30 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

I'll take Cass's help if no one else asked already. 😃

 

You got it!

 

Everyone ... please be aware that @Gudrean now has @Cass as a mentor.

 

Cass does not know anyone's roles or alignments.

 

Cass can not post in this Thread

 

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Day 2 will end at 10pm Friday 7 March.

 

TURIN - 2 (Zander, Heavy)

ANDY - 1 (Dice)

ZANDER - 1 (Turin)

 

Not voting: Andy, Donchadh, Sooh, Gudrean 

 

5 to Lynch

 

This is a Hammer Game. Majority Lynch will end the day. If no Majority is achieved there will be No Lynch.

 

End of Day 2 Timer

 

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9 hours till end of Day 2

12 hours ago, Gudrean said:

1. As a first time player I would expect a townie to post about what they've observed and who acts like they are hiding stuff. I would think they would want to convince other towns they are town but not sound like their trying too hard to defend anything that hasn't been specifically hung on them. But this is prolly more about my style and not what better players would do. I thought I would see people using facts with deductions but I didn't know how much of the facts were going to be hidden from most of the players. Also I didn't realize the cop had to be careful to not get caught sharing info or they'd get NK'd. Really I didn't know what to expect and am just learning as i go. 

 

2. I've tried to think of how them taking out Mills would be helpful since he was next on the suspected to be lynched list but can't come up with a good answer.

 

3. no I have not but it sounds like you have 🤣

 

4. maybe I was being played by a master to unvote them but i just felt moved to rethink my vote lol

 

5. since we have a real life lumberjack AND an ultimate wrestling fan, should we have a lumberjack match to solve this game? Might work with all the original players back, 10 should be enough to make it interesting yes?

 

 

Thanks Gudren

 

and please  Dont Encourage the Zander

 

12 hours ago, Gudrean said:

You should leave me off this list as i think my posts are more than the other 3 combined???

 

Youre neww so the more we hear from you, the better chance we have of being able to get a read on you.

 

Trust me being quiet gets you mislynched regularly.

 

12 hours ago, Donchadh said:

 

This is a really good question...and honestly...I'm a bit stumped so I guess "I don't really know(?)" is the best answer I can come up with.  But that isn't fair, so I will try.  As I try to think through this, I have perhaps, maybe? two observations (but I have never played before...so they probably don't make any sense.).  

1) I wouldn't expect a Townie to make accusations or push for "naming wolves" without supporting analysis because if they were a Townie they would have no idea who the other Townies were and might run the risk of killing one of their own.  So I guess, Townies would accuse less or decide on wolves less??

 

2) I would also expect a Townie to be more reluctant to theorize(?), as again, they are operating with less information.

 

However, these 2 expectation are speculative because I really have no experience or knowledge to base them on. And mostly just reflective of my own personality. (Hopefully, one of the more experienced players can comment on these expectations.). 

But I have been very quiet, (thanks to RL), so I thought I'd try to at least answer the question.  If nothing else, it helps me try to understand how to play this game...which I am still struggling with.  

 

1) A townies main two jobs are (and their linked) show their towniness (talking, giving reads, asking questions, pushing for answers etc) and hunting scum. That requires a few things. taking bits of info and putting a picture together or using it to catch inconsistencies, theorizing and rethinking those theories based on what has happened and for some like me pure gut reads that they push and stick by.

 

And sometimes theres a bit of showmanship in order to try and protect a power role, theirs or anothers, to try and actually gET the mafia to kill them. 

 

and then theres META. Its the USUAL way a person plays or sounds and can vary if their scum or town. People aim to come accross the same in either case. People rely on meta a fair bit  and for some its reallyv good. for eg unless theres recruitment int he game Id NEVER waste a cop view on zander because i read him REALLY REALLY well. But then there are others id always view cause i struggle with them or their good enough or have enough influence to get by on even if they are scum

 

Am i making sense?

 

12 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Alright you Silverchair loving ....MAROON...*runs*. 

 

#everyonehastobenicetothezander!!!

 

#zanderisdeadsexy!!!!!!!

 

#ZanderismanlyCanadianWrasslinLumberjackmanwithamajesticbeard!!!!

