How is it possible you are all acting so suspicious? 

Dice, how long until you have to go? 

You are really unwilling to lynch anyone else?

Can we not just Lynch everyone (still not used to seeing my name plastered everywhere) and let the Gods sort us out. Might be a blessing in the long run. 

6 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

So. Turin. What's I'd your read on the fact that Turin has been pushing Cairos since the Zander lock clear meme, and immediately after I point out that if Cairos flips town, Turin will be pretty deeply incriminated, he unvotes and starts sounding out a different "train", is that the right term? 

 

Could you as an experienced wolf, sorry, player, talk us through these machinations? 

 

 

Is this sposed to be at me?

 

 

3 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Dice, how long until you have to go? 

You are really unwilling to lynch anyone else?

 

i leave in about 20 mins. i will try to be online on the train buts its a bit awkward   plus i normally sleep

 

I REALLY think cairos is scum. Thats is tHE lynch to me

No I was cleverly asking Turin about his own behaviour in the third person to establish both how suspicious it is and how threadbare the trust is around here. But by all means let's have your opinion as well. Let's see how wolfy you sound in your tunnel vision on Cairos. 

Id say Turin got off to make sure a quick lynch didnt happen. 

5 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

So. Turin. What's I'd your read on the fact that Turin has been pushing Cairos since the Zander lock clear meme, and immediately after I point out that if Cairos flips town, Turin will be pretty deeply incriminated, he unvotes and starts sounding out a different "train", is that the right term? 

 

Could you as an experienced wolf, sorry, player, talk us through these machinations? 

First. I wasn't on Cairos because of Zander's post. I was on Cairos for Cairos' posts. I was on Zander for potentially being a loud-mouth mafioso that dominates conversation and uses his clout to keep his teammates out of trouble. If Cairos flips town then I will take some heat but my reasoning is sound IMO. Third, I only unvoted in order to keep discussion going and to see if there is a second train that can get going because we get more info if there is a second viable lynch train. The reason that is true is people have to make potentially more difficult decisions that will tell us more about who voted whom. This is the wagonomics that Zander keeps going on about.

Okay  Dice. 

 

Nothing is ever easy, lol.

14 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Can we not just Lynch everyone (still not used to seeing my name plastered everywhere) and let the Gods sort us out. Might be a blessing in the long run. 

No. It doesn't work like that. Everyone gets one vote. We need 6 out of 10 of us to get a lynch. If we don't  lynch someone,  we get no info until tomorrow morning when one of the town dies. No lynch is rarely if ever a good option. 

Ok that is glib. Not convincing but given the context it couldn't be. 

 

But if we were going to Lynch, wouldn't it be better just to get it over with? All this changing votes and bringing up alternate theories is only muddying the waters so if someone flips town, everyone will have accused everyone a few times and changed their mind and saved the vote and so on so it will be a flaming mess to see who really instigated what. 

 

At this point, I don't trust any of you and Andy is making the most sense logically. Which probably means about as much as who is using the funniest memes at this point. 

9 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

No I was cleverly asking Turin about his own behaviour in the third person to establish both how suspicious it is and how threadbare the trust is around here. But by all means let's have your opinion as well. Let's see how wolfy you sound in your tunnel vision on Cairos. 

Who do you think the mafia are?

 

Better yet can you make up a read list of everyone with Who you trust, who you don't and why for each?

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

TURIN - 1  (Andy)

CAIROS - 3 (Dice, Sooh, Gudrean)

HEAVY - 2 (Millon, Zander)

ZANDER - 1 (Heavy)

ANDY - 1 (Cairos)

 

NOT VOTING - Donchadh, Turin

 

6 to Lynch - Hammer Game

 

End of Day 1 Timer

 

https://stagetimer.io/r/UVDHPDFH/

 

Votes in Bold Red. You must Unvote before changing your vote.

4 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I did have my suspicions of Cairos at the beginning but I would rather lynch Mills or Zander. So many people voting for Cairos makes me suspicious of the voters.

 

*sighs*

 

But I guess we need to have a lynching to see how things lie.

 

No rush yet to change my vote. 

 

If Cairos flips town, who is incriminated? Zander for marking him early doors? Turin for casting suspicion on Cairos because of Zander's post yet voting for Cairos and not Zander? Both of them? Part of some wolf dream team? 

 

You can really think round in circles in this game. 

Your voting Zander now correct? I don't think he is viable for today.  Would you be willing to vote Mills? 

