March 19Mar 19 19 hours ago, Verbal32 said:  Bold: agree to disagree  Blue: don't sell yourself short, my man. I remember the Myndjack days pretty well, hehe. You and your brother were both just fine.  Also, happy bday buddy.  God id forgotten Myndjack! Would love to get him back and modding.  19 hours ago, Verbal32 said:  I am aligned.  You are therefore wrong 18 hours ago, Gudrean said:  HATE THIS.  18 hours ago, Zander? said:  I don't even care what your alignment is I don't think I could ever lunch you  *Message sent from Gud's pocket*  Lololololol  Hate this even more   18 hours ago, Zander? said:  I've tried /shrug  But I read dice in my own way which likely doesn't make sense/ matter to others.  You need to reassess cause your wrong. I know I broke your brain by daring to say id lynch you but wake up please   18 hours ago, Gudrean said: I thought Cass said you guys used voice chat in the past? or was it just a typing chat thing?   wasnt game related. was a bunch of friends catching up    I had missed these in my own multiquoting last post lol
March 19Mar 19 1 minute ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said: Someone did not lie to me.  Italics, I'm pointing out this new player hate is not restricted to any one alignment. That blatantly is NAI, but you do you.  Call out does not mean personally attack. Like I say, your "wolf says what?" push on Gud is totally fair,imo. Last game I had both Z and Turin going at me and it wasn't fun, but it is the game. Attacking people personally and their game style I don't see as pushing. Attacking personally, no not ok.  Attacking playstyle, 1000000000% OK.  Mafia requires thick skin. You're trying to break people (in game) to slip up if they are scum. So as town you need to stand firm(ish) in knowing you are town so you have nothing to hide
March 19Mar 19 2 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said: Could we have a Dice, Gud, and Cairos scum team? Â And if not Dice then Turin. Someone is steering the ship. Â I really hope it isn't Lenlo but you need to have some people you believe you can trust
March 19Mar 19 RP - PLAYER 2 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said: Attacking personally, no not ok.  Attacking playstyle, 1000000000% OK.  Mafia requires thick skin. You're trying to break people (in game) to slip up if they are scum. So as town you need to stand firm(ish) in knowing you are town so you have nothing to hide We'll have to disagree. I think it should be given that everyone is trying their best. There is a difference between criticizing and attacking.  Like if I was the Vig I would never have gone for Shad, so yes criticizing Verb seems fair enough. I wouldn't cause I'm pretty sure he knows what he is doing better than me, but criticizing in-game decisions or reads or whatever is fine. Me telling a player he is a millstone around Town's neck and he is going to lose the game for us because he is a terrible player and I wish he had never come back, is obviously not OK and I cannot see that this should even be up for discussion.  But there isn't any point taking it further. All I am saying is that all this antagonism I don't see is helping anyone nor is it making it any more fun for anyone.Â
March 19Mar 19 Also don't wanna come off as a jerk here but there's stuff like this we can talk about during the night phase and or post game. Right now we gotta focus on coming up with a consensus 2 lunches today and do anything we can to find a WolfÂ
March 19Mar 19 18 hours ago, Zander? said:  Sorry was trying to lighten the mood after being the one one to cause the poor mood to begin with.  I can try explaining my Dice read to you.  I mean I have itt multiple times  But there stuff I personally look for when reading dice.  One big thing is what I call the Diceyness factor. The one post or comment that's just so.... Dicey I go yep Dices prolly Town.  Another is activity now wait I know Dice is always pretty on the low end but it's not so much like the number of posts it's the who what where when and why of them.  Is Dice sharing his thoughts Reads and takes and are they something I feel Dice ACTUALLY feels or is it something that I feel Dice knows hes supposed to feel if that makes sense, which in not sure it does to anyone but me.  And lastly there 1 post I freaked about Righe around EiD1 or start d2 when I was like Dice a Wolf...and it wouldn't make sense to anyone but me.  Sorry man but that's my take  I don't feel Dice is Town....like last game he smashed all 3 Wolves basically and I know obviously that's not gonna happen each game but even the stuff he was looking for and how was posting feels off.  Like could I be wrong ofc.  Am I wrong I dunno, I don't feel that's necessarily the case  And with everything else said etc irt to everyone else Dice makes most sense to me  Was going to ask what post it was but its now in this WoT.  You are wrong tho.  18 hours ago, Zander? said:   It's also Dice hasn't been like pretty much lock Zander Town because Dice literally has like I'd guess 95% or better rate at reading me correctly.  There was also is comment about the me hammering so to speak, Cass thing where he was like, " if you hadn't I woulda " or close to that. If just felt like not something Town Dice says. Like to me Town Dice believes what he Believes and no matter what else until proven wrong or legit read evaluation sticks to his guns  Again just my take peeps. Why I was wondering where everyone else was too.  