2 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Explain the bold please. Are you howling?

I'm saying that the stuff that happened at EoD was sus af. Town need to look at what happened. Now I'm town, that is why I'm bringing it up, but what I am trying to say is that it is not me personally you need to convince, it the town players regardless of who you think they are. 

 

If you guys are saying I'm suspicious for trying to solve, I must have misunderstood the point of the game. 

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RTE - 1 (Dice)

DICE - 1 (Zander)

HEAVY -1 (Lenlo)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Heavy, RTE, Turin, Verbal

 

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On 3/14/2025 at 6:59 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Official Vote Count

 

LENLO - 2 (Verbal, Cass)

RTE - 3 (Dice, Heavy, Turin)

VERBAL - 1 (Shad)

CASS - 5 (Lenlo, Cairos. Gudrean, RTE, Zander)

 

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31 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

The point I am making is that no one has to convince me. Town players have to convince the other town players. It is the wolves that will be trying to muddy the waters and distract. 

 

Every town player should be happy to explain their thought processes. That way we have the best way of catching the wolves. Fake outrage and bluster only favours the wolves whether it is coming from a wolf or a townie. 

 

35 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Dude, it's not about clout or giving orders. We as Town need to solve this. Class's lynching was hugely sus as it involved not one but two guaranteed townies. If anyone who is Town was involved don't they want to explain this to their teammates for a town win? It seems only the mafia would react so to someone trying to solve. 

 

UNVOTE DICE 

 

VOTE HEAVY 

If Like Heavy and or RTE town

 

Lenlo Turin Dice Wolf team likely and we've already lost.

5 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

Lets try this again and this time @HeavyHalfMoonBlade how about you answer the person who actually ASKED the question in the first place?

 

Red   (im assuming you meant to say Cass here). So You are talking about CASS' lynch. So thats the train to look at right? 2 confirmed town on there yeah?

 

Lets see who is guaranteed town  Shad  Cass  Verb for all intents and purposes. 

 

NONE of them were on Cass' lynch. YOU werent even on it so you cant say your talking about yourself.

 

So WHO ARE THE GUAREENTEED TOWNIES ON CASS' LYNCH?

 

 

 

20 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I cannot quite believe I'm having to explain this, despite pointing this out repeatedly already. 

 

Verb, a guaranteed townie, was leading the VC. Things were very quiet. Only other serious wagon was RTE. Then Cass, the second  guaranteed townie, changes her vote. This puts Verb and RTE level. Many people lose control in chat, switch votes to Cass. Apparently because she was trying to save Verb, a wolf. But then we learn that Verb definitely isn't a wolf yet people continue to vote for Cass until she is level with RTE then Zander kills her, saving RTE with the worse possible excuse that makes no sense, as Dice has pointed out. 

 

Everything looks like RTE and Zander with Lenlo ably supporting are the wolves. If I've misunderstood anything I'd invite you to explain, which you haven't done. Saying oops isn't an explanation. If you are a townie, you would want this confusion of mine cleared up so we can concentrate on the real wolves. 

I'm talking about Verb and Cass. 

36 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

 

First line is straight up misrep.

 

Bottom  not casing? what do you call an RTE/Cairos theory? Ive given my case on you. And pot shots? Ive sussed you, i sussed Cairos I was concerned about a post of Cass' but notice ive only voted ONE person? Its not like im hopping around from person to person.

 

And if you wanna talk about taking shots well the Pot? Meet Kettle. What youre accusing ME of there is EXACTLY what youve been doing.

 

VOTE RTE  Verb shouldve killed him and im buggered if I know why he didnt. Its Vig 101 after all

 

 

You screwed the wagonomics by changing your vote. 

 

Your change of vote also made no sense. you thought 2 people were sum. They were the two tied trains and it wouldve randomed between the two which should have made you happy and might have netted a scum.

