1 minute ago, Gudrean said:

I believe many people have pointed out repeatedly that Dice is playing differently than the last game, which I am aware you weren't in @Lenlo but it is there.

Yeah, I want a "How". Explain it to me. Because just telling me "He's playing dif" isn't an explanation

6 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

Yeah I'm not experienced enough to know how to do that just yet. But if you keep coming back and playing I'm sure in a few more games I will do just that. 

So you're saying you can't make a list of all the remaining players in the game and give your read on them and why you think they are scum or town? That will take you a few more games? 

 

Is that really what your saying? 

I'm trying to consider if scum!Lenlo would be hard defending a teammate here or not.  It's been too long, I have no idea.

1 minute ago, Verbal32 said:

I'm trying to consider if scum!Lenlo would be hard defending a teammate here or not.  It's been too long, I have no idea.

He isn't defending Dice. He's telling the truth. No one has made a good, solid, evidenced case for Dice 

Just now, Lenlo said:

Lenlo is annoyed that half this game have given up and crashed out. You want to make random crap up go ahead, but this is the 2nd time with you and I'm just over it.

 

Sorry was trying to lighten the mood  after being the one one to cause the poor mood to begin with.

 

I can try explaining my Dice read to you.

 

I mean I have itt multiple times

 

But there stuff I personally look for when reading dice.

 

One big thing is what I call the Diceyness factor.  The one post or comment that's just so.... Dicey I go yep Dices prolly Town.

 

Another is activity now wait I know Dice is always pretty on the low end but it's not so much like the number of posts it's the who what where when and why of them.

 

Is Dice sharing his thoughts Reads and takes and are they something I feel Dice ACTUALLY feels or is it something that I feel Dice knows hes supposed to feel if that makes sense, which in not sure it does to anyone but me.

 

And lastly there 1 post I freaked about Righe around EiD1 or start d2 when I was like Dice a Wolf...and it wouldn't make sense to anyone but me.

 

Sorry man but that's my take 

 

I don't feel Dice is Town....like last game he smashed all 3 Wolves basically and I know obviously that's not gonna happen each game but even the stuff he was looking for and how was posting feels off.

 

Like could I be wrong ofc.

 

Am I wrong I dunno, I don't feel that's necessarily the case

 

And with everything else said etc irt to everyone else Dice makes most sense to me 

Just now, Lenlo said:

Yeah, I want a "How". Explain it to me. Because just telling me "He's playing dif" isn't an explanation

Well, I think I have already done that. Though to be fair, other people may have a reading. 

 

I'm having trouble getting a read on you, Lenlo. Your tone has been very prickly and non-constructive throughout but I suppose that could very easily be NAI. 

 

I don't get why you are being so combative. I think a lot of people with outcome of D1 feel the need to reevaluate completely. You don't seem to quite have the same feeling, or am I wrong about that? 

5 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

So you're saying you can't make a list of all the remaining players in the game and give your read on them and why you think they are scum or town? That will take you a few more games? 

 

Is that really what your saying? 

Umm this response wasn't about others it was about me proving you wrong per your own words.

7 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

I never said Heavy is ok to go for, just that I'm considering still based on the null read post as I find that super scummy.  That's all.

I said Zander, when he said to a lesser extent Heavy.  I wasn't clear so I understand any confusion. 

 

I don't really find a true null read with explanation sketchy. But you do you, boo.

Also just to say I thought I needed to apologise for my outburst last night but I can see now I should have held the rest of the post for post match. My bad. 

8 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

Yeah, I want a "How". Explain it to me. Because just telling me "He's playing dif" isn't an explanation

I'll give it a shot but it will be after supper tonight.  Maybe in 4 hours.

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

Sorry was trying to lighten the mood  after being the one one to cause the poor mood to begin with.

 

I can try explaining my Dice read to you.

 

I mean I have itt multiple times

 

But there stuff I personally look for when reading dice.

 

One big thing is what I call the Diceyness factor.  The one post or comment that's just so.... Dicey I go yep Dices prolly Town.

