2 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Worst thing is he's prolly Town too and Wolves have like 4-6 members 

 

With Verb and if RTE and Heavy are Villa lolololol 

Well hopefully now that Verb doesnt have to hide/ride that line to avoid being NKed he will be more helpful. Dudes thoughts/words are the only guaranteed town thing we have, we can trust everything he says is coming through honestly, which is helpful.

3 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

"Explain to towns satisfaction why this happened"

 

This reads like the fakest statement I've ever seen, no lie.

 

The point I am making is that no one has to convince me. Town players have to convince the other town players. It is the wolves that will be trying to muddy the waters and distract. 

 

Every town player should be happy to explain their thought processes. That way we have the best way of catching the wolves. Fake outrage and bluster only favours the wolves whether it is coming from a wolf or a townie. 

9 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

With how expected it was, they could have been trying to dodge the Watcher? That or they are inexperienced as wolves maybe?

 

Good point, I forgot about the Watcher.

 

3 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Dude, it's not about clout or giving orders. We as Town need to solve this. Class's lynching was hugely sus as it involved not one but two guaranteed townies. If anyone who is Town was involved don't they want to explain this to their teammates for a town win? It seems only the mafia would react so to someone trying to solve. 

 

TWO guarenteed Town? Who are the two?

Just now, dicetosser1 said:

TWO guarenteed Town? Who are the two?

That... is a good point. I didn't catch that, I thought he meant Cass. But Cass was the one being voted so... Who is the other person he means?

Wait Shad wasn't even on that train at all. Who the heck is Heavy talking about?

On 3/14/2025 at 5:59 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Official Vote Count

 

LENLO - 2 (Verbal, Cass)

RTE - 3 (Dice, Heavy, Turin)

VERBAL - 1 (Shad)

CASS - 5 (Lenlo, Cairos. Gudrean, RTE, Zander)

 

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Final vote of D1. The 3 confirmed town are Shad/Cass/Verb. Not a single one of them were on the Cass train. So... What is Heavy talking about?

6 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Dude, it's not about clout or giving orders. We as Town need to solve this. Class's lynching was hugely sus as it involved not one but two guaranteed townies. If anyone who is Town was involved don't they want to explain this to their teammates for a town win? It seems only the mafia would react so to someone trying to solve. 

 

I've explained it and none else is asking but you.  It's your wording and possibly you're understanding or lack there if irt to the reasoning.  You're much appear TRYING to look concerned than actually BEING concerned.  But again it's been explained.  Go back and read from Cass last post I think , the one with her list and vote and you'll see all my reasoning.   You also act like I wasn't trying to get people RTE instead....which I was.

And its not himself either.

 

My WTL right now

 

RTE

Heavy

 

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RTE - 1 (Dice)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Heavy, Lenlo, RTE, Turin, Verbal Zander

 

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2 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

Final vote of D1. The 3 confirmed town are Shad/Cass/Verb. Not a single one of them were on the Cass train. So... What is Heavy talking about?

 

Don't wanna be that guy....but gonna be a hat Guy..... Two confirmed Villas on you...and if the worldview you're Town the. We've got at LEAST ONE experienced Wolf if not 2 or 3

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

Don't wanna be that guy....but gonna be a hat Guy..... Two confirmed Villas on you...and if the worldview you're Town the. We've got at LEAST ONE experienced Wolf if not 2 or 3

You're not wrong, I have 2 on me. You wanna talk, got any questions, we can figure it. I'd say though, we have 1 conf town voting another conf town in Verb/Shad and you/me voting Cass, and all of us were wrong.

If we have at least one experienced wolf, that means they probably shot Shad to avoid the watcher? Unless Verb holstered, but we'll get his thoughts tomorrow.

2 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

Wait Shad wasn't even on that train at all. Who the heck is Heavy talking about?

I cannot quite believe I'm having to explain this, despite pointing this out repeatedly already. 

 

Verb, a guaranteed townie, was leading the VC. Things were very quiet. Only other serious wagon was RTE. Then Cass, the second  guaranteed townie, changes her vote. This puts Verb and RTE level. Many people lose control in chat, switch votes to Cass. Apparently because she was trying to save Verb, a wolf. But then we learn that Verb definitely isn't a wolf yet people continue to vote for Cass until she is level with RTE then Zander kills her, saving RTE with the worse possible excuse that makes no sense, as Dice has pointed out. 