 

 

 

Gonna lynch yourself? Youre the one who lynched her after all

 

 

As said above but day beat me I wouldve said RTE but also would have thought thatd be your autoshot tbh

I didn't jump around with my votes. I was voting Cairos, then verbal to save my hide, then moved off verbal with the vig claim to Cass 

2 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I'm saying that the stuff that happened at EoD was sus af. Town need to look at what happened. Now I'm town, that is why I'm bringing it up, but what I am trying to say is that it is not me personally you need to convince, it the town players regardless of who you think they are. 

 

If you guys are saying I'm suspicious for trying to solve, I must have misunderstood the point of the game. 

OK. Noted. I was thinking that you are town. This possible "slip" gives me some doubt. I have questions for others.

 

If you are town, which I hope you are then I ask you to try not to be defensive when people question you. They might be mafia trying to get you to overreact but they might be town trying to solve you.

5 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Stop this W/W pantomime to bus RTE. It's sad. 

 

Answer the question. You have not explained anything. Look at the content of what you have said. I have been trying to set up lynches? I've been saying we need to talk about this very point. The paw prints of wolves are definitely there, so we need to clear the innocent town footprints. 

 

I'm not confused in the slightest. You guys are wolves. 

 

But if I am confused, and you are town, you need to explain your actions for the good of town - and that is regardless of my alignment. Even if I was a wolf, which I'm not, it would not invalidate the logic of what I'm saying. 

 

Or are you saying this is the respect you give all new players? Disregard them, bully them, push them if they open their mouths? It is a bit sad really. 

 

Top line   Who are you talking to?

 

Dude they disregard EXPERIENCED players. Believe me.

 

We arnt bullying you but yes we ARE pushing you. Thats the game. you push people to get answers, slips or mistakes so you can work them out.

 

2 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Dice I know you know the difference.  If it goes random the other wagons Wagonomics are speculation.  My switch to someone I also had suspicion on ensured , either way I was getting someone I sussed lunched.  I really wanted RTE first and no one would come or was around to come over to him and my switch kept the Wagonomics pure and Voters accountable.

 

You screwed the wagonomics by swapping. You only started sussing her late day 1, you sat there and said "if someone doesnt move in 2 mins I will" Then moved ONE minute later. I know because I was posting id be willing to move at the same time AND i checked the time stamps at the time.

 

For anyone NOT you they do not KNOW if you moved for pure consolidation or if youd been bussing RTE andf saw a way to get off.

 

The wagonomics were more pure before you moved and the voters are always accountable for their votes. Moving didnt change that. 

 

All you did by moving was GUARENTEE a townie as we now know died. If you HADNT moved Cass may not have died.

@Verbal32

 

You around tonight or is Sunday night still weekend time?

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HEAVY - 2 (Lenlo, Zander)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Heavy, RTE, Turin, Verbal

 

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2 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

Top line   Who are you talking to?

 

Sorry, that was directed at Z/Len. 

4 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I didn't jump around with my votes. I was voting Cairos, then verbal to save my hide, then moved off verbal with the vig claim to Cass 

 

I didnt say you jumped your vote around.  i said you were taking potshots.  Len Zander Gud Me  etc.

Just now, dicetosser1 said:

 

Top line   Who are you talking to?

 

Dude they disregard EXPERIENCED players. Believe me.

 

We arnt bullying you but yes we ARE pushing you. Thats the game. you push people to get answers, slips or mistakes so you can work them out.

 

 

You screwed the wagonomics by swapping. You only started sussing her late day 1, you sat there and said "if someone doesnt move in 2 mins I will" Then moved ONE minute later. I know because I was posting id be willing to move at the same time AND i checked the time stamps at the time.

 

For anyone NOT you they do not KNOW if you moved for pure consolidation or if youd been bussing RTE andf saw a way to get off.

 

The wagonomics were more pure before you moved and the voters are always accountable for their votes. Moving didnt change that. 

