Lenlo

Luckily I stayed away from stupid colors.

I mean, it's legal to own. Just expensive. Guy I knew in Texas had one.

...Sure, why not. 2023. I wanted earlier, but there were no reputable used dealers near me so I had to settle for new. Which like, wont complain.

I sold the van a few years ago actually, I finally managed to get my Challenger before they went out of production.

Jokes on your Verb

Your response to every argument against you is "That's not an argument, because I say it's not an argument, why are you so mean to me". If you truly believe my argument is "OMGUS", then you legitimately have not read a word I've said this game. You think you have, but if that's your take away, it's clear you don't actually remember the start of D2 at all. How am I supposed to talk with you on an equal playing field when you refuse to actually read what is directed at you? Do you get why that's frustrating? > it is just these thin-skinned noobs who don't know how to play Never said that. Never called you thin skinned, never called you noobs. It's also never been the basis for anything. Please do not put words in my mouth. Never said I was brilliant, never said everyone else is rubbish. If you think I've had no actual arguments this game, it's just more proof you only read/respond to what's convenient for you. I'm sorry we don't mesh personally, but I'm not the kind of person to sit back when someone actively ignores everything I say.

If you actually listened to the arguments and criticisms, I wouldn't feel the need to. But you take any criticism of your play/actions as a personal attack. I have, you've just actively ignored it because it's inconvenient for you and hidden behind the "New player, don't know what I'm doing" excuse. Yeah, it's frustrating to have a lot of baseless accusations thrown at you while half the game is either excused for their tells because "New" or written off for policy even after admitting it could lose us the game. Meanwhile I have to watch my town consistently and repeatedly make the same mistake over and over. Because I've worked hard to solve this entire game, and 2/3rds the people on my train are only there because of personal distaste and not any actual casing or effort on their part. But despite the lackluster performance from town, in a game filled with baseless pockets, self votes, and policy refusals to lynch that will probably lose us the game, I'm still here, still trying to figure this out, still answering everything I can. Because despite the fact town doesn't deserve it, I like winning.

I swear to god, half this game has the reading comprehension of a sea bass. You just write what you think happened and will it into reality.

Your take on RTE is that he self voted, and so you cant lynch him. Your take on Gud is that she pocketed you D1. Those arent progressions, you've given me no reason to reevaluate those. Also, and I'll repeat, I'm not pushing Gud for al ynch I just think she hasn't played the game. There's no door there Zander.

Is that not what I've done with the Dice read all game? I've also actively tried to lynch RTE first, because my read on Cairos is depending on RTE's flip. I dont understand how I'm not entertaining your read.

Zander I dont get what you're saying here. Do you mean that me saying I havent played in 7-8 years, and being rusty, contradicts me saying Cairos isn't new?

What? I don't know how often Cairos has played since then?

Buddy every time you bring up that game I have to remind you that I didn't want that bus. That was all you.

ngl, I really hate this. You're just washing your hands of the game and accepting a loss off of something multiple people have done this game. Is that not what I'm doing as I'm interacting with you and Dice? Also "seasoned" my guy I havent played for like 7-8 years. Then why not vote dice with me? You say that Me/Cairos vote on dice is trying to secure a mislynch, but in the same breath say Dice/Turin are in your PoE with us. So why not clear that up, and let me work towards a solve, rather than filling half your votes with people who just dont like me personally.

Yes, if I accept the premise that "RTE is Town, mod confirmed", that would change how I interpret their past interactions.

Imo, with the time we have left for the day, I saw more merit in addressing the weaker reasons for players I see as scummy voting me than I did in starting an argument with a confirmed town. If I make it to D3, I'll gladly try to do that. But I didn't want to bog the thread down arguing with our confirmed vig when I could focus on players I find scummy.

I don't care that it's your second game my guy, new people have just as much a chance of rolling wolf as old people. Your time in the game doesnt matter, wolfy moves are still wolfy moves. Should I just ignore tells because you're new and don't know they are tells yet? Well, I tried. You say you want to meet me half way here, but you're refusing to accept one of my core issues.

I'll repeat that I think the complete and total refusal to look into RTE is going to lose us the game, because it's not based on any actual in game information but personal feelings/dislike. I'd also repeat that my read of Cairos is not one based on inactivity, but on his interactions with RTE. It's not a policy lynch from me. Anyways barring RTE/Heavy, I'd go Dice, then Gud, then Turin in that order. The order matters because after removing the ones you mentioned, there are only 3 people left in the game, so I figured order would make that make more sense. 1. @HeavyHalfMoonBlade - Accepted PoE by you 2. @Gudrean 3. @Zander? Town Watcher Claimed 4. @Cass BLUE - Town Original Watcher. Lynched D1 5. @ReleaseTheEvil - Off the table by you 6. @Cairos - Off the table by you 7. @Turin Turambar 8. @dicetosser1 9. @Shad_ GREEN - Town Vanilla. Killed Night 1 10. @Lenlo Me Hi 11. @Verbal32 Vig Claimed

Like seriously, do you genuinely believe this is what I'm saying? After every other way I've tried to explain that the issue is with you attempting to setup lynches pre-flip, as if you knew what the result would be, and your following insistence of a team up between me/RTE despite the almost entirely one-way interactions and my continued OK of an RTE lynch? Do you not see, taking your hatred goggles for me off, how those actions can appear wolfy? How attempting to guide town based on information we don't yet have, and then following that up with incorrect information afterwards, appears bad? How many ways do I have to try and explain that before you understand what I'm saying and don't just completely misunderstand it? I'm not even trying to push you with this, I'm genuinely trying to figure out what the disconnect is that you go from what I said to what you said.

Sure, most of those are a bit more substantive than something I guarantee you I make regardless of alignment because I genuinely believe it to be a bad joke and that those traditions should die.

You're once again either missing the point of what I'm saying, or purposefully misrepresenting it

Then it sounds like you should go with your wolfiest read. I'm going to be frank Zander, the only person who I think has an actual justifiable reason for voting me atm is Verb. The other two are entirely because I was "mean" to them and didn't let them coast by. Do you really think that's going to catch you a wolf? Because I think it's going to lose you the game when you go into D3 down one of your most active and invested players.

Try to actually case someone else? From my pov, you've been locked in on me/RTE for the weakest of reasons and havent actually put much effort into casing anyone else in the game, just riding other peoples reads. I'd like to see some actual casing/reasoning from you on someone new. Sadly though, I dont see that doing much, because despite what you may think, my reasons for suspecting you are largely based on your late D1/N1 actions where you appeared to be setting up future lynches ahead of a flip

To answer before you do, my PoE is Heavy/Cairos/RTE, with Dice following up in 4th. The only "new" player in the last is Heavy, and you're claiming an RTE flip wouldn't give us any real information, so honestly it reads like you're just being really lazy here to be frank.

Ok so its game over if you're wrong today, but we also need to lynch the person who gives the move info even if we're wrong? Sounds like its not game over then, and you should lynch the person you think is scummiest. Who do you think my PoE actually is? Because I only have 1 person in my top 3 that is "new", but apparently that's enough for you to discredit the entire thing. You should really consider actually looking at the other half of this game.