 

Everything looks like RTE and Zander with Lenlo ably supporting are the wolves. If I've misunderstood anything I'd invite you to explain, which you haven't done. Saying oops isn't an explanation. If you are a townie, you would want this confusion of mine cleared up so we can concentrate on the real wolves. 

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

You're not wrong, I have 2 on me. You wanna talk, got any questions, we can figure it. I'd say though, we have 1 conf town voting another conf town in Verb/Shad and you/me voting Cass, and all of us were wrong.

If we have at least one experienced wolf, that means they probably shot Shad to avoid the watcher? Unless Verb holstered, but we'll get his thoughts tomorrow.

 

I'm not saying your a Wolf atp.  I'm just saying Wagonomics NK states really only 2 worldviews with you, each as likely as the other,  that you're a Wolf or pretty close to spewed Town.

3 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I cannot quite believe I'm having to explain this, despite pointing this out repeatedly already. 

 

Verb, a guaranteed townie, was leading the VC. Things were very quiet. Only other serious wagon was RTE. Then Cass, the second  guaranteed townie, changes her vote. This puts Verb and RTE level. Many people lose control in chat, switch votes to Cass. Apparently because she was trying to save Verb, a wolf. But then we learn that Verb definitely isn't a wolf yet people continue to vote for Cass until she is level with RTE then Zander kills her, saving RTE with the worse possible excuse that makes no sense, as Dice has pointed out. 

 

Everything looks like RTE and Zander with Lenlo ably supporting are the wolves. If I've misunderstood anything I'd invite you to explain, which you haven't done. Saying oops isn't an explanation. If you are a townie, you would want this confusion of mine cleared up so we can concentrate on the real wolves. 

 

You're logic is bad if you're a Villa.  If a Wolf decent enough ballsy play.  Read all my explanations.  If you don't understand ask.  If you don't believe vote.  

3 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I cannot quite believe I'm having to explain this, despite pointing this out repeatedly already. 

 

Verb, a guaranteed townie, was leading the VC. Things were very quiet. Only other serious wagon was RTE. Then Cass, the second  guaranteed townie, changes her vote. This puts Verb and RTE level. Many people lose control in chat, switch votes to Cass. Apparently because she was trying to save Verb, a wolf. But then we learn that Verb definitely isn't a wolf yet people continue to vote for Cass until she is level with RTE then Zander kills her, saving RTE with the worse possible excuse that makes no sense, as Dice has pointed out. 

 

Everything looks like RTE and Zander with Lenlo ably supporting are the wolves. If I've misunderstood anything I'd invite you to explain, which you haven't done. Saying oops isn't an explanation. If you are a townie, you would want this confusion of mine cleared up so we can concentrate on the real wolves. 

Yeah... This doesnt make sense with what you said before and seems like you're pulling it out of your pocket while continuing to do this whole "I'm confused and it's your fault so your a wolf" thing, despite spending most of the night phase trying to setup lynches on people. 

 

Anyways like I said, my current wolf team is Heavy/RTE/...Cairos? Least sure on Cairos, there was some back and forth between him and RTE in D1, but that could easily have been distancing since no votes/serious pushes really came from it that I can remember. Right now, that's the group I'd look at and it would give us two wolves on the Cass train, which would make sense.

10 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

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RTE - 1 (Dice)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Cass, Gudrean, Heavy, Lenlo, RTE, Turin, Verbal Zander

 

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I like Dice and RTE wagons today.  Gonna see how things shake out but I really need these slots to make sense with only 1 NK especially.

 

VOTE: DICE 

 

 

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

Yeah... This doesnt make sense with what you said before and seems like you're pulling it out of your pocket while continuing to do this whole "I'm confused and it's your fault so your a wolf" thing, despite spending most of the night phase trying to setup lynches on people. 

 

Anyways like I said, my current wolf team is Heavy/RTE/...Cairos? Least sure on Cairos, there was some back and forth between him and RTE in D1, but that could easily have been distancing since no votes/serious pushes really came from it that I can remember. Right now, that's the group I'd look at and it would give us two wolves on the Cass train, which would make sense.

