dang it, I forgot to add my comment about Seph in that last post.  Underlined, re: Seph, But what about all the rests of his posts, or his reads?  I get that he said that and it is okay a scumtell for you, but what about the content of what was actually said?  This sounds like you are just contributing *something* for the sake of contributing.

15 hours ago, DPR said:

The rest of my reads:

 

@Darthe is all over the place playing the provocateur. He's changed his vote more than anyone else and admittedly pushed multiple trains. I still have no idea what his stream-of-conscious post was about and I'd love for him to explain it. It's a little early to call WolfDarthe or TownDarthe, but I'm not a big fan of his coming out of the gate strong the way he has. I called him out for trying to assume early leadership and I see him fill-flopping votes more than making cases or building a core. 

 

@seph is clearly obsessed with pirates. I'm sure I'll be going point by point with him later, but it seems avoidable if he can see himself as tunneling and not actually having a point.

 

@Gudrean It's my first game with Gud and her third game. Multiple players that have played with her before are suspicious of her, so it would be counterproductive to not listen to them. I need to reread her posts because there was something she said in the last 24 hours that made me wonder how she knew it, but I need to find it. It wasn't damning, just subtle, but it stuck out to me. 

 

@keyholder21 and @Hallia have both been fairly inactive. I've seen posts from both that I *felt* like were posts for the sake of posting moreso than actual content. But, I do also understand that it's d1, that the post count has been a PITA to keep up with (looking at you Turin) and that they may very well kick into gear later in the game. Because this is based on a *feeling* I will transcribe my thoughts into Spanish, Egyptian Hieroglyphs and Interpretive Dance versions for dice in case he needs those lol.

 

@Verbal32 and @dicetosser1 are both doig what they normally do. Low activity because of work is nothing new for them. They'll be easier to read on d2 and d3. 

 

@Cass So far she has taken up the least amount of my thinking this game. I don't love some of her posts, but whatevs, d1, etc. Her following Darthe's vote on Turin bothered me because it came directly after his weird post, as if she understood what he was saying. She didn't give reasons or info, just hopped on that train. That bugged me. 

 

At this point, I'm looking to Zander more than anyone else for his reactions. That's what I got.  

 

 

 

I know I already posted in response to darthe, but as I came back to page 50 to continue, it struck me that this is the third time DPR has linked me and Hallia together in regards to leads.  I don't feel like mine and Hallia's activity is AT all on par with each other in this thread so this is a weird linkage, especially to make more than once.  I want to pull quotes from Hally and analyze but she's had what like maybe 15 extremely short posts? Maybe I'm too far in my own head, but like no one else has really questioned my activity/involvement and I've seen questions about Hally from others IIRC so why put us together as inactive? Cass has had less activity than me so why not link HER and Hally? 

 

 

15 hours ago, Verbal32 said:

DARTHE - 1 (Turin)

TURIN - 3  (Cass, Zander, DPR)

CASS - 2 (Seph, Darthe)

 

Can't vote Cass as I've explained, and she & the IC are voting Turin along with DPR, who I'm currently fine with.  Would vote Darthe (as he's my bottom 2), but Turin is voting him, which is weird based on other wagons.

 

I'm not confident here.

 

I'm having trouble seeing how someone with your reads wouldn't look into Turin more rather be "not confident".  If the town IC and one person that I think two wolves are voting for and one person I'm fine with is on a wagon, would that not be pretty convincing? At least convincing enough to want to read up on that person yourself?

 

 

14 hours ago, seph said:

The bold here... lol.

The obsession continues.

Follow the zander here is the easiest out. And this post rubs me the wrong way...

Look at my new siggy! 

 

Verbal emerges as a possible wolf?? I have 0 idea how someone views darthe as a wolf this game man. 

He might be all over the place but it isn't random and is poking in different directions, getting reactions, giving thoughts. If he is killed it gives so much info to the town. Besides Turin he hasn't been creating chaos, he isn't trying to lead with authority, he is exploring.

 

First bold - to be fair, I didn't take that from DPR's statement about Zander. I do think it's NAI though now that you pointed it out.  Of course we're all looking at Zander.  It's an easy "oh look guys, I'm totally town" statement.