 

Ok you see if too with Heavy right?!??!!  It's not just me...it's like one post seems like exp player and other asking the Nirmala new player questions.  In trying to not focus on it but can't seem to let it go....FML lol

 

Honestly, maybe Dice will agree or maybe not but, as new players I don't think focusing too much on the NK is a great idea.  I'm not saying don't at all and ask some questions for sure if you're curious but first few games should be getting the hang of the game, how it works, how it's played, Mafia terms, asking questions,  learning to find both Townies and Wolves.  Each game played you'll learn a little more, understand a little more, feel a little more comfortable playing and interacting.  Just my 2 cents worth anyways.

 

breaks a silverchair album over Zanders head.

 

I think theorizing on the mills kill is pointless.but ive already explained that

 

11 hours ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

FYI

 

Zander is being allowed to edit a word in a specific post I have pointed out to him.

 

Don't call him out for having an edited post as I asked him to do it.

 

Thank you

 

 

awww cmon Ithi!!  let me hassle him for it!!!!!  PWEEEAAASSSEEE????

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

 

You're not going back and forth because you know I'm right.  I've never been one to make super duper long windy WoT posts as I hate them. I post thoughts ask questions probe and hunt and reevaluate if I feel its necessary. What Villagers are supposed to do.

No. I've made myself clear. Either I'm right and your mafia, in which case you aren't going to change your mind because you need me lynched  now. Killing me tonight instead makes you look awful.  

Spoiler

If you really aren't mafia I may have signed my own death warrant,  lol.

OR

I'm wrong your not mafia. Then I need to look long and hard at everyone else. However,  you have said that you NEED my slot resolved. Which means I won't be changing your mind. 

Spoiler

Actually,  I don't see a way I survive to tomorrow so I probably won't have to look at anyone. 

I've decided that my verbal jousting with you is harmful to getting people to come in and talk so I'm gonna be quiet.

I really hope everyone does come in and give their thoughts, theories, questions  and suggestions.  

 

I'll check in every so often to answer questions and to place my vote should it be required to secure a lynch.

deadline is 9am for me and i will not be here for it.  I leave at 7 for a music festival and wont be back til like 1 or 2am the next day.

 

I will try to be on early in the morning but thats only 5 hours away so im not making massive guarantees lol

31 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

I no longer like you for stealing CassGOATENFPMUSICTWINHYDRAFRAND!!!!!   

 

I will also NEVER ever ever trust you In a Mafia game again in you're a Wolf this game!!!!!  Lolololol

don't worry dear, I'm not and I'm only borrowing Cass not really stealing. 😉

1 minute ago, Gudrean said:

don't worry dear, I'm not and I'm only borrowing Cass not really stealing. 😉

 

Is now a good time to tell @Zander? that a) cass was mine first and b) shes coming up to visit me and go to state of Origin with us in july?

4 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

deadline is 9am for me and i will not be here for it.  I leave at 7 for a music festival and wont be back til like 1 or 2am the next day.

 

I will try to be on early in the morning but thats only 5 hours away so im not making massive guarantees lol

so you're abandoning your wolfpack , I mean teammates for a most awesome music festival? Sorry Dice, I've been hanging around Zander too much. Have a great time for all of us, please 🥰

1 minute ago, Gudrean said:

so you're abandoning your wolfpack , I mean teammates for a most awesome music festival? Sorry Dice, I've been hanging around Zander too much. Have a great time for all of us, please 🥰

 

I dont have a wolfpack cause im town.

 

Word to the wise   if cass is helping you, tell her not to get in her head on me. 😄 

 

Zander is an infectious disease. Once infected it NEVER goes away

3 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

Zander is an infectious disease. Once infected it NEVER goes away

I think I have already learned, the hard way, I may never be the same after THE Zander!

45 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

 

 

 

Literally in direct order EOD 1 lololololol

Hogwash.

Look at the timestamps you claimed to care so much about. I was literally typing while those posts were made. I believe I even said as.much when I posted my review which you poo pooed for their lack. I also already explained how Cairos voting Heavy could well be the reason Mills got killed N1. For the very resson your claiming right now. BTW Heavy,  Zander was the wolf that I thought would try to make that argument,  and here he is doing it.

 

Now you got.me.breaking my word

 I do think this was important enough to address however. 

Scum

 

Andy   Why arent we lynching the self claimed scum? He said he answered about the post but i havent seen it. has anyone else?

 

Heavy Not certain here  Andy flips scum it looks REALLY bad for heavy

 

Sooh  Looks like shes doing work but isnt really digging in.

