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  1. Started by Renzokuken,

    Hey I am sorry to the Mods for the new topic, Just finished ToM in paperback (Military stores didn't carry the hardback at release...Bloody AAFES) After searching through about 40 pages I skipped to the end of the topics and found there were 240 pages of topics and decided to keyword search, that too turned up empty. I just wanted to thank Brandon for his very good work on ToM. I found that TGS was a rougher ride then this second installment, I feel that this installment was almost seamless in transitions throughout the story, kept me on edge and laughing (as well as other things, have to have a twisted sense of humor like a war veteran to understand why). I hope that he…

  2. Honestly, the epilogue in book 6 makes a lot of sense if you assume Taim = Demandred. I, and other people whose opinion I have read, strongly feel that Robert Jordan intended for Taim to be Demandred all along, but then changed his mind when he found out how many people had figured it out. What do you think?

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  3. Ok...I see a great deal of astute speculation about what will happen in the Last Battle. But I was wondering if some WOT fans were like me and savings a little vacuole (or big empty space, in my case) in their head, to fill up when we finally read AMOL. I did go a little overboard with the # of choices. I did pick #11 #12 by the way. Enjoy.

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  4. Started by Dagon Thyne,

    As most of you know, RJ took alot of inspiration from the legends of King Arthur. For example, Rand took the "Sword" That Can Not Be Touched, from the "Stone" of Tear. Other examples include the names of characters and their content. Artur Hawkwing's middle name, Paendrag is taken from Pendragon, the name of Arthur and his father Uthur, who were both High Kings, just like Artur Hawkwing was. But my point is that most of the major characters could be found to be based on one of the Arthurian Legends. Who do you think is based on Arthur's nephew, Mordred? Most say it's Moridin. This makes sense, since Moridin is going to end up fighting Rand. Mordred wa…

  5. Started by omaleyb,

    I'm sure I'm not the first to speculate on this, but I think that the worms in the Blight are the larvae of Dragons. Now, we already have some dragon-like ceatures in the Raken and To'raken, but none of the Randlanders has ever said, "Ooh, that looks like a dragon." This is because their concept of a dragon is the Chinese version with no wings like the ones on Rand's arms. I could see this being the mystery thing in the blight that no one noticed, but I don't believe it is (just saying). I could also see the worms and their transformation being part of the LB. Maybe they transform do to something Rand does and fight on the light side, but probably not. I just wan…

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  6. Started by Tyzack,

    It's a pretty simple question; what role are the Shara going to play in MoL/TG? I have long been anticipating an embassy of some sort, either from the Travelling Aes Sedai or from Rand to go over there and see what's up. ...Did I miss something? (i'm fine w/spoilers here)

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  7. Started by Rand alSaurus,

    So this isn't your average topic, and it's not based on a certain theory or moment of the series. I poked around and tried to find a more appropriate place to put it, but if a mod comes along and wants to move it, please do! I am a dreaming enthusiast. So WoT is naturally very interesting to me! After I finished college I got into a thing called "lucidity." While dreaming, you try to gain awareness over that fact, while remaining asleep. It's not easy to do. There are habits you can get into to help you with it, but it does take time and some training. But once you reach lucidity it gets easier, and you can do some fun stuff (use your imagination!). I once started…

  8. Started by Taelin,

    Perhaps this has been discussed on another thread, but I was wondering if anyone has gleaned the exact process. We know that channelers have a weakness in that they can be forced to serve the DO by having 13 dreadlords channel spirit through 13 myrrdral, but is there more? I was thinking that the fades fade into the victim/host, which would account for the "dead, lifeless" look in the eyes of those who have joined 13 Incorporated. Anyone?

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  9. Started by Ace Sedai,

    Remember him? Siuan Sanche's Warder ? Yeah. He served her for twenty years,was executed and Siuan remembered to cry for him when her stilling was healed.That's it. Who was he,how did she bond him, what was being the Amrilyn's warder like.... all brushed under the rug. But we get dozens of pages about sniffing and skirt smoothing. THEY DID THAT MAN WRONG.

  10. Started by MarkDiLillo,

    So what actually is he? I assume the reasoning behind this statement is that he had always assumed he was going to come face to face and have to battle the DO, but now realizes that his purpose is something different than simply fighting the DO and dying to win. He also states that the Asha'man aren't weapons either. Has anyone dug into this a little bit more? It seems important and overlooked.