 

Don't know if you followed last game , Cairos was a Wolf that game.  I thought the opposite irt to RTE and Cairos as I'm not sure how comfortable Cairos would be bussing like that.  I'm not ready to like rule it out but ya my take ATM.

20 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

The point I am making is that no one has to convince me. Town players have to convince the other town players. It is the wolves that will be trying to muddy the waters and distract. 

 

Every town player should be happy to explain their thought processes. That way we have the best way of catching the wolves. Fake outrage and bluster only favours the wolves whether it is coming from a wolf or a townie. 

Explain the bold please. Are you howling?

Just now, Zander? said:

 

Don't know if you followed last game , Cairos was a Wolf that game.  I thought the opposite irt to RTE and Cairos as I'm not sure how comfortable Cairos would be bussing like that.  I'm not ready to like rule it out but ya my take ATM.

I have not seen the previous game at all, this is the first mafia game I've look at in years.

 

I'd be willing to lynch RTE first and see how that confirmation affects Cairos though, like I said I'm not super confident on that 3rd slot. Could also be Dice, though I don't really understand your push on him fwiw

Anyways, dinner time, VOTE HEAVY

 

Put my money where my mouth is before I head out.

Stop this W/W pantomime to bus RTE. It's sad. 

 

Answer the question. You have not explained anything. Look at the content of what you have said. I have been trying to set up lynches? I've been saying we need to talk about this very point. The paw prints of wolves are definitely there, so we need to clear the innocent town footprints. 

 

I'm not confused in the slightest. You guys are wolves. 

 

But if I am confused, and you are town, you need to explain your actions for the good of town - and that is regardless of my alignment. Even if I was a wolf, which I'm not, it would not invalidate the logic of what I'm saying. 

 

Or are you saying this is the respect you give all new players? Disregard them, bully them, push them if they open their mouths? It is a bit sad really. 

You're saying so much while saying so little.

25 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

 

First line is straight up misrep.

 

Bottom  not casing? what do you call an RTE/Cairos theory? Ive given my case on you. And pot shots? Ive sussed you, i sussed Cairos I was concerned about a post of Cass' but notice ive only voted ONE person? Its not like im hopping around from person to person.

 

And if you wanna talk about taking shots well the Pot? Meet Kettle. What youre accusing ME of there is EXACTLY what youve been doing.

 

VOTE RTE  Verb shouldve killed him and im buggered if I know why he didnt. Its Vig 101 after all

 

 

You screwed the wagonomics by changing your vote. 

 

Your change of vote also made no sense. you thought 2 people were sum. They were the two tied trains and it wouldve randomed between the two which should have made you happy and might have netted a scum.

 

 

 

Gonna lynch yourself? Youre the one who lynched her after all

 

 

As said above but day beat me I wouldve said RTE but also would have thought thatd be your autoshot tbh

 

Dice I know you know the difference.  If it goes random the other wagons Wagonomics are speculation.  My switch to someone I also had suspicion on ensured , either way I was getting someone I sussed lunched.  I really wanted RTE first and no one would come or was around to come over to him and my switch kept the Wagonomics pure and Voters accountable.

 

22 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Dude, it's not about clout or giving orders. We as Town need to solve this. Class's lynching was hugely sus as it involved not one but two guaranteed townies. If anyone who is Town was involved don't they want to explain this to their teammates for a town win? It seems only the mafia would react so to someone trying to solve. 

 

Lets try this again and this time @HeavyHalfMoonBlade how about you answer the person who actually ASKED the question in the first place?

 

Red   (im assuming you meant to say Cass here). So You are talking about CASS' lynch. So thats the train to look at right? 2 confirmed town on there yeah?

 

Lets see who is guaranteed town  Shad  Cass  Verb for all intents and purposes. 

 

NONE of them were on Cass' lynch. YOU werent even on it so you cant say your talking about yourself.

 

So WHO ARE THE GUAREENTEED TOWNIES ON CASS' LYNCH?

 

 

4 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Explain the bold please. Are you howling?

 

Lololololol

 

Just like Andy last game?!?!??!

 

 

Funny Dice didn't jump in that tho eh....