Just catching up a bit. Gonna  find a couple quick things to ask before I go back to finish my reread.  I only got to p30.

4 hours ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

What makes you think heavy is town? 

I can follow along with what he is saying when he is zen!Heavy.

 

With the exception of the possible "slip" I think his reactions to the pressure put on him is more likely from a new town player than first time mafia.

2 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

I can follow along with what he is saying when he is zen!Heavy.

 

With the exception of the possible "slip" I think his reactions to the pressure put on him is more likely from a new town player than first time mafia.

 

You find his responses the same as last game Turin.....are you all caught up yet?

 

2 hours ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I would say only like half the things you listed are actually sus behaviour 

So which of the things listed would you say are sketch? Null? Townie?

 

 

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

You find his responses the same as last game Turin.....are you all caught up yet?

I find them similar. I also think he is putting in effort to solve. I mentioned last game I had difficulty with his posts due to something. I don't know if English is his first language because I think he said he was from Netherlands? And I think he lives in UK now, but I'm not sure. It also feels like sometimes he is letting the game get to him.

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Heavy, I have said this before and I'm not trying to talk down or anything but this is a game of arguments. Some times they can feel personal. They almost never actually are. When someone does occasionally step out of line here, the mods squash that stuff pronto(some other places are much rougher). Try your best to maintain the zen and logically try to figure out what is happening. 

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Please,  don't be a wolf, lol.

 

 

I'm basically caught up. I think. There were some more things I wanted to address from today's chats but my dog is expecting lunch now so that will be a minute. 

13 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

I find them similar. I also think he is putting in effort to solve. I mentioned last game I had difficulty with his posts due to something. I don't know if English is his first language because I think he said he was from Netherlands? And I think he lives in UK now, but I'm not sure. It also feels like sometimes he is letting the game get to him.

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Heavy, I have said this before and I'm not trying to talk down or anything but this is a game of arguments. Some times they can feel personal. They almost never actually are. When someone does occasionally step out of line here, the mods squash that stuff pronto(some other places are much rougher). Try your best to maintain the zen and logically try to figure out what is happening. 

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Please,  don't be a wolf, lol.

 

 

 

It's almost impressive how we view almost everything differently and understand/play the game differently too lololololol

4 hours ago, Zander? said:

@Gudrean

 

You're gonna break my heart 💔 this game aren't you....sadface.gif

If breaking your heart means I'm wolfy then No absolutely not! I'm all Gud in that department.

On 3/15/2025 at 7:15 AM, Zander? said:

I had 2 dreams last night....

 

The first dream was truly terrifying the Wolfy team was in Dice/Shad/Heavy/Turin

 

My second as dream was truly heartbreaking the Wolf team was in Dice/Gud/Cairos/Lenlo

 

But when I woke up I thought about it and figured my dreams meant it's Dice/RTE/and one of Carios/Gud and one of Shad/Turin/Heavy 

 

You got Dice in both groups so you feel strongly about him. Shad was town. So am I to understand that both Verb and the wolves shot Shad? I read why Verb did it but why would the wolves want Shad out? Is it because they thought he was too obviously town and would never get lynched? RTE has been in my lynch pile all game but at the same time he's really good at pulling on the feels that make me think he's clean. I am not the best at wanting to lynch a person who seems sincere but he might just be really good at it. 

Heavy sometimes sounds wolfy but also sincere so I'm not 100% on him yet. Lenlo has also been in my pile of lynch most game but just because he seems too invested at times. Turin and Cairos are both confusing for me. Cairos feels clean but he felt all nice last game too and was a wolf. Turin feels different this game but only slightly. He's also been trying to adjust his playstyle and with real background for me of him I can't say either way if that's wolf or town. 

Zander, you felt like town Zander at the beginning but I also have a sinking feeling surrounding you. Not sure what it is but I've heard you're very good at the bus!