 

If Cairos flips town I think it is overall null on Zander. He could have lock cleared him knowing that he was town so got it right, or to set up something  else OR he could just be town messing about in early game. Some people could think it looks bad on me. I'm confident in my process, and will keep working to help town.  

 

I'm starting to feel you are confident Cairos is town. What is your current read on him?

4 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

This is sus. You aren't making an argument against me but still casting shade. 100% wolf behaviour. If I die note this well. 

 

4 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

4 hours ago, Zander? said:

I would like the Tone too...if it wasn't coming from a self proclaimed new player.  The reads,bravado, connections all halfway thru D1 doesn't compute coming from a new player.  Feels like either not new or has help.  Ill be the first to apologize if I'm wrong post game but I'm having alot of trouble buying it.

This is sus. You aren't making an argument against me but still casting shade. 100% wolf behaviour. If I die note this well. 

I will remember this. 

Just under 3 hours till end of Day 1

This sucks. I'm sorry. Work turned into a bear and I have little to no time. Lunch got axed. Ugh

 

Long/Short:

 

Vote: Cairos. Sorry buddy. Stalemates are no bueno. A lynch is better than no lynch. His activity, albeit understood with the business of saving lives, he hasn't offered much in mapping folks. (I am fully aware that statement can be used against me as well. hahaha fml). If he flips town I am strongly eyeballing Turin. 

 

My Town:  Gud, Sooh,

 

Null: That means unsure? If so, Dice, Don, Andy, Heavy

 

Sus: Turin, really pushing Cairos well before we got close to EOD. Z, so much text. 

I think everyone has been remarkably non-wolfy since the opening exchanges (that is Gud, Sooh, Cairos, Mills, Andy) except for the silent Don, the Zanderish Zander, and you (Turin) and Dice. Maybe be a use they have backed off whereas you guys have continued hounding suspicions. 

 

One thing to consider if someone flips town, what does that tell us? If Turin (you) flips town, that would implicate a few people. If Cairos flips town, there are a few that would look a bit shady. If Zander flipped town would I look bad? What would lynching Mills tell us? 

 

I'm kinda worn out now. Having suspicions of a townie does not make you mafia. We need to see patterns and we time to see them. 

 

Am I confusing activity with suspicion? I don't know any more but I don't trust any of you. Plus I have base line of behaviour on any of you. Don and Andy are both new here, and you fossils I don't know from Larry. No offence meant. 

 

Maybe we should lynch one of the most active people, as then at least we would have a large body of definitely town or mafia reasoning to examine. Or maybe we should save them for when the stakes are higher. 

 

Can you lynch yourself? Then I would get some peace and you would know I was coming from a genuine place, lol. 

 

Sweet Jeebus, this is an exhausting game. 

Sorry for all the typos. 

I'm so sorry you can't edit. It would drive me crazy.

 

You must unvote before you can vote again.

 

2 hours and change till end of Day 1

Z, I'm willing to lynch any of the 6 tbh.

In order of pref to lynch.

 

Cairos as previously discussed 

Mills. I really didn't like that vote on top of general questionable behaviour.  I think this was discussed earlier as well.

Heavy. I'm thinking he.might KNOW Cairos is town. 

Donchadh.  MIA

Gudrean. Seems mostly just newbie.  Can't tell if newbie town or newb mafia.

Andy. Slow start but recent posts have seemed better.

5 hours ago, Gudrean said:

@Donchadh is mostly MIA - not sure if that is RL stuffs or purposely being quiet cause he's a wolf.

APOLOGIES to all the Mafia players.  RL gobbled me up...but I'm back and catching up.  Please accept these small apology gift tokens...

 

Something to drink and 

 

Something to snack....

 

Now, back to the game!! 

*eats snacks*

39 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Ok that is glib. Not convincing but given the context it couldn't be. 

 

But if we were going to Lynch, wouldn't it be better just to get it over with? All this changing votes and bringing up alternate theories is only muddying the waters so if someone flips town, everyone will have accused everyone a few times and changed their mind and saved the vote and so on so it will be a flaming mess to see who really instigated what. 

 

At this point, I don't trust any of you and Andy is making the most sense logically. Which probably means about as much as who is using the funniest memes at this point. 

You dont want to rush lynches. that plays to the mafias advantage.

 

Also particularly on d1 you want to take as much time as possible, while getting as many people as possible to lay out their thoughts so you can go back with a more informed eye tomorrow and start trying to piece things together.

Donchadh,  please get us your thoughts as soon as possible.  

 

How.many people are here and available?

2 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

*eats snacks*

The tacos do.look good.

 

VOTE HEAVY for competition