 

Town

Zander

Turin

 

their getting annoying.

 

Noob town read on Gudren    really bad reason.

27 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

Thanks Gudren

 

and please  Dont Encourage the Zander

 

 

Youre neww so the more we hear from you, the better chance we have of being able to get a read on you.

 

Trust me being quiet gets you mislynched regularly.

 

 

1) A townies main two jobs are (and their linked) show their towniness (talking, giving reads, asking questions, pushing for answers etc) and hunting scum. That requires a few things. taking bits of info and putting a picture together or using it to catch inconsistencies, theorizing and rethinking those theories based on what has happened and for some like me pure gut reads that they push and stick by.

 

And sometimes theres a bit of showmanship in order to try and protect a power role, theirs or anothers, to try and actually gET the mafia to kill them. 

 

and then theres META. Its the USUAL way a person plays or sounds and can vary if their scum or town. People aim to come accross the same in either case. People rely on meta a fair bit  and for some its reallyv good. for eg unless theres recruitment int he game Id NEVER waste a cop view on zander because i read him REALLY REALLY well. But then there are others id always view cause i struggle with them or their good enough or have enough influence to get by on even if they are scum

 

Am i making sense?

 

 

breaks a silverchair album over Zanders head.

 

I think theorizing on the mills kill is pointless.but ive already explained that

 

 

 

awww cmon Ithi!!  let me hassle him for it!!!!!  PWEEEAAASSSEEE????

 

This isn't the Band Dice you're corrupt Aussie Justice cannot get me!!!!!!  Lolololololol

18 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

I dont have a wolfpack cause im town.

 

Word to the wise   if cass is helping you, tell her not to get in her head on me. 😄 

 

Zander is an infectious disease. Once infected it NEVER goes away

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

You still love me 💖 

15 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Hogwash.

Look at the timestamps you claimed to care so much about. I was literally typing while those posts were made. I believe I even said as.much when I posted my review which you poo pooed for their lack. I also already explained how Cairos voting Heavy could well be the reason Mills got killed N1. For the very resson your claiming right now. BTW Heavy,  Zander was the wolf that I thought would try to make that argument,  and here he is doing it.

 

Now you got.me.breaking my word

 I do think this was important enough to address however. 

 

What?!?!?!

 

Lololololol

 

Cairos voting Heavy causes Wolves to kill Mills?!?!?!  Mills was my next Wolf.  If I was a Wolf I'd never NK cause I'd not have much issue getting him launched the next day phase but speculation if NK is pretty much pointless...but I have to get you to explain this to me lolololol. So a Wolf jumping on the only other chance to save their own skin on a , as you claim a Town Turin PoV, doesn't spew heavy it means the Wolves kill Mills and Cairos jumped to a teammate?;?!!!!   

 

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

18 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

Scum

 

Andy   Why arent we lynching the self claimed scum? He said he answered about the post but i havent seen it. has anyone else?

 

Heavy Not certain here  Andy flips scum it looks REALLY bad for heavy

 

Sooh  Looks like shes doing work but isnt really digging in.

 

Town

Zander

Turin

 

their getting annoying.

 

Noob town read on Gudren    really bad reason.

 

Agree in Gur tho maybe she's pocketing me...

 

It's def one at least of Turin Sooh and You. In order and I still think you're Town.  

 

In some bizzaro world and somehow Turins a villain. I first,  want to be the NK or mislunched because if that's the case Town is doomed lolololol but I think it's Sooh and one of Heavy, Don, Andy most likely.  Tho some flips will clear things up .  

 

So you're convinced Turins town Dice and wont consolidate?!?!?

19 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

Andy   Why arent we lynching the self claimed scum? He said he answered about the post but i havent seen it. has anyone else?

Andy explained she meant there were two votes for wolf on Turin. This makes way more to me than she accidently told everyone the identity of the last two wolves for no reason. 

Just now, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Andy explained she meant there were two votes for wolf on Turin. This makes way more to me than she accidently told everyone the identity of the last two wolves for no reason. 

In so I'm confused about this.  Can you quote her response to Dice thinking she outted herself?!?!!

21 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

Scum

 

Andy   Why arent we lynching the self claimed scum? He said he answered about the post but i havent seen it. has anyone else?

