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alright yeah mat is getting a lot better, he's getting layers and you can see more of who he is and how his brain works. 

 

and i seriously wanted to clap when elayne slapped egwene. she had that coming

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yeah she's a slippery one that. really would not be surprised if she turned on the dark one at some point

trollocs fighting other trollocs was lanfear's doing,

she was busy protecting her former lover's derrier. lol.

 

Ummm, Lanfear never sent those.

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indeed i was wondering because she said she wouldnt be so open about somethign like that because she didnt want people to know where she stood

during his fight at stone,rand noticed at least twice trollocs battling trollocs

and correctly assumed that a myrddraal had lost control of the trollocs and

their blood-lust took over,a little later,rand was pinned down by a trolloc's body,

a second trolloc with an axe tried to take advantage of rand's predicament

but was killed by a third trolloc,when rand managed to stand up,he heard

lanfear's voice just behind him,this was her doing.

 

cross,"if i take credit,you will expect it again,and that could be deadly.

you can expect no open aid from me."lanfear definitely helped rand.

If you haven't already, you might want to read the last part of Chapter 6 in The Lord of Chaos.

during his fight at stone,rand noticed at least twice trollocs battling trollocs

and correctly assumed that a myrddraal had lost control of the trollocs and

their blood-lust took over,a little later,rand was pinned down by a trolloc's body,

a second trolloc with an axe tried to take advantage of rand's predicament

but was killed by a third trolloc,when rand managed to stand up,he heard

lanfear's voice just behind him,this was her doing.

 

cross,"if i take credit,you will expect it again,and that could be deadly.

you can expect no open aid from me."lanfear definitely helped rand.

 

Its confirmed later Lanfear never sent any of the Trollocs there.

Doooh James beat me to it,.

we are talking about two different issues here,i'm well aware that lanfear

wasn't behind the trolloc attack at the stone and  she certainly didn't bring

trollocs to defend rand,but she probably twisted a certain trolloc's mind

to kill another trolloc to save rand,(she also caused two myrddraal to fight

each other to protect rand),this,in my opinion, was her doing.

Don't forget that in TSR Chapter 13, Mat recalls that he was also saved from a Myrddraal by Trollocs. It's hard to imagine that Lanfear would go to the trouble to save Mat.

I took it as that was simply being ta'veren at work, one group of trollocs met another group from a different forsaken at the time he needed it.

What happened was that Sammael sent trollocs and myrddral to kill Rand and Semirhage under orders from the Dark One sent trollocs and myrddral to oppose Sammael's forces.

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yeah that as my general take from it. that lanfear wouldnt openly help. she'd watch and comment and try and convince but wouldnt influence trollocs. 

 

 

and finnaalllly point of view from moiraine! 

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ok this rand watching the past of the aiel thing is blowing my mind. they aiel and the tinkers are essentially related?!  and that was totally lanfear taking some objects from the aiel just after the breaking wasnt it?

ok this rand watching the past of the aiel thing is blowing my mind. they aiel and the tinkers are essentially related?!  and that was totally lanfear taking some objects from the aiel just after the breaking wasnt it?

 

No, it was just some random Aes Sedai. It couldn't have been Lanfear because she would have been sealed.

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was she? the lady was acting crazy and mentioned something about how not all the forsaken had been properly sealed yet. at the very least the frist potential black ajah

Jack is right, only 1 forsaken wasn't fully sealed spinning him now and then, he also created the Black Ajah.  

well i'm sticking with her being black ajah. red herrings abound but i like that theory

 

She might have also just been someone that was desperate, greedy, or amoral. That was during the breaking and pre-white tower, pre-oaths. As we've seen from Aes Sedai in the current timeline many of them (non-BA) aren't necessarily good. Many are overly ambitious, greedy, power hungry, conceited, selfish, and/or just plain stupid.

 

At any rate, that AS could have been a dark friend or just someone that was just selfish. At any rate, she wasn't named and was only in that one scene so it's anyone's guess.

Another issue is there was no technically no BA back then, but if it was a bad channleer easily could of been a surviving dreadlord.  Or simply a channeler as Dex said out looking to find items of power.  Just some guess as  idon't really remember the scene.  As dreadlords weren't sealed, the survivors were still  about until they got hunted down.

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