LOT of the time wolves be slankin'.  Paying attention to when pop-ins happen and what is said in those pop-ins is important.

 

Bottom bold - but this screams townie to me? 

 

I agree here too.  Boo for me lol.

 

Maybe lolme but I'm liking most of Keys posts.  There's a couple things nagging me but I don't think/know if it's worth looking back and confirming yet tho.   I gave her a Day 1 pass (lol me if the two played I gave day 1's to are both Wolves lolololol.  But ya even if I don't always agree with her takes I can at least see and understand how she might take them that way.  Like I think someone mentioned forced and I think it was about Key Im not seeing it so id really like whoever said it again to quote me that answer and her original posts if ya don't mind please and thank you!

On 4/2/2025 at 7:29 AM, Zander? said:

 

Dude stop.  Claim it or just lolololol.  This is -EV if you're somehow Town because it's just pure WIFOM and also I don't know if the Roles HAVE to correlate with the Play or not but if not I'm not sure if this fits in this type of game or not but I'm not gonna try gaming IthiGOATess Moddess. I find Lie Director also a Fake Claim alot from what I recall.  Because it's easy for Wolves to claim and KNOW if a Villager is a Villager lolololol 

 

Very true. But to me it feels like a LOT of arguments/attention/people thinking he's wolfy. Like, Turin says wolfy things, yes, but does he dig in this much when wolf? To the point of making the only cleared person frustrated and wanting to vote him?? I'm genuinely asking, Z, because I don't remember his meta. I know I wouldn't want all that attention as wolf.

 

On 4/2/2025 at 7:30 AM, seph said:

 Vote Cass.
I caught up while coming into work, I really need a reread to address Turin/darthe more in depth. Darthe is easily my top townie atm, but I am unsure how to feel about Cass following like this.

From my light reading trying to stay caught up and eyes glazing over I still think Turrin and Darthe are T VS T Without Digging into all this further.

 

This looks townie to me because Cass wasn't really being discussed and I am also skeptical of her pop-ins.  I also think Turin/Darthe is T/T, but that is only based on how I feel about each of them separately. I will go back through when I'm done with catching up (if I ever can get caught up lol) and see if their back and forth way back when changes my mind.

 

On 4/2/2025 at 7:30 AM, DPR said:

@Turin Turambar from a benefit-of-the-doubt angle, I’ve watched you become increasingly frustrated. Now, if I understand your post correctly, you’re saying that you decided to try and launch a moderately complicated plan to lay a LD trap on d1 based on your guessing of the game setup? 
 

Wouldn’t it have been easier to just quote the title of this game and say “looks like everyone’s got a role. Just in case there’s an LD, everyone state that they’re not mafia.” 
 

Feels like that might have saved time and trouble. 

 

Fair points, but I think this is all NAI for DPR. From town angle, he's frustrated with Turin and feels it's wolfy for how he played.  From wolf angle, he can see Z is already frustrated at Turin so why not jump in and try to see if he can get Z to lead a Turin lynch?

 

Arguably every Advanced game could be started this way which would then likely lead to LD not ever being used, which would then cycle back around to not claiming it D1 and it being used again, rinse repeat 😄.  

 

On 4/2/2025 at 7:39 AM, seph said:

I forgot about this... The whole gaming the mod, gaming the game? and posting thoughts about who he thought might accompany is role is a little worrisome. I am just never a fan and haven't ever found use in it.
( I am lazy and hate this way of playing lol) Shoot from the HIP!!!!!
I need to read more past day one in his last game for wolf Turin tbh. I think have only played against him as wolf one or two times. I

I will be creeping around, just not posting until after work. Have fun 🙂

Sorry Ithi! thanks for taking pitty on me

 

Reads townie to me, off of vibes more than anything. 

 

On 4/2/2025 at 7:45 AM, Turin Turambar said:

Never said the roles correlate stop putting word in my mouth. It is irritating. I'm not claiming that I'm a LD. All I said is I'm town. 

 

🤔 Technically I suppose you didn't, but it feels like you did.