 

 

14 hours ago, Verbal32 said:

 

See, here's my issue.  You already said one thing that is a scumtell (for me), and now you're doing another in response to my post.  Calling me scum because I disagreed and had a different viewpoint.  So instead of "hey, maybe he's just wrong", you went straight to "wolf".  Only sithscum deal in absolutes, my man.

 

Help me understand why that doesn't look bad.

 

On one hand eh I guess I can see getting upset over someone calling you a wolf for your statement. On the other, he said possible, not that you definitely were. I am aware this is colored by the fact that I have a slight town read on Seph rn. 

 

14 hours ago, seph said:

I said something was a scumtell for you, I legit don't remember that?
I more or less think you might be scum for the drastic differences in our views of this game. I feel like this has been very Town Driven. AKA hard for the wolves to intervene.
I also called you a possible wolf for it. You are in my POE so I appreciate the interaction.
What do you disagree with when it comes to my explanation of darthe, I felt you were misrepresenting him and saying LOL DARTHE. He is everywhere....
I do not see this in the slightest

Once again I agree with a lot of this, with the caveat that I'm pretty sure there is one (lately) active wolf. 

 

Bold - this would be a odd statement to say as wolf, imo.

 

Back and forth between Seph and DPR.  Bold - good point and excellent advice.  As for the rest of it, I read it differently 🙅‍♀️ and already stated how I'd seen it.

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15 hours ago, DPR said:

Alternatively, paying attention the only mod-confirmed townie can be seen as a very logical thing to do.

 

It’s d1. Anyone could be a wolf. But nobody has suggested that Zander is the final word - not even Zander. 

 

Your argument sounds like “don’t follow Zander.” You are either trying to diminish him, which is very bad, or you are twisting my words. Which is also very bad. What a weird thing to suggest that players not pay attention to MC town? 

 

 

15 hours ago, seph said:

Isn't this like WIFOM? I donno how exactly that applies like others have been saying but it's how I read it. This is the obvious thing to do but posting about it like you did reads as if you don't want to take responsibility for the outcomes of what happens.
Like if we lynch Turin and he flips town you can just go LOL thanks Zander.

 

15 hours ago, DPR said:

This is a pretty gross misinterpretation of what I said. You’re just flailing around now and not making any sense. 

 

15 hours ago, Gudrean said:

 

I'm sorry if it came off as catty @keyholder21 there's so much autocorrect in the game that I have a hard time making out the meaning.  It was not meant to be in any case. Yes, I have used the profiles of each player for my recaps so it's def. missing some important reference. I can't read y'all on your sussing of each other so I was working with tone of posts only. I hope to get some better logic flowing D2 and beyond.

The bolded above I have to agree has also crossed my mind as well. 

 

We used to have a feature where we could see all the posts a specific person made in the thread.  That was awesome.

 

I feel meh about this post irt T/W.  Like I can see how it would fit both sides. Even the sentence which is about my pondering of a Cass/DPR team.  If she's W then it's advantageous of her to agree since I already said earlier that I don't see her and Cass on a team.

 

14 hours ago, Verbal32 said:

 

My bad, I think I worded that poorly.  You said something that I think is a scumtell - that's what I was saying.

 

Okay, but what about what else is going on in the thread?? 

 

14 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

Answered like a true townie. No quibble, just here ya go. Thanks Key.

 

Let me know if you get it when you get there. So far DPR and Verbal32 don't. 

 

Pretty sure I got it when I got there?

 

14 hours ago, DPR said:

No WIFOM. I made a clear and concise post on everyone in the game and how I see things. 
 

I also don’t buy you backpedaling here - you’re flip-flopping again. Not a good look. 
 

Your point about blaming Zander for things is especially cringey. It misrepresents me and also belittles everyone else as if they’d fall for that. No bueno. 

 

I don't hate this, but I didn't get backpedaling?

 

14 hours ago, seph said:

Explaining my statement was not backpeddling. The post did not look good. We can have a lynch off and make everyone decide between me and you? 🙂
If you know my town game I have literally 0 care for dying lololol.
Lets do it.
Vote: DPR

 

I don't hate the vote, but I do hate the bold.

 

But you should care about dying, imo?? Like if you're town that's a townie we just lost??