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  11. Started by kilika,

    Hey folks, Brandon Sanderson is coming to Scotland in November and I was planning on gifting him a pack of those magic cards he is always going on about on facebook. Does anyone know where I could buy some? Thanks in advance, Fraser

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  12. The War of the Shadow lasted only 10 years. Thats not enough time to breed a lot of Trollocs. Not only that, Fades born during that time would not have neough time to grow up and mature. So where did the Dark One get his armies from, which conquered the much of the world during the war?

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  13. I often wonder what the conversation was like before Egwene sent her to the Mistress of Novices: Newly arrived novice Bode barges into Egwene's study / tent, "Egwene, you simply must do something to save Mat from that awful Rand, he's the, the, um Dragon Reborn after all." Egwene: (radiating frost like a glacier) Child, do you have permission to see me? Bode: What, I've known you for years, how dare you talk to me like that! Egwene: I dare because I'm the Amyrlin Seat not the innkeeper's daughter you remember me as, but in any case your brother's fine, he visited Salidar recently. Bode: (raises eyebrows) But... you didn't hold him or assign him som…

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  14. Started by Winespring Patron,

    Davram Bashere referred to it at least once and I think Min had viewing related to it. What exactly does "the Broken Crown" mean? I've been waiting for Faile to talk about it but don't recall her even obliquely mentioning the subject. I'm assuming it has something to do with a discontinuity of the Saldean royal line of succession but that's just a best guess.

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  15. Started by Caveatar,

    The Wheel of Time Paradigm Shift Consider the entire series to be a continuation of The Eye of The World Prologue. Lews Therin Telamon and Elan Morin Tedronai are in a continuing war. LTT is CotL and Elan/a.k.a various names is the Champion of the Dark. Their war has continued throughout existence. The Dark One has NEVER succeded in winning or existence would cease. The Light Champion has NEVER gone over to the dark according to Rand/LTT memories but if he ever had then someone killed him before he could destroy the world and time or in going to the Dark he lost his will or capacity to break the Wheel. Speculation: The Dark One of himself is …

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  16. Started by Dagon Thyne,

    I just started my second readthrough of the series and something is weird. In the beginning of Eye of the World, Mydraal have the ability to make themselves invisible to adults, but after Rand and company leaves the Two Rivers, this ability is never brought up again. I was confused over this fact. Why is it?

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  17. Started by rageofwar1978,

    Greetings all thank you for your time. Something amazing occurred to me while I was trying to sleep and it woke me straight up. In the process of cleansing the taint of siadin from the true source Rand iirc “shielded” it though a column of siadar. That being said in the books directly AFTER that we begin to notice that keepings and wards made by siadar are if not failing….being corrupted as if rotting away without exactly failing entirely. This is a process that you may have noticed in some things created with siadin in the past. The ways area wonderful example. The ways were corrupted over time by the taint on siadin and if I remember there were other examples. …

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  18. Started by Leyrann,

    So, two days ago, we had Latin at school. And we were talking about the Roman Republic. For those who do not know it, the Roman Republic was ruled by two Consuls and the Senate. The Consuls had most power, and both had veto (is that the right way to say it? ). So now I thought, will the Towers be reunited, with Egwene and Logain as sort of Consuls, and the Hall + the Asha'man leaders the Senate?

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  19. Started by Sharaman,

    I asked this question in the "Simple" thread but it seems that it isn't too simple. I assumed when I asked the question that I'd missed something buried in the earlier part of the book but it appears that it wasn't so, at least in my copy. ToM Chapter 38. Perrin has destroyed the Dreamspike and Gated his entire force to Whitebridge. Graendal knows Perrin has escaped. She orders Slayer to spring the trap anyway. She "knows" that Perrin's ta'veren power will protect him from normal assassination attempts. But if she can catch him in the midst of battle, her last ace in the hole, Jaret Byar, might be able to kill him in the midst of chaos and confusion. It'…

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  20. Started by Rose,

    When Semirhage collars Rand and forces him to channel, she says: "Now, if I can remember. . . . The male way of doing this is so odd, sometimes." (TGS, chapter 22). This implies that she knows how to form this weave with saidin. How? Doesn't this contradict the statement that women can't teach men to channel, and vice versa, because channeling saiding is very different from channeling saidar? True, even the way in which the Power is controlled is different. The two halves feel very different. But all it takes to learn that is to link with a channeler of the opposite sex, as we've seen several times since Winter's Heart now. Therefore, it seems that the Aes Sedai got t…