4 minutes ago, seph said:

So if you lynch the guy I am trying to sway the lynch away from because he could be town and should not be a top 5 candidate for POE, you will look to me.
I am kinda boned either way he flips lol. Thanks for the death sentence....

 

No I'm saying if I'm dead don't just sheep my day 1 Town read on you especially if we mislunch today and moreso if it's Turin.   You have to understand why I'm a little concerned right???  Lolololol. You're not today anyways and like I said Turins flip starts making me look down my other world view if Town.   

Just now, Zander? said:

 

No I'm saying if I'm dead don't just sheep my day 1 Town read on you especially if we mislunch today and moreso if it's Turin.   You have to understand why I'm a little concerned right???  Lolololol. You're not today anyways and like I said Turins flip starts making me look down my other world view if Town.   

IS this who you're set to lynch today?

 

Official Vote Count

 

DARTHE - 1 (Turin)

TURIN - 3  (Cass, Zander, DPR)

CASS - 1 (Darthe)

DPR- 1 (Seph)

 

Not Voting: Gudrean, Hallia, Key, Verbal, Dice

 

6 votes required for a Majority.

 

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1 hour ago, Verbal32 said:

 

And this is the 2nd thing for me - I don't like this.  Thinking anybody that has a different POV than you is just likely to be scum is super rigid thinking.  Maybe it works for you, but it rubs me the wrong way.  Again, just my POV here.

 

Giggity 

1 hour ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Is this lolcatting, or?

 

I haven't seen the play, so if this is some inside joke....it's meh.

 

Lol I asked if Turin was lollcatting earlier too lololololol 

1 hour ago, Turin Turambar said:

😆

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But seriously,  #saddestfaceever

Verb, are you town?

 

You realize if you are actually Town and LD you've completely made your claim unbelievable and unacceptable right?  Im just assuming you're basically lollcatting atp because I can't fathom an actual Villager doing any of multiple things let alone every single one of them lololololol 

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

You realize if you are actually Town and LD you've completely made your claim unbelievable and unacceptable right?  Im just assuming you're basically lollcatting atp because I can't fathom an actual Villager doing any of multiple things let alone every single one of them lololololol 

If Turin is actually a wolf, I feel like it might clear dpr. I don't know If I can handle groveling for forgiveness lmao.
Anyways, back to my tunnel.

47 minutes ago, seph said:

Imagine wanting to vote Turin when he hard claimed george washington.
DO YOU THINK THAT CHARACTER IS NOT IN THIS GAME???? 

lolol if ithi made it a fake claim though.

 

Sadface.gif trying to decide if you or His is more pro Turin LOLOLOLOL 

Just now, Zander? said:

 

Sadface.gif trying to decide if you or His is more pro Turin LOLOLOLOL 

You or Gud

1 minute ago, seph said:

If Turin is actually a wolf, I feel like it might clear dpr. I don't know If I can handle groveling for forgiveness lmao.
Anyways, back to my tunnel.

Things that won't happen for 400, Alex.

1 hour ago, seph said:

Zander talked about this, but yea you were pressured. You were as well in the last game but you didn't feel the initial need to include everyone. You talked about those you had actual feelings about. These was a difference.
I also want to say Gud, I don't know what I am doing and every time I try to be a town leader, or case someone I get mislynched because explaining how I feel/ what I see isn't always easy to me.

Do me a favor. Post me anything relating to your posts that show you trying to solve this game, that shows you questioning anyone.
Your recaps are reposting a synopsis of the exact happenings. It comes off as their words and not yours, and you give only a small bit of info. Town- but reserve the right to change. And town but might not be AI or NON AI.

So show me some posts that you think show that you are town. I can give a example for everyone in this game. Even DPR, though I think he is faking 🙂

Just keep trying different things! If you ever want to get mislynched as a townie come hydra with me. We can just talk about the game, or I can sit in a game with you.
I by no means think I am good but I have read 20x the amount of mafia games than I have played. My goal is to still wolf like tom one day 😞

 

I alWAYS BURN COOKIES TO 😞

hahahah, yea... But that's what makes us special Z

 

Posted March 13

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Reads for today:

Cass - best girl - town - earlier posts seemed legit town

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Cairos - town - could the random.orgs be so cruel to throw him wolf twice in a row?