 

14 hours ago, DPR said:

This is the least-townie post you’ve made  so far. 
 

Everyone is quite capable of voting for whoever they want. 
 

If you have a case, lay it out and stop wasting everyone’s time. 

 

Agreed.

 

14 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Scums going to have fake claims and Ithi told me we didn't have know the source material so I'm taking any and all name claims with a grain of salt.

 

Did fake claims become the norm when I was gone?  Why is it assumed there will be fake claims?  Again, genuinely asking.

 

 

13 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Bold:  wait what?!?!?!  Being all over the place is a staple of Darthe Mafia he'll be more in places he seems necessary as either alignment but all over the place is pretty on par from what I recall .  I don't mean like blindly or anything he just pokes and prods everywhere to shake stuff loose for his reads/pushes or Scum Darthe plans.  Don't think Im misremembering this?

 

But is WolfDarthe as messy as he has been?  That's kinda more what I'm going on for my read.  I don't remember him being like that. lolme if he is scum.

 

13 hours ago, DPR said:

Everyone thinks they’re at Burger King…

 

Turin/Darthe/Seph are currently highest on my wolf list. I’ve already posted why. 
 

Key/Halli/ Cass have been leaning wolf for me but I see Key leveling out, so park her closer to null. 
 

Verb/dice/Gud are null with the caveat that it’s d1 and all three could go either way for reasons I’ve already stated. 
 

 

 

Bold - Please explain, DPR.

 

The rest does line up with what DPR said earlier.

 

....we have wildly different perspectives on the game.

 

13 hours ago, seph said:

Gud, Can you dig up my last post directed at you?
I am curious of your thoughts regarding yourself lol

 

What. How is this remotely helpful to this game rn?

 

13 hours ago, DPR said:

My vote on Turin is based simply on the fact that he has been WAY too emotional about the game and spread WIFOM like confetti on New Year’s Eve. Regardless of how he plays, he’s been in enough games to know it’s bad for the Town - look how much time we’ve already had to spend discussing it. 
 

Im not in favor of meta replacing the obvious. 

 

I do think Turin is town, but this is a good point regardless.  We've talked about him most of the day and that's likely to continue for future days unless there is a flip that just massively blows everything up. That being said, I don't want to lynch someone I feel is town because any loss of town is -ev to me.

Official Vote Count

 

TURIN - 4  (Cass, Zander, DPR, Dice)

CASS - 1 (Darthe)

DPR- 2 (Hallia, Turin)

 

Not Voting: Gudrean, Key, Verbal, Seph

 

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4 minutes ago, keyholder21 said:

 

Back and forth between Seph and DPR.  Bold - good point and excellent advice.  As for the rest of it, I read it differently 🙅‍♀️ and already stated how I'd seen it.

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We used to have a feature where we could see all the posts a specific person made in the thread.  That was awesome.

 

I feel meh about this post irt T/W.  Like I can see how it would fit both sides. Even the sentence which is about my pondering of a Cass/DPR team.  If she's W then it's advantageous of her to agree since I already said earlier that I don't see her and Cass on a team.

 

 

Okay, but what about what else is going on in the thread?? 

 

 

Pretty sure I got it when I got there?

 

 

I don't hate this, but I didn't get backpedaling?

 

 

I don't hate the vote, but I do hate the bold.

 

But you should care about dying, imo?? Like if you're town that's a townie we just lost??

 

 

Agreed.

 

 

Did fake claims become the norm when I was gone?  Why is it assumed there will be fake claims?  Again, genuinely asking.

 

 

 

But is WolfDarthe as messy as he has been?  That's kinda more what I'm going on for my read.  I don't remember him being like that. lolme if he is scum.

 

 

Bold - Please explain, DPR.

 

The rest does line up with what DPR said earlier.

 

....we have wildly different perspectives on the game.

 

 

What. How is this remotely helpful to this game rn?

 

 

I do think Turin is town, but this is a good point regardless.  We've talked about him most of the day and that's likely to continue for future days unless there is a flip that just massively blows everything up. That being said, I don't want to lynch someone I feel is town because any loss of town is -ev to me.