I sat there and TOLD you I thought those posts werent Cass like. You threw out that whole I will swap in 2 mins AS I WAS POSTING that i was willing to change. Then you changed ONE WHOLE MINUTE after you said youd be willing to in two minutes.  Wake up before you cost town this game.  And I dont HAVE to sit there and say I think lovely Zander is Town all the time! If your scum you KNOW im after you from early on. If im not pushing for you to die then doesnt it follow that ive seen your town? If you need me to say your town every game then youre going to be REALLY disappointed cause im not doing it anymore and ive been sick and tired of you mislynching me for not saying  And remember, if I was scum? Itd normally be one of the first things i did and id make SURE to do it just to keep you off me..  1 minute ago, ReleaseTheEvil said: Could we have a Dice, Gud, and Cairos scum team?  No cause im not scum. Im seriously starting to consider Gud tho
March 19Mar 19 Just now, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said: We'll have to disagree. I think it should be given that everyone is trying their best. There is a difference between criticizing and attacking.  Like if I was the Vig I would never have gone for Shad, so yes criticizing Verb seems fair enough. I wouldn't cause I'm pretty sure he knows what he is doing better than me, but criticizing in-game decisions or reads or whatever is fine. Me telling a player he is a millstone around Town's neck and he is going to lose the game for us because he is a terrible player and I wish he had never come back, is obviously not OK and I cannot see that this should even be up for discussion.  But there isn't any point taking it further. All I am saying is that all this antagonism I don't see is helping anyone nor is it making it any more fun for anyone.  But do you think everyone in this game is trying their best? I certainly do not.  Don't feel like you can't criticize someone because they know what they are doing better than you. People might not believe you but it doesn't mean you are wrong or that you can't. Mafia rep is built over time as well and this is only your second game  I think some of what you wrote about Lenlo said is interpretation rather than his words. Sure it's harsh but unfair? Meh. It's playing the game though.  I don't know if mafia always is fun. I think more worrying than the antagonising is I think most of this is very town on town so again hence me thinking scum team are sitting back pretty not getting their hands so dirty
March 19Mar 19 27 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said: That would be me. Players have autonomy over their own game. They can choose to give explanations. They can choose to ask or answer questions. They can only post memes or go full Hodor! and only post their vote.  The interpretation of their choices? That's a whole other kettle of fish.  IthiGOAT 💜Â
March 19Mar 19 1 minute ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:  But do you think everyone in this game is trying their best? I certainly do not.  Don't feel like you can't criticize someone because they know what they are doing better than you. People might not believe you but it doesn't mean you are wrong or that you can't. Mafia rep is built over time as well and this is only your second game  I think some of what you wrote about Lenlo said is interpretation rather than his words. Sure it's harsh but unfair? Meh. It's playing the game though.  I don't know if mafia always is fun. I think more worrying than the antagonising is I think most of this is very town on town so again hence me thinking scum team are sitting back pretty not getting their hands so dirty I rather have Lenlo be mean rather than inactive. If he gets lynched or killed we have all his posts to go over to analyse based on his flip.  What do we have if Cairos dies?
March 19Mar 19 24 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said: Surprised you think wolves would push inactivity. I suspect they would be the ones hanging back while town decimate each other. Or is this the whole policy lynches are bad thing and that's an easy push hence why I've been called scummy for trying to get the poorer/quieter players to do more?  Maybe should said both I suppose. I just Villas tend to complain about inactivity unless it's uncommon of that player. Wolves always look for easy possible reads they can push lolololololÂ
March 19Mar 19 24 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said: If the low activity is Town, then would they not be considered LHF? One more mislynch to Wolf victory?  Yes in this instance but also some players don't like playing Wolf and or find it hard and will post less to try and not get caught or give stuff away especially if they're not confident WolvesÂ
March 19Mar 19 24 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said: *clutches pearls*  Gasp!  * adds RTE to the 3rd Party Solo player list  Yes you show that Wolfy SOAB GOATess Moddess!!!!!  Lolololol
March 19Mar 19 24 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:        Its AtE. It has nothing to do with his game play. Why cant you just ignore it and go on his actual gameplay? I  What happens when you find out he is wrong?  What are you going to do or say when you lynch me and I flip Town? Cause thats whats going to happen    Yes. It is.   alright lets hear it. Tell me how im playing differently and dont mention activity. Cause thats actually the only difference.  So you answer me then i will tell you how youre wrong.    But seriously ill apologize if I'm wrong bro but sorry not feeling ATP like not at all not a bit.