 

Another is activity now wait I know Dice is always pretty on the low end but it's not so much like the number of posts it's the who what where when and why of them.

 

Is Dice sharing his thoughts Reads and takes and are they something I feel Dice ACTUALLY feels or is it something that I feel Dice knows hes supposed to feel if that makes sense, which in not sure it does to anyone but me.

 

And lastly there 1 post I freaked about Righe around EiD1 or start d2 when I was like Dice a Wolf...and it wouldn't make sense to anyone but me.

 

Sorry man but that's my take 

 

I don't feel Dice is Town....like last game he smashed all 3 Wolves basically and I know obviously that's not gonna happen each game but even the stuff he was looking for and how was posting feels off.

 

Like could I be wrong ofc.

 

Am I wrong I dunno, I don't feel that's necessarily the case

 

And with everything else said etc irt to everyone else Dice makes most sense to me 

Thank you

 

Just now, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Well, I think I have already done that. Though to be fair, other people may have a reading. 

 

I'm having trouble getting a read on you, Lenlo. Your tone has been very prickly and non-constructive throughout but I suppose that could very easily be NAI. 

 

I don't get why you are being so combative. I think a lot of people with outcome of D1 feel the need to reevaluate completely. You don't seem to quite have the same feeling, or am I wrong about that? 

Oh piss off. My tone wasn't combative at all, you just didnt like being called out for poor play N1/D2. To everyone else (Until today after all the AtE and crap from half the game) I've been nothing but constructive.

 

And no, I dont feel the need to reevaluate, because everything you did during N1/Early D2 reeks. You routinely attempted to setup pre-flip lynches, you actively misrepresented what was said and ignored facts stated outright in the thread, and you generally howled for 48 hours only being saved by like 3 back-to-back crashouts.

 

As for your dice read, I dont care about your Dice case. You're explanation means nothing to me. I care about Verb and Zanders, the main people pushing him and the only even slightly town people doing so.

7 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Please, if you don't mind, post a concise case on why you think Dice could be scum.  Try to keep it short and sweet.

 

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

Sorry was trying to lighten the mood  after being the one one to cause the poor mood to begin with.

 

I can try explaining my Dice read to you.

 

I mean I have itt multiple times

 

But there stuff I personally look for when reading dice.

 

One big thing is what I call the Diceyness factor.  The one post or comment that's just so.... Dicey I go yep Dices prolly Town.

 

Another is activity now wait I know Dice is always pretty on the low end but it's not so much like the number of posts it's the who what where when and why of them.

 

Is Dice sharing his thoughts Reads and takes and are they something I feel Dice ACTUALLY feels or is it something that I feel Dice knows hes supposed to feel if that makes sense, which in not sure it does to anyone but me.

 

And lastly there 1 post I freaked about Righe around EiD1 or start d2 when I was like Dice a Wolf...and it wouldn't make sense to anyone but me.

 

Sorry man but that's my take 

 

I don't feel Dice is Town....like last game he smashed all 3 Wolves basically and I know obviously that's not gonna happen each game but even the stuff he was looking for and how was posting feels off.

 

Like could I be wrong ofc.

 

Am I wrong I dunno, I don't feel that's necessarily the case

 

And with everything else said etc irt to everyone else Dice makes most sense to me 

 

It's also Dice hasn't been like pretty much lock Zander Town because Dice literally has like I'd guess 95% or better rate at reading me correctly.

 

There was also is comment about the me hammering so to speak, Cass thing where he was like, " if you hadn't I woulda " or close to that.  If just felt like not something Town Dice says.  Like to me Town Dice believes what he Believes and no matter what else until proven wrong or legit read evaluation sticks to his guns 

 

Again just my take peeps. Why I was wondering where everyone else was too.

1 minute ago, Gudrean said:

Umm this response wasn't about others it was about me proving you wrong per your own words.

Which you have yet to do 

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

Thank you

 

Oh piss off. My tone wasn't combative at all, you just didnt like being called out for poor play N1/D2. To everyone else (Until today after all the AtE and crap from half the game) I've been nothing but constructive.