 

Heavy Not certain here  Andy flips scum it looks REALLY bad for heavy

 

Sooh  Looks like shes doing work but isnt really digging in.

 

Town

Zander

Turin

 

their getting annoying.

 

Noob town read on Gudren    really bad reason.

Don't follow any of these reads. Don't know if that means I'm stupid or this is suspicious. 

17 hours ago, Andy MacLeod said:

Update: currently at page 49. Trying my best to catch up. Made a few notes to give fuller thoughts, but haven't finished catching up yet. 

 

I saw a few calls to clarify my comment on Turin, but haven't had time to go dig out the original post, as I am trying to catch up. My memory is that someone was calling 1 wolf on Turin. I said 2 wolves on him because I added my own strike (so 2 strikes against Turin). Is that what you are asking about? 

 

Gotta do some work now. Will circle back probably later tonight.

Here is the young lady's explanation. 

11 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Honestly not a lot it'll take a few games together for me to develop a feel for ya especially since there's multiple new players, I haven't played with most of the crew here in years nor played myself in almost as long lol.  

 

I get the feel your kind, dislike conflict and will avoid if possible but won't back down if it's necessary or important to you.  You like comfort, order, getting along as opposed to chaos and craziness that Mafia games can devolve too once in awhile.  I think you will be more a gut/meta player then an analytics type.  Just vibes I could b way off tho lol.  You come across as sweet and wholesome tho something tells me there's a bit of a wild/free spirit there just beneath the surface 

I'll say this you have a pretty accurate read on my RL personality! I'm impressed on that, especially the last bit about wild/free spirit under the surface.  I think my game personality has already changed so much since starting this game because I'm learning from some of the best Players. I think I have really enjoyed this even the back and forth stuff. It can be stressful if you let yourself think it's real and not just part of a game so I have also learned to keep my feelings out of it. I do believe I am a gut/meta. I tend to feel into situations if I can't use logic. So thank you for humoring me with this response. Also thank you to all the players, I am learning so much from you all. 

Now back to scum/wolf hunting. 

11 minutes ago, Zander? said:

In so I'm confused about this.  Can you quote her response to Dice thinking she outed herself?!?!!

I think when she said 2 wolves on Turin everyone was thinking she was saying the 2 voting for Turin were wolves but he's saying she was just saying 2 wolf votes for Turin. Or she did actually out herself on accident or purpose *shrugs*

19 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

It's def one at least of Turin Sooh and You. In order and I still think you're Town.  

 

In some bizzaro world and somehow Turins a villain. I first,  want to be the NK or mislunched because if that's the case Town is doomed lolololol but I think it's Sooh and one of Heavy, Don, Andy most likely.  Tho some flips will clear things up .  

 

So you're convinced Turins town Dice and wont consolidate?!?!?

What if Turin is town, are we then as good as won?

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

 

What?!?!?!

 

Lololololol

 

Cairos voting Heavy causes Wolves to kill Mills?!?!?!  Mills was my next Wolf.  If I was a Wolf I'd never NK cause I'd not have much issue getting him launched the next day phase but speculation if NK is pretty much pointless...but I have to get you to explain this to me lolololol. So a Wolf jumping on the only other chance to save their own skin on a , as you claim a Town Turin PoV, doesn't spew heavy it means the Wolves kill Mills and Cairos jumped to a teammate?;?!!!!   

 

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

OK.  One more time and I'll use small words.

Cairos is going down. Not enough people or time to switch the lynch.

You give Cairos the chance to vote either Mills or Heavy. My theory is Heavy is his (and your) teammate.

Cairos knows he is hung so uses his last action to vote Heavy. Cairos flips mafia.

Mills gets killed in the night. 

Heavy was still your prime target at start of D2. Then you switched to me. You made that post about suspecting Mills after he was dead and it didn't look.like.you had typed previously because you were getting told off for post while Ithi was doing the scene.

Heavy comes out speculating about why Mills was the NK. At some point I speculated that it was to clear Heavy just as your doing now. He claimed to not understand. I laid it out for him again.

Killing Mills makes it look like Cairos (who knows everyone's alignment) chose to vote Heavy (an unknown) over Mills (a townie). Therefore, Heavy MUSTBETOWN, because mafia would never...

I told him when he doubted that a clever wolf would be able to make that argument. It looks like you are that clever wolf. But you should have waited for tomorrow when I will be dead.