March 19Mar 19 12 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said: We'll have to disagree. I think it should be given that everyone is trying their best. There is a difference between criticizing and attacking.  Like if I was the Vig I would never have gone for Shad, so yes criticizing Verb seems fair enough. I wouldn't cause I'm pretty sure he knows what he is doing better than me, but criticizing in-game decisions or reads or whatever is fine. Me telling a player he is a millstone around Town's neck and he is going to lose the game for us because he is a terrible player and I wish he had never come back, is obviously not OK and I cannot see that this should even be up for discussion.  But there isn't any point taking it further. All I am saying is that all this antagonism I don't see is helping anyone nor is it making it any more fun for anyone.  Vig 101 says Verb should have shot RTE.  Vig 101 isnt alewaysd followed. sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt
March 19Mar 19 Just now, Zander? said: Â Â Â But seriously ill apologize if I'm wrong bro but sorry not feeling ATP like not at all not a bit. Â Start writing your apology.
March 19Mar 19 Out of game  Right just a reminder.  On DM you need to watch your language please. Things like p*ssy dont go in these threads please. In my catch up ive already seen 2 of these.  Mafia is a word game, so be creative.
March 19Mar 19 30 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said: If everyone was the same, how dull this life would be 🙂  Imagine a World filled with nothin but Zanders......    LOLOLOLOLOLOLÂ
March 19Mar 19 Just now, Zander? said: Â Imagine a World filled with nothin but Zanders...... Â Â Â LOLOLOLOLOLOLÂ Â
March 19Mar 19 18 hours ago, Verbal32 said:  We can't take the time to policy lynch anybody who got upset and/or self-voted. A line needs to be drawn and followed. I think in most cases what RTE did comes from a townie and not scum. I know that's part of my own policy, but it's where I'm drawing a line. Heavy sorta falls in there, too, but is a new player so I am trying to be more loose in my interpretation there.  Disagree. Ive seen it done as scum.  Ive also purposely started arguments as scum because i knew that was something people looked for from me as town.
March 19Mar 19 18 hours ago, Lenlo said: Survivor will forever be my favorite role  Doc for me  17 hours ago, Gudrean said: Me - plainsville town Verb - vig Zander - watcher Lenlo - mad at me for voting for him - might not be wolfy but hey that's what I feel and i'm sticking to it RTE - thought he was wolf on D1 due to questions, seems too defensive to be - but maybe that's the plan Turin - has changed his vibe in last 2 games per experienced players but not AI - seems to be asking the right questions for a townie Cairos - been super nice except when having to defend himself - low possible wolf Heavy - could be wolf - has asked some questions throughout that seem like wolfy inquiring Dice - think he's been quieter and different, has a lot of good points tho - likely wolf  top reads for wolf/lynch: (not in order of %) lenlo dice cairos   maybes: heavy turin rte  nopes: verb zander me  So you think ive had a lot of good points but think im scum. Wha??  @zander Im seriosuly starting to think your gonna be heart broken
March 19Mar 19 19 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said: Out of game  Right just a reminder.  On DM you need to watch your language please. Things like p*ssy dont go in these threads please. In my catch up ive already seen 2 of these.  Mafia is a word game, so be creative.  Maybe in wrong put I think they're using pissy like at least on the correct side of the world and in current time not the future if someone's acting mean hateful etc we sometimes say someone's acting pissy which I now see my phone tries to autocorrect the I to a U LOLOLOLOLÂ
March 19Mar 19 11 hours ago, Gudrean said: how can you hate that which you can't see?  Cause its CENA!!  11 hours ago, Zander? said:  MAMI IS ALWAYS ON TOP!!!!!  YES CENA ON THE STICK GOAT LEVEL but hate him as a wrestler and character.  Leelou and Nyn lol  Oh god! Dont tell Nyn I forgot her!!  Not sure if i played a leelou modded game or not   Just now, Zander? said:  Maybe in wrong put I think they're using pissy like at least on the correct side of the world and in current time not the future if someone's acting mean hateful etc we sometimes say someone's acting pissy which I now see my phone tries to autocorrect the I to a U LOLOLOLOL  Doesnt matter. Dont.Â
March 19Mar 19 4 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:  Doc for me   So you think ive had a lot of good points but think im scum. Wha??  @zander Im seriosuly starting to think your gonna be heart broken  Honestly atp I'm so spun around I have everything equally likely so perhaps. I barely trust myself and feel confident to try and read the kids puzzle on the cereal box ATM LOLOLOLOLÂ
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