besides, I care too much about the characters to quit now. No matter how pissed off and miserable it makes me feel

Thats the spirit! :)

And Mogheiden manipulated Nynaeve.

 

Yay, I was hoping she'd actually do something :3

keep on hoping dude

And Rand can casually shield two experienced Aes Sedai linked together. ... (grinds teeth)

 

Just what I needed to read after a stressful day

 

Of course he can. Even the strongest Aes Sedai are weak compared to the strength of Age of Legends channelers like Rand. Every Forsaken could have done the same.

And Rand can casually shield two experienced Aes Sedai linked together. ... (grinds teeth)

 

Just what I needed to read after a stressful day

 

Of course he can. Even the strongest Aes Sedai are weak compared to the strength of Age of Legends channelers like Rand. Every Forsaken could have done the same.

 

Sigh. I know. I'm not stupid. I know WHY something happens most of the time... doesn't mean I have to like it

God I hope something bad happens to Rand soon -____-

 

Like seriously, it would bring mme so much joy (depending on how it happens of course)

Well, it depends on what you call bad...

(sarcasm) You people are MASTERS of making this series sound appealing. Y'know that? :P XD

Sigh, My frined says that a battle is coming up soon

 

... I hope I like it :(

 

heh, not like you people ever seem to do anything but disuade me. I wonder, do you do stuff like that on purpose? I'm very fragile.

 

I'm too invested in this series to quit, no matter how much I'm not enjoying it. So I'd appreciate it if someone besides my friend could at least try to help me be optimistic.

 

... Sorry, I'm just really miserable right now.

Sorry, it just stuns me sometimes.

 

You're the FANS, aren't you? The people who like this series. You'd think you more than anyone would want to see me enjoying myself while I read

You're on LOC still, right?

 

From what you describe as things you like, I think you will be pretty satisfied with some of the upcoming developments. Bad things do happen to Rand in this book, and while obviously the bad guys don't triumph, there are long-lasting effects from what happens here.

Everyone here really likes the series, but we are also big critics :P

 

I do want you to enjoy the books, but if you can't seem to enjoy the moments we do in the books then it doesn't really work out Glad you keep reading though, there will be epic moments that you will enjoy and they will come sooner than you think

Actually, I think one of my coping mechanisms is remembering that the Forsaken are only tools of the Dark One, and most of the things they do are according to his plans. Including the way some of them bite the dust. The Dark One actually seems pretty clever (I dearly HOPE that he's clever)

 

The thing people don't seem to get is, I don't want the bad guys to WIN all the time. I want them to be a genuine threat and a sizable challenge. That includes gaining some victories every now and then but most of the time it's just making sure that the antagonists are decent obstacles for the hero

Like, I LOVED Ishamael, but people are also calling him a hack. But then my friend calls him a competent villain (he loves almost everything about this series but the romance)

 

I don't know who to trust

The DO is actually really stupid..

Trust the taint

Ishamael is epic *nods*

Dude I think the biggest problem is that you are surrounded by spoilers (here on Dm or IRL), so that sorta spoils it. I joined DM after my first read(and a half) and I still got a lot of new facts and stuff, and you are a bit weird cuz you don't like mat :shrug:

 

 

Yeah, you are indeed spoiling the story for yourself. All the surprises that make the series great are gone then.

... I actually thought he came off as intelligent :(

 

Let the lord of Chaos rule and all that

 

Oh, is it the "Trying to turn Rand evil" thing? I don't consider trying to do that as being all that stupid. Not necessarily anyway

I actually don't find the DO that intelligent. He is so self assured in his victory that he doesnt really care about anything or anyone, except Ishamael.

But consider. The surprises you speak of, I wouldn't like most of them. I don't like heroes being awesome. I TOLERATE it. And what reason do I have to continue reading if not to get to something I might like.

 

I'm paranoid and scared that I'm not going to like anything. And whenever I do mention something that I like (like Mogheiden getting inside Nynaeve's head) you seem to snuff it out.

I'm not sure if this is a spoiler but I think the DO is the way he is cuz he has ages to try (like a video game you lose you start again), he only needs to win once to win forever where as the light has to win always .....

 

 

Ishamael mentioned the endless ages thing in the first three books. So yeah, that ain't a spoiler for me