 

All you did by moving was GUARENTEE a townie as we now know died. If you HADNT moved Cass may not have died.

 

My vote ensured Maj on one of two lead wagons ensuring and not going to any of the 4 players!  Ensuring one of the twin top wagons went.

Just now, Zander? said:

 

My vote ensured Maj on one of two lead wagons ensuring and not going to any of the 4 players!  Ensuring one of the twin top wagons went.

Ohhh I see the issue, Zander I think the tie random means it randoms between the tied wagons, not all 4 wagons. Ithi can confirm, but I think I see the confusion now.

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

My vote ensured Maj on one of two lead wagons ensuring and not going to any of the 4 players!  Ensuring one of the twin top wagons went.

 

Tied 

Just now, Lenlo said:

Ohhh I see the issue, Zander I think the tie random means it randoms between the tied wagons, not all 4 wagons. Ithi can confirm, but I think I see the confusion now.

 

Random is random on all poss wagons iirc?

VOTE RTE

 

Though obviously willing to lynch Zander and Lenlo at this point as well. 

15 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Lololololol

 

Just like Andy last game?!?!??!

 

 

Funny Dice didn't jump in that tho eh....

 

Because I was posting at the time and didnt see it.

 

Youre trying to hard.

So. 

 

Given I'm also town the wolves are really playing a clean game so far. 

 

I don't like heavy the most but I'm worried about conflating bad play with being scummy 

 

I still think one of turin or dice is scum at least, they were part of my trio with vig verbal. 

 

We don't think there's a chance verbal or scum didn't submit a kill in time over weekend? Hope not the case for verbal anyways. I would be surprised if verbal had gone Shad. 

 

Anywho right now I'm reluctant to vote dice without properly casing him at some point because Turin could also easily be scum of the two, though Turin maybe more consistent, if again still too nice. Don't think Turin has stuck his neck out as much as Dice has though, but is it AI? Can't remember how Turin used to play because defending Ithi if she also played. 

 

Gonna hold off voting for now and want to see how much deeper Heavy's hole gets 

 

3 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

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RTE - 1 (Dice)

HEAVY - 2 (Lenlo, Zander)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Heavy, RTE, Turin, Verbal

 

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Just now, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

VOTE RTE

 

Though obviously willing to lynch Zander and Lenlo at this point as well. 

 

Seen pretty concerned early one there about not being only lead wagon Heavy whys that I wonder?

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

Random is random on all poss wagons iirc?

 

Nope just between the lead trains. I asked ITHI in thread and she coinfirmed

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

Random is random on all poss wagons iirc?

No we cleared that up in chat on D1. How convenient of you not to have noticed. 

4 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

I didnt say you jumped your vote around.  i said you were taking potshots.  Len Zander Gud Me  etc.

When did I pot shot Len or Zander? 

 

I was hardest by far on Cairos 

1 minute ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

So. 

 

Given I'm also town the wolves are really playing a clean game so far. 

 

I don't like heavy the most but I'm worried about conflating bad play with being scummy 

 

I still think one of turin or dice is scum at least, they were part of my trio with vig verbal. 

 

We don't think there's a chance verbal or scum didn't submit a kill in time over weekend? Hope not the case for verbal anyways. I would be surprised if verbal had gone Shad. 

 

Anywho right now I'm reluctant to vote dice without properly casing him at some point because Turin could also easily be scum of the two, though Turin maybe more consistent, if again still too nice. Don't think Turin has stuck his neck out as much as Dice has though, but is it AI? Can't remember how Turin used to play because defending Ithi if she also played. 

 

Gonna hold off voting for now and want to see how much deeper Heavy's hole gets 

 

 

Someone needs to explain this dice case to me, cause I still have no idea what it's about. I'm open to it, I'm neutral on the guy and dont think he's town yet, but I have no idea what the case is.

2 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Random is random on all poss wagons iirc?

No just tied top ones