 

I completely disagree irt Turin obviously he  implied LD and LD is the easiest and common fake claim as Mafia KNOW if you're Town or Not...he started doing the LD stick then said nope he didn't confirm/.claim it and said/implied he wasn't LD left it alone for a little then came back with it after more people sussed him for it iirc.  I don't even buy frustrated Towny because how could you be after all that WINFOMING and clutter and implied claiming then disputing it and saying nope than picking the stick back up then claiming Washington and federalist then saying NOPE didn't claim that then go back to. Then talk about mechanics all game, makes a quote himself about gaming the Mod and then proceeded to do just that. Then clings to flavor important and needed discussion after told by me I asked Ithi and she said knowing the material wasn't required to play then base.then continue with it and claim people lied and are wrong etc for questioning it?!??!

 

I'm sorry I don't see a Villager doing that at all.  And if somehow he is imma look real hard at everyone saying he was and after condemning himself he's made it super easy for a wolves to jump on him and in the same breath make Townies who said he was Town looking like Scum for somehow seeing through all that and not coming to the obvious IMHO conclusion he's Wolf because no villager ever would do that.  No occums razor and common sense say lunch the Wolfiest player and odds are they're Wolves 

Okay, I tried guys, I tried but it's just about 1am here and I have to be up in 5 hours and I'm falling asleep in between gathering quotes.  I will be back in like 7 hours to actually finish and post reads and vote and all that.  I should be around all day with maybe minor interruptions, but nothing major on my schedule.

14 hours and 38 minutes till end of Day 1

I know it's getting towards the end of Day, but things seem to be getting a bit sharp and pointy in the Thread at times.

9 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

You know it's a bad vote but your making it anyway. 

I never lied. You are slandering me with this garbage. I NEVER SAID I WASN'T WASHINGTON. I DID SAY AT ONE POINT THAT I WASN'T SAYING I WAS WASHINGTON.  THE FIRST IS A DENIAL, THE SECOND JUST NOT A CONFIRMATION. I ALSO NEVER SAID THAT I WAS AN LD. I MERELY SAID THAT IN THIS CLOSED SETUP GAME IT WAS A POSSIBILITY.  I THEN SUGGESTED THAT EVEN THIS POSSIBILITY WAS A POSITIVE FOR TOWN BECAUSE IT MIGHT CAUSE MAFIA TO PAUSE BEFORE STATING CLEARLY THEY ARE TOWN.

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I asked Darthe who replied after a few prods but didn't seem to want to say it.

I asked DPR, who replied fairly quickly but also didn't seem thrilled. 

I didn't have to ask Key. She saw part of my talking to Zander, figured it out and replied like a champ (she is also the only one who clearly did the recommended reading).

Gud may have understood  but in any case she gave an im town directly.

I asked you and Verb but I don't think either if you have replied. I really don't understand how if you are town it could be bad for you to say your town. Even if you don't trust me, why make the potential  LD claim in order to get info?

SHOW ME WHERE I LIED OR APOLOGISE. 

Theme is anything that is part of the tapestry of the game. I posted a specific message that should echo with you if you are town.

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t was a fairly obvious thing. I started with Zander because he was the only confirmed townie,  so I thought it would resonate. Unfortunately,  he is too deep in his Turin tunnel to listen. That's why I was frustrated. I stepped back because I am trying to be kinder gentler Turin. 

I did mention  fake claims. I think the mafia will have them. If you choose to not believe that I'm George Washington I suppose fair enough. If your really town you should know the rest of what I claimed was true. Also,  your memory is faulty because I have sorted loads of character claims. I get run up a lot and have had to do it my fair share.

AGAIN,  PROVE WHERE I LIED. IT DOESN'T EXIST.

The iykyk is completely due to the message being sent to townies. If you didn't get the message, that might be on you. 

 

I asked Zander this before,  I'll ask you now. Who is "the town"? Whose side? 

 

Now it's late again. Ithi is asleep  and I have to start my day in less than 5 hours so bid you good night sir.

 

Pretending for a minute I thought you were Town....how would anyone know what you actually claimed?!??!?!?!  According to your own words one was a denial and the other just wasn't a confirmation?!?!?!!!   Like seriously man I just don't even know what else to say I even tried telling you at one point what you could do to likely convince me to at least back off and maybe give you more time but you doubled down...again.  I just put together how a Village thinks this play would be +EV for Town.  I get more caught Wolf trying whatever to get off the noose which I can respect than I do getting frustrated Towny.    I'm also pretty sure you said federalist wasn't your PR and that you weren't going to share it iirc?  