 

14 hours ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Official Vote Count

 

RTE - 2 (Dice, Heavy)

HEAVY - 2 (Lenlo, Zander)

 

 

this right here gives the feeling that one of these two trains is wolves? 

10 hours ago, Zander? said:

I think my worst fear is true..it's a 3 or maybe even 4 experienced player Wolf team as they Verb as well.   Shads the only one I felt semi decent about. And if RTE is a villager too it's 5 player Wolf team basically. 

 

I think Ithi said there's only 3 in OP?

4 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

I think Ithi said there's only 3 in OP?

Good morning sister! Yes in the OP Ithi said there is 3x mafia goons. 

Official Vote Count

 

RTE - 2 (Dice, Heavy)

HEAVY - 3 (Lenlo, Zander, RTE)

ZANDER - 1 (Verbal)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Turin

 

This is a Deadline Game. This means whoever has the most votes as Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide between the players on the Lead Trains. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

 

Day 2 Timer

 

https://stagetimer.io/r/UVDHPDFH/

20 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

I think Ithi said there's only 3 in OP?

 

Yes that's correct Verb is the 4th and in some bizzaro works RTE Town wolves have 5 members 3 like supposed to and 2 honorary (im being sarcastic ofc....kinda....id lol if I didn't wanna cry and throw up in my mouth some.)

@dicetosser1 thoughts on Heavy please when you're caught up?

37 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

You got Dice in both groups so you feel strongly about him. Shad was town. So am I to understand that both Verb and the wolves shot Shad? I read why Verb did it but why would the wolves want Shad out? Is it because they thought he was too obviously town and would never get lynched? RTE has been in my lynch pile all game but at the same time he's really good at pulling on the feels that make me think he's clean. I am not the best at wanting to lynch a person who seems sincere but he might just be really good at it. 

Heavy sometimes sounds wolfy but also sincere so I'm not 100% on him yet. Lenlo has also been in my pile of lynch most game but just because he seems too invested at times. Turin and Cairos are both confusing for me. Cairos feels clean but he felt all nice last game too and was a wolf. Turin feels different this game but only slightly. He's also been trying to adjust his playstyle and with real background for me of him I can't say either way if that's wolf or town. 

Zander, you felt like town Zander at the beginning but I also have a sinking feeling surrounding you. Not sure what it is but I've heard you're very good at the bus!

 

 

I want you to be Town soooooo bad.....but I DTA (DON'T TRUST ANYBODY)

@Gudrean

@Cairos

 

Give me a 3 person Willing to Lunch Today and why and 1 person you refuse to (obviously not yourself) and why please and thank you?!

 

Id actually like to see everyone do it fwiw 

 

We need a consensus today, no chance of random. Everyone needs their reads and votes accountable in the thread if we mislunch today and with the NK tonight d3 is it, we'd have to lunch correctly 3 straight days or lose.  WE NEED A RED FLIP TODAY PEOPLE!!!!!!  

Just now, Zander? said:

@Gudrean

@Cairos

 

Give me a 3 person Willing to Lunch Today and why and 1 person you refuse to (obviously not yourself) and why please and thank you?!

 

Id actually like to see everyone do it fwiw 

 

We need a consensus today, no chance of random. Everyone needs their reads and votes accountable in the thread if we mislunch today and with the NK tonight d3 is it, we'd have to lunch correctly 3 straight days or lose.  WE NEED A RED FLIP TODAY PEOPLE!!!!!!  

Definitely not today = Verbal

3 person would = Lenlo - has been on my sus list all game

                                RTE - feels too convincing atm

                                Dice ???  very unlikely to happen for me today but you wanted a 3rd

1 minute ago, Gudrean said:

Definitely not today = Verbal

3 person would = Lenlo - has been on my sus list all game

                                RTE - feels too convincing atm

                                Dice ???  very unlikely to happen for me today but you wanted a 3rd

 

I thought Verbal would be obvious not to mention my bad besides yourself AND Verbal

6 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Ya and the other/remaining 

 

Turin/Dice/You

 

I could see a RTE/Heavy/(one of the other 3 I listed. 