RTE - sus posts about my alignment and zander vig claim - maybe innocent mistake but..

Shad - feels real town, but...

Lenlo - thought he was wolf pretty quickly, maybe just that "this joke too far" claim but then some what felt like admissions?

Verb - was thinking wolf from his knowing I'm villagey but questioning anyway

Turin - seems legit town

Heavy - bringing good logics and so far clean feels

Dice - asking how we are the same made me think twice about whether he meant he knows i'm town and he's not???

Zander - pocket feels pretty darn towny - don't make me cry man!

 

so four possibles in my head but have to narrow done to 3

 

will vote in a little bit closer to time

 

In reference to me not listing everyone her is a post from my 2nd game

 

2nd bold above - no! I can't because I haven't yet. Not comfortable with this action yet. When I feel I'm on to something I will ask questions and try to solve but it's the longest D1 ever and I've already said I think everyone is town so far. 

Thanks Gud, I just went and found your initial reads for both games and didn't even make it to that post. Those reads look more opinionated but I definitely concede that point. I will drop this all until day 2 after this last question so hunt some wolves for me will ya?

Thought on me atp?

I guess you gave a list and thoughts not to long ago, more so thoughts on my dpr interactions?
Am I just tunneling?

21 minutes ago, keyholder21 said:

 

Very true. But to me it feels like a LOT of arguments/attention/people thinking he's wolfy. Like, Turin says wolfy things, yes, but does he dig in this much when wolf? To the point of making the only cleared person frustrated and wanting to vote him?? I'm genuinely asking, Z, because I don't remember his meta. I know I wouldn't want all that attention as wolf.

 

 

This looks townie to me because Cass wasn't really being discussed and I am also skeptical of her pop-ins.  I also think Turin/Darthe is T/T, but that is only based on how I feel about each of them separately. I will go back through when I'm done with catching up (if I ever can get caught up lol) and see if their back and forth way back when changes my mind.

 

 

Fair points, but I think this is all NAI for DPR. From town angle, he's frustrated with Turin and feels it's wolfy for how he played.  From wolf angle, he can see Z is already frustrated at Turin so why not jump in and try to see if he can get Z to lead a Turin lynch?

 

Arguably every Advanced game could be started this way which would then likely lead to LD not ever being used, which would then cycle back around to not claiming it D1 and it being used again, rinse repeat 😄.  

 

 

Reads townie to me, off of vibes more than anything. 

 

🤔 Technically I suppose you didn't, but it feels like you did.

My vote on Turin is based simply on the fact that he has been WAY too emotional about the game and spread WIFOM like confetti on New Year’s Eve. Regardless of how he plays, he’s been in enough games to know it’s bad for the Town - look how much time we’ve already had to spend discussing it. 
 

Im not in favor of meta replacing the obvious. 

3 minutes ago, seph said:

Thanks Gud, I just went and found your initial reads for both games and didn't even make it to that post. Those reads look more opinionated but I definitely concede that point. I will drop this all until day 2 after this last question so hunt some wolves for me will ya?

Thought on me atp?

you feel town to me atp

15 minutes ago, seph said:

If Turin is actually a wolf, I feel like it might clear dpr. I don't know If I can handle groveling for forgiveness lmao.
Anyways, back to my tunnel.

Get used to disappointment

3 minutes ago, seph said:

I guess you gave a list and thoughts not to long ago, more so thoughts on my dpr interactions?
Am I just tunneling?

I can go back and do a more thorough look at your interactions with DPR if you would like?

It's fine, I am not that picky atm. I have bugged you for info all d1. 

10 minutes ago, DPR said:

My vote on Turin is based simply on the fact that he has been WAY too emotional about the game and spread WIFOM like confetti on New Year’s Eve. Regardless of how he plays, he’s been in enough games to know it’s bad for the Town - look how much time we’ve already had to spend discussing it. 
 

Im not in favor of meta replacing the obvious. 

Lolololololololol

Oh noes!! We can't possibly multi task. This screams you know I'm not gonna flip mafia and your doing pre damage control.