8 hours ago, Darthe said:

When did you get so salty?  I haven’t been here in two days and you’re still hung up on my early WIM like it was a bad thing?

He's salty because he doesn't get it. OR maybe he understands, but is feeling left out.

Just now, Zander? said:

 

Pretending for a minute I thought you were Town....how would anyone know what you actually claimed?!??!?!?!  According to your own words one was a denial and the other just wasn't a confirmation?!?!?!!!   Like seriously man I just don't even know what else to say I even tried telling you at one point what you could do to likely convince me to at least back off and maybe give you more time but you doubled down...again.  I just can't put together how a Villager thinks this play would be +EV for Town.  I get more caught Wolf trying whatever to get off the noose which I can respect than I do getting frustrated Towny.    I'm also pretty sure you said federalist wasn't your PR and that you weren't going to share it iirc?  

 

Sorry not supposed to do a lot of fix posts but this is one I will because I'm trying to say something here .  Can't put together was what it was supposed say.

8 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

I suggest you pull your head in and stop screaming at me. Like right now.

 

you say you said you werent saying you were Washington and expect that someone else wont take that as you saying you arnt Washington? seriously? 

 

And i didnt say you SAID you were LD, I said youve been representing that you are. With all the song and dance youve been doing about it how else should i characterize it?

 

Lied? How about the fact you said you werent going to claim. But you did and in a weird spot. Try telling me otherwise? As for softing roles before? i believe i said Its not something i remember you doing.

 

 

 

Come at me bro. Stop telling people what to do. People can.play how they want. If the modess has a problem,  she will handle it.

 

I expect people to read what I actually say and not what they think or want me to have said. Seriously, is that hard?

 

Again, I NEVER said or even intimated that I was the LD. I never even stated that I knew factually there was one in the game. What I did was speculate that in this closed setup game it was a possibility AND that it was a positive for the Town because it potentially would cause mafia to balk at declaring themselves town in conversations. They might shy away from it which could lead to awkwardness on their part. I still don't see how any townie would find that to be a problem. If your town, it doesn't affect you in the slightest. It's a tool to help town. I wanna with with the town, so I'm gonna use every tool in my toolbox. Which was also the reason for the message. Apparently people didn't see it or whatever.  I'm past that. 

Lied about not claiming? That's a joke, right? You basically dared me. I still won't role claim so if your fishing for that ...

 

And again, I've soft claimed characters many times. 

 

12 hours and 10 minutes till end of Day 1

12 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Come at me bro. Stop telling people what to do. People can.play how they want. If the modess has a problem,  she will handle it.

 

 

 

 

I dont give a DAMN whether the mod has a problem with it or not. I have a problem with being spoken to like that. And im telling you not to do it.

 

 

6 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Thing is you you hinted at/implied a boatload of different things then say well I didn't say I was actually them?!????  Dude it's nothing but WIFOM in any world you're a Villager here hopefully this will teach you never to do this again.  You doubled down on a bunch of stuff you had a chance to try and clarify or drop but nope kept it up.  Now I at least and others too either legitimately don't believe you (if you're a Wolf or you made it 100% easy for a Wolf to jump on you and make it near impossible to clean which are Wolves that did so provided you are Town.  Like I don't wanna sound mean here but if you're somehow a Villager and I cannot see any world you are playing this way, you need to please never do this again.  You've created so much confusion, discord, WINFOM ITT it's impossible for me and likely others who are actually Town to ever reevaluate or be able to come to a different conclusion.  In over 100 Plus Mafia I've never seen a Town player do this .  So occums razor and common sense state you have to be a Wolf.

Don't be lazy. Ask one more question. In any world of knowing me, do I open myself up to this much smoke on D1 as a wolf? I didn't have to do any of it. Why do it as town? First, if I could have gotten YOU, THE INNOCENT CHILD, to understand and lead, there was a chance to possibly lock the game. I didn't realise how unreceptive you would be and I triggered you (tbh, I thought it a pretty simple thing), so.that was a mistake. 