 

Cairos could be a Wolf here but I'm not sold he's one with RTE.  Feels either more like Scum!RTE going at LHF as opposed to bussing at least to me. Or Town! RTE railing activity based push against either alignment Cairos.

 

I could also see a RTE OR Heavy and 2 of Turin/Dice/You

 

I think it's Turin and Dice moreso than you in any of these scenarios but atp and with Verb being honary 4th Wolf and if in some way and wacky World RTE is a Villager too.....games been lost since yesterday as it's 6 Town vs 5 Wolves

 

 

5 hours ago, Zander? said:

Ummm wait a minute...where Gud been at?!?!!!!

Yeah I was about to say, where's Gud in all of this? Because I know you're pocketing/all in on her, but she hasn't been seen for a bit and I think now is the time to maybe revisit some of those early reads.

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

Yeah I was about to say, where's Gud in all of this? Because I know you're pocketing/all in on her, but she hasn't been seen for a bit and I think now is the time to maybe revisit some of those early reads.

 

She's pocketing me tbf but prolly semantics lololol.  Ya Im having some doubts but she's not at the top of my suspects/worried about ATM.  Once you catch up more Gud posts to discuss/evaluate.

Just now, Zander? said:

 

She's pocketing me tbf but prolly semantics lololol.  Ya Im having some doubts but she's not at the top of my suspects/worried about ATM.  Once you catch up more Gud posts to discuss/evaluate.

I'm all caught up but everyone has good posts and seems they could possibly be town but isn't that the point. No one's gonna just come out and say hey I'm a wolf. That's what makes this hard and interesting.

I don't think the early D1 stuff is the most important stuff to base this choice on but my early reads are all I've got since everyone seems to be pleading for their lives when pressed. It makes it hard for me to choose.

4 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Before I go into radio silence just posting this for your perusal. This is Lenlo casting shade on Cass for saving Verb. Note Lenlo was still voting for Cass at EoD, once we knew Verb was worthy of saving. 

 

This to me is a smoking gun. When Verb was leading the voting Lenlo was quiet, then goes super active to find a non-RTE lynching. And their behaviour towards each other has felt off to me the entire game. 

 

But take it as you will. Obviously as an inexperienced player I have no idea what I'm talking about. 

 

Good luck, town.

Super quiet? I was pretty active at the time, plus I had just finished pushing him and was content with my vote until his vig reveal. Of course I'm going to look for alternatives when he clears himself with the vig claim. Also, I made it clear I'm down with RTE or Cass, I asked Zander which he would prefer. You keep acting like I'm trying to keep RTE alive when I've been down to lynch/vig him for the past two (in game) days.

 

Nothing you're saying makes sense, nor reflects reality.

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

Super quiet? I was pretty active at the time, plus I had just finished pushing him and was content with my vote until his vig reveal. Of course I'm going to look for alternatives when he clears himself with the vig claim. Also, I made it clear I'm down with RTE or Cass, I asked Zander which he would prefer. You keep acting like I'm trying to keep RTE alive when I've been down to lynch/vig him for the past two (in game) days.

 

Nothing you're saying makes sense, nor reflects reality.

see what I mean, this reads town even tho I just said he was on my lynch list, it's darn hard to play a guessing game where everyone seems innocent

10 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

Definitely not today = Verbal

3 person would = Lenlo - has been on my sus list all game

                                RTE - feels too convincing atm

                                Dice ???  very unlikely to happen for me today but you wanted a 3rd

You keep listing me in your sus list, do you have any reason for that beyond... "Has been on my sus list"? Cause from where I'm sitting, your reason is circular, he's there because he was always there. I'm not even casing/accusing you, I just want an actual reason for it, because I haven't seen a good one all game.