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  21. Started by TLHansum,

    Does anyone harbor some predictions that are not so obvious? I was reading COT at work today and thought up some things that are from left field, but i wouldnt be surprised if i saw them happen! 1) Dragonmount is a volcano. A volcano that has never erupted. Tar Valon sits in the shadow of Dragonmount. I wouldnt be surprised to see the white tower destroyed by Dragonmount erupting in the last book forcing the Aes Sedai to start over somewhere. Presumably with the Ash'aman, although i kinda doubt at the Black Tower location. 2) We'll find out which of Rands three girls is Ilyena 3) Rand will get a face-to-face with the Creator and ask him questions we didnt…

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  22. Started by Kahsm,

    So Loial's description of how Ta'veren affect the pattern is a little more detailed than Moiraine's, but they are not different. Loial simply points out that a Ta'veren pulls the threads around him, but then continues to explain that those threads can then pull the ones around them and so on in an outward spiral. But he specifically notes that the first bending (only the first bending) is "Ta'veren". So my question is, does this make those threads in the second bending special? Does being bent by Ta'veren imbue the bent thread with temporary bending powers of those around them, and then can that third-tier thread bend those around it, in an ever decreasing amount of …

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  23. So, what do you think. Could she be? Once, she almost rooted out the Black Ajah. Maybe she wanted to do that the way Verin did it. And Cadsuane knows more about Verin than she says. She is one of the few who know Verin isn't as "Brown" as she appears to be.

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  24. Lanfear was able to drill the Bore herself, with some help. So, after she turned to the Dark, why didn't she finish what she started? She knew the weaves for drilling bores, simply drill and keep drilling until the DO was free. What am I missing here?

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  25. This has been bothering me. Why doesn't the Dark One simply ressurect all the forsaken who have ever served him since time began? Is this because DO can only ressurect someone who is bound to him (via those black threads) within a short time of their deaths?

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  26. Started by Andhaira,

    In one of the books it is mentioned that a Dragon has in a past Age turned to the Shadow. My question is, if that happened, how did the forces of Light win? I can only assume that it was the primary Dragon (like Lews Therin was), NOT the Dragon Reborn (which Rand is). If the primary Dragon is converted, then IMO it is still possible for the light to win. But if the Dragon Reborn is converted, then it is not possible, for far too much depends on the prophecies surrounding him. Remember, it is only the Dragon Reborn that has prophecies about him, not the primary Dragon. What do you guys think?

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  27. Started by Andhaira,

    Why are they so weak? I mean, if I recall correctly Rand kills a couple easily. Also, if they are indeed so weak why didn't Moirainne kill the one that was following the companions during the Eye of The World? She said she couldn't weave on her horse, but then she managed to weave some fog. Instead of that, why didn't she just call down lightning and kill the draghkar? Or if the weave for lightning is more complicated and can't be done on horseback, why didn't she just stop, dismount, and then weave lightning to kill the draghkar?

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  28. Started by Cuz7,

    Hi all. I am an avid fan of the WOT series and eagerly await the last book. I enjoy reading the posts here but I don't think I have the mindset to jump in on some of the topics. Anyone over 55 that wants to chat?

  29. Started by Vassili,

    While Egwene is meeting someone in Tel'aran'rhiod in the Hall of the Tower, she sees the Dragon's Fang beside the Flame of Tar Valon. She speculates that this is TAR's way of showing a world where the Dragon and Amyrlin ruled Tar Valon as equals. She immediately dismisses the possibility, but if this is a prophecy, it would lead to a variety of new questions: 1.) Will the BT and WT merge? 2.) Does this mean Rand lives? 3.) What about Logain? Where is his glory? 4.) Or the Seanchan for that matter? In Avi's vision Rand is dead/gone and the Towers are deffinately not united. Could this be the clue to "defeating" the Seanchan? Thoughts?

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    Started by Guest starsfan56,

    Economic circumstances are forcing me to part with my signed copies of WoT books. I'd rather they go to a true fan and lover of the stories, so if you are interested, please see my ebay listing at: http://www.ebay.com/itm/110752704239?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_500wt_1140 They've been in my household a very long time, and have been well taken care of. I have additional copies for reading, these have not been handled. Ok, a bit, to look at the signature every now and then....