Turin Turambar

Lololololol. LOCK CLEAR. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Now who's trying to push a narrative? Where was this level of fight in your Heavy case. Oh that's right there never was a Heavy case. I just used my last 3 minutes of break to catch up but had to laugh at this.

Ooh 3 trains. Which one??? Hmmmmm VOTE ZANDER Hey Z maybe you should switch to Heavy so there's a counter train, lol Now I really gotta work.

I got like 5 minutes before I have to actually put my phone up and work but I wanna clear this stuff up immediately. @Gudrean, this game is open setup. It has one Mafia Godfather, 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Town Cop, and 6 Vanilla Town. All roles are determined by random.org. so anyone has as good a chance at any role as any other player.

I suggest that you look again this was the VC 13 hours from DL No one has more than 2 votes. Why are you not really advocating for anyone to join you on your big mafia read? most of your end of day posts are trolling or hot takes or wrasslin talk. If you wanna lead the village you have to lead. Most of what you posted was distraction which makes reading and keeping up more difficult. And now I need to get ready for work. I will be back much later tonight for a bit before bed but I'm really waiting to hear from people.

Here is some stuff from day 1. Note the time stamps for the vote counts. hopefully this works. The BOLD at top of each one is mine.

Sorry to hear your feeling poorly. I'm lucky I don't get migraines but Ithi does so I do know how they can wipe you out. Keep hydrated, get whatever rest you can, hope you feel better soon. I really hope that everyone comes in with their thoughts today. It really takes a village.

Dice is like 95% villa in this game right now. I do want him to dig in and do some Dice work and not just chit chat. Oh this is IMPORTANT. To the cop in this game. Do not reveal yourself in the odd case that you viewed me town last night. They will claim I am the Godfather so it doesn't count. If I get lynched it is okay. Then everyone will know I am being honest with you. If that happens I beseech you to peek either Z or Heavy, even if you peeked them last night. Actually, especially if you peeked them last night. If you peeked someone else, then please peek one of them tonight. I only ask you to follow this if I get lynched today and flip town. If anything else happens then you do what you think best.

I'm not saying he wasn't busing his teammate. I'm saying I think he was trying to bus Heavy. He and Heavy were locked in on each other all day (while he joked about others coaching him). I think HE WAS COACHING HIM. It is a classic gambit where you pick a huge fight with your teammate D1 either for cover and to ensure no one sees you as W/W, or to straight out bus for cred. If he had got the train to flip to Heavyand Heavy flipped mafia also would you have given him town cred for fighting with and nailing a maf on D1? Would you have leaned into cutting Cairos slack as a villa due to the narrative that it couldn't be 2 mafia trains like that. Zander goes back to acting like the TTT and saying something like "see I told you Cairos was LOCK CLEAR". Then he pushes me and Dice as the leaders of the Cairos train. No one else is active enough to stop him. GAME OVER. Look at Heavy's posts today. Some of yesterday too. He seems to be echoing Zander's thoughts. Odd since they are so sure each other are mafia.

I'm catching up here before I go back to go thru eod again. This is Zander trying to give town cred to Heavy for a wolf flip by me. Yesterday he was all for voting Heavy. Today he sussed him a bit but then voted me I think. This is obviously wolf team behaviour. If people don't or won't see it then they are gonna win. I'm gonna stop responding until I read all of it.

Mills reads and his failed attempted vote on Cairos. Note he is sussing me for pushing Cairos well before EoD. Now Mills was town, So we know he was honest. He was wrong on me but he was honest. Sorry but I just looked at the clock and I have to get up in 5 hours so I'm gonna have to stop for now. I really need a new computer.

Your voting Zander now correct? I don't think he is viable for today. Would you be willing to vote Mills? If Cairos flips town I think it is overall null on Zander. He could have lock cleared him knowing that he was town so got it right, or to set up something else OR he could just be town messing about in early game. Some people could think it looks bad on me. I'm confident in my process, and will keep working to help town. I'm starting to feel you are confident Cairos is town. What is your current read on him? Here is Heavy trying to put suspicion onto the people voting Cairos. I even mention that perhaps he KNEW Cairos was town because I suspect but don't know. I've confidently lynched a LOT of townies as town. Now looking back I think he just didn't want to lynch a teammate.

I asked dice if he was unwilling to lynch anyone else. He stood strong on Cairos. If Dice is the mafia then Bravo Dice. I am thinking he is pretty solid town now though.

Heavy, sniping at me. Zander snaps at him saying I wouldn't back down. He's right there. But it is just WvW theatre.

I'll get back to this later.

side note: here andy asks if we should take into account who is likely to be lynched when we vote. It is a good newb question. Andy, the answer is early in the day, absolutely not. Let your voice be heard and make your case for your vote. YOU might be the one that is right. Late in the day, ABSOLUTELY. The most important thing at EoD is to secure the lynch. Especially in a small game like this one.

Here I make a joke about Z and Heavy. They will probably say i'm setting them up. lol

Here I unvote so we can talk and make sure we get the most info out of the lynch. I make it very clear that I am willing to vote Cairos.

Ive beenfighting with formating stuffs forever it seems so its not gonna be pretty. Here Z gives his read list. He has Cairos as nul, could be either. Then says he is willing to lynch.

your the one with the fake cop claim.lol yourself. okay I will go do the things from EoD. Its gonna take a minute cause my laptop runs window7. I can let you vent if you want.

What do you want me to answer? Okay. Let me get over to.my laptop so I can go back and forth easier.

But you were NEVER ON CAIROS. Every time I asked about it you diverted to Heavy or Mills. I think you thought if you nailed Heavy day one you could coach Cairos enough to carry him. You just don't want to vote your wolf bro Heavy.

At the very end with the way it went,I was nervous we were wrong, so I was willing to consider other possibilities. But I was on Cairos all day and I did try to get people on board, so you are the one misrepping the situation. I still ask everyone to go back and look.

Based on my end of day 1 read, I think the last 2 are Zander and Heavy. At this time I don't think I'm voting anyone else.

Yeah, it was me and Dice on Cairos from the start. The train sat there while I mostly pushed it. That was part of why Mills sussed me. You and Heavy were locked on each other in a convenient tunnel.

This? Yes. Both are possible. So there are 3 people in the game still that would meet your thought, 4 counting you. What you thinking? Why were you adamant about not voting Cairos yesterday?