Second, the LD thing, what harm does it actually do? Townies see the benefits immediately and roll with it. Mafia resists and howls "mechanics". That's the benefit even if the LD doesn't even exist in the game. Think how much easier their job got to look and check their suspects if someone else beat the statements out of everyone? They don't have to hint. They can hang back in the shadows and do their job. How does that hurt town? I think you let mafia take control of the narrative. If you let them lynch me, hopefully you get your head on straight and look at the possibilities.

6 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Nope in lunching who I think the Wolfiest people are, like Mafia is supposed to be lol.  Sure can be wrong but not clearing anyone for freaking out or pretending to depending on whichever it is.

I'm not freaking out. Do what you think you need to do. Understand I will being LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLing all through the dead thread.

7 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

I dont give a DAMN whether the mod has a problem with it or not.

 

I have already advised I would like this Thread to calm it down a bit.

 

Let's take a step back and say that CAPS LOCK is for emphasis and is not shouting.

 

Let's try not to wind each other up lol

 

Let's agree that people have different opinions about who is Town and who is not.

 

Let's agree that if people are unhappy about being voted they are allowed to express that.

 

Let's say that I do give a damn about the tone of the Thread and I'd like it to be respectful disagreement and not give me an ulcer.

 

Thank you.

Edited April 4Apr 4 by Ithillian Turambar

That goes out to everyone BTW.

 

Waking up to all you grumpy peoples

1 minute ago, Turin Turambar said:

Don't be lazy. Ask one more question. In any world of knowing me, do I open myself up to this much smoke on D1 as a wolf? I didn't have to do any of it. Why do it as town? First, if I could have gotten YOU, THE INNOCENT CHILD, to understand and lead, there was a chance to possibly lock the game. I didn't realise how unreceptive you would be and I triggered you (tbh, I thought it a pretty simple thing), so.that was a mistake. 

Second, the LD thing, what harm does it actually do? Townies see the benefits immediately and roll with it. Mafia resists and howls "mechanics". That's the benefit even if the LD doesn't even exist in the game. Think how much easier their job got to look and check their suspects if someone else beat the statements out of everyone? They don't have to hint. They can hang back in the shadows and do their job. How does that hurt town? I think you let mafia take control of the narrative. If you let them lynch me, hopefully you get your head on straight and look at the possibilities.

 

I think you got caught like last time day 1 but you know I said after last game I'm not backing off again trying to tip toe around pushing incorrectly I do better when I stick to my Gut.  Am I gonna be wrong yes a fair but but so is everyone else I just do it more spectacularly lolololol.

 

No you pushed at me BEFORE I revealed and knew you had to back off so you started with the whole I hate when people call themselves the most villager it's sus but calling yourself just a villager is fine semantics talk while calling yourself a Village THAN came the whole LD debacle then the whole character claim didn't claim but actually did claim character but after creating a metric ton of WINFOMing proceed to pick back up the LD stick asking everyone to say they're town which at the beginning of the game you said you sussed people for like the part of your initial move on me before i got mod cleared.  And on TOP you refuse to claim knowing that normally might look ok but not in in an advanced game.  So no homie right or wrong I'll not accept blame for this one sorry bro.  You at least know I'm Town and this is how I truly feel.  

26 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

If the modess has a problem,  she will handle it.

I'm handling it. Please read the above post.

1 minute ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

I'm handling it. Please read the above post.

Sorry. This is why nicer Turin is a goal.

9 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

I have already advised I would like this Thread to calm it down a bit.

 

Let's take a step back and say that CAPS LOCK is for emphasis and is not shouting.

 

Let's try not to wind each other up lol

 

Let's agree that people have different opinions about who is Town and who is not.

 

Let's agree that if people are unhappy about being voted they are allowed to express that.

 

Let's say that I do give a damn about the tone of the Thread and I'd like it to be respectful disagreement and not give me an ulcer.

 

Thank you.

 

ITHIGOATESS MODDESS like always is correct and right and we shall obey!!!!  ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

 

 

 

It's ok Ithi I'll take care of these hooligan's for you...

 

 

 

*Steps into the ring and proceeds to drop "The Final Boss's Elbows on Eve

rybody"