 

And no, I dont feel the need to reevaluate, because everything you did during N1/Early D2 reeks. You routinely attempted to setup pre-flip lynches, you actively misrepresented what was said and ignored facts stated outright in the thread, and you generally howled for 48 hours only being saved by like 3 back-to-back crashouts.

 

As for your dice read, I dont care about your Dice case. You're explanation means nothing to me. I care about Verb and Zanders, the main people pushing him and the only even slightly town people doing so.

 

This is either GOAT tier distancing or definitely not W/W at least lololololol 

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

Thank you

 

Oh piss off. My tone wasn't combative at all, you just didnt like being called out for poor play N1/D2. To everyone else (Until today after all the AtE and crap from half the game) I've been nothing but constructive.

 

And no, I dont feel the need to reevaluate, because everything you did during N1/Early D2 reeks. You routinely attempted to setup pre-flip lynches, you actively misrepresented what was said and ignored facts stated outright in the thread, and you generally howled for 48 hours only being saved by like 3 back-to-back crashouts.

 

As for your dice read, I dont care about your Dice case. You're explanation means nothing to me. I care about Verb and Zanders, the main people pushing him and the only even slightly town people doing so.

Ah, sorry. I do apologize for the combative comment. Obviously very wrong there. 

2 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Which you have yet to do 

 

.........Verb talk me me off this please 

Just now, Zander? said:

 

This is either GOAT tier distancing or definitely not W/W at least lololololol 

Zander I've been actively trying to get Heavy lynched all day, if you think that's w/w then I dunno what to tell you.

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

This is either GOAT tier distancing or definitely not W/W at least lololololol 

 

Yeah, there is pretty much no way Lenlo and Heavy are both scum.  One can be, but not both.

3 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

 

 

Oh piss off. My tone wasn't combative at all, you just didnt like being called out for poor play N1/D2. To everyone else (Until today after all the AtE and crap from half the game) I've been nothing but constructive.

 

And no, I dont feel the need to reevaluate, because everything you did during N1/Early D2 reeks. You routinely attempted to setup pre-flip lynches, you actively misrepresented what was said and ignored facts stated outright in the thread, and you generally howled for 48 hours only being saved by like 3 back-to-back crashouts.

 

As for your dice read, I dont care about your Dice case. You're explanation means nothing to me. I care about Verb and Zanders, the main people pushing him and the only even slightly town people doing so.

your tone indeed screams combative or pissy not sure which

Just now, Lenlo said:

Zander I've been actively trying to get Heavy lynched all day, if you think that's w/w then I dunno what to tell you.

 

You remember that game where that Zander idiot and that awesome Len guy were Minority Villas together.....lolololol

 

JK but again you know at least in Zander land this is at least not impossible if highly unlikely!

1 minute ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Yeah, there is pretty much no way Lenlo and Heavy are both scum.  One can be, but not both.

 

Ya pretty much in full agreement maybe not 100% but pretty close.

Just now, Gudrean said:

your tone indeed screams combative or pissy not sure which

Yeah, I'm pissy half this thread have crashed out and the other half are useless, so I'm stuck figuring this game out on my own while 90% of the thread apparently doesnt want to play.

5 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Which you have yet to do 

what exactly am I proving you wrong of, I'm not even voting for you and told others I wasn't sold on you, so what gives bro?

 

1 minute ago, Gudrean said:

what exactly am I proving you wrong of, I'm not even voting for you and told others I wasn't sold on you, so what gives bro?

 

Lol so I should ignore you not contributing to the game because you're not voting for me? 

 

I'm asking you for a read list of everyone please 

I likes the new players gumption 

 

Not alignment indicative but I like it and I feel they both have alot of potential to become real good players as long as they CC an handle the bumpy play of some games/certain players

 

(AGAIN SORRY I YOU FELT ANYTHING I SAID WAS PERSONAL ATTACK....I CAN PROMISE IT 100% WASNT MY INTENT AT LEAST)