They went Zander over Verbal. Guess Zander still had a usable ability. 

 

And was most active of course. This game has taken and turn and not for the better 

Official Vote Count

 

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Heavy, Lenlo, RTE, Turin, Verbal 

 

4 to Lynch

 

This is a Hammer/Deadline Hybrid Game. If a Majority is achieved the Lynch should be treated as instantaneous. I will confirm as soon as I can.

 

If no Majory is achieved, whoever has the most votes as Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide between the players on the Lead Trains. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

 

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Edited March 21Mar 21 by Ithillian Turambar

We really are the town that couldn't shoot straight.

 

Funny scene Ithi.  

2 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

We really are the town that couldn't shoot straight.

 

Funny scene Ithi.  

Yes that was a great scene Ithi.

RIP Zander.

 

It was a great scene Ithi, a fitting send off for such a noble player.

 

So, a new day, a new person to throw in the airlock.

 

Way I see it - everyone on Dice is sus. If we truly are at a point where we aren't getting a train on a wolf at all we are in trouble. I know I am town, and Zander and Verbal were, makes me tend to believe Gud is as well. So that is 4 players, 3 wolves, in all likelihood.

 

Cairos I am sus of. His quick popping in to vote for Dice gave off ill vibes. Not "OMG who are we going to choose, it's so uncertain, here are my thoughts on catching up however brief" but more like "just read wolf chat, vote Dice, k thx bye". Not a lot to go on, but compared to Turin, "I'm reading the whole thread again, ih8u all especially Zander" is giving me Town vibes. I admit this could be influenced by his Town read of me, but it just seems that the most obvious thing is he is town rather than elaborately play acting. Though that is certainly not impossible.

 

Which leaves RTE and Lenlo, our dyed in the wool wolves. Don't think there can be any doubt about these two really. But I vote for Lenlo first and we'll see how things play out. 

 

One of the most convincing things is Lenlo's desire to win - yet he shows no empathy or encouragement for his town "teammates". He shows no frustration or remorse at being intimately involved in the attempts to eliminate Town players including those that succeeded. If we believe his desire to win, we can only see that reflected in his willingness to derail, distract and eliminate Town players for his victory.

 

The alternative of thinking we have had it all wrong all game and randomly picking someone and hoping I don't think is a workable strategy.

 

VOTE LENLO

Official Vote Count

 

LENLO - 1 (Heavy)

 

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Lenlo, RTE, Turin, Verbal 

 

4 to Lynch

 

This is a Hammer/Deadline Hybrid Game. If a Majority is achieved the Lynch should be treated as instantaneous. I will confirm as soon as I can.

 

If no Majory is achieved, whoever has the most votes as Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide between the players on the Lead Trains. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

 

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Here is where I'm at starting the day. Willing to vote from most to least.

 

RTE: I treat the drama as outside the game and null. My opinion is he has been the most sus throughout the game.

LENLO: Some of the arguments felt a bit flailing, but at other times he has made good points.

 

 

Have to look cause 3 mafia 

 

CAIROS: Quiet but reasonable when has given stances. Still need more. Are you back from holiday?

GUDREAN: This qualifies as tinfoil.  She feels town so I'm tipping my cap if she is the mafia. 

 

Pretty sure not voting here

HEAVY: I really think he has shown town PoV with only a few exceptions. 

 

LOCK CLEAR

VERB: town vig confirmed. 

Vote Turin

 

Scum team has an experienced leader. It isn't verbal. It wasn't dice. And I'm desperately hoping it isn't Lenlo. 

Official Vote Count

 

LENLO - 1 (Heavy)

TURIN - 1 (RTE)

 

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Lenlo, Turin, Verbal 

 

4 to Lynch

 

This is a Hammer/Deadline Hybrid Game. If a Majority is achieved the Lynch should be treated as instantaneous. I will confirm as soon as I can.

 

If no Majory is achieved, whoever has the most votes as Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide between the players on the Lead Trains. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

 

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Heavy, I think it's likely we have a similar  view in that most likely  wolf team is RTE, Lenlo  and ???. I think Cairos is more likely than Gudrean,  and definitely  more than you. I remember some things with Cairos and RTE. I definitely remember RTE following Lenlo's posts and agreeing quite a bit. 

 

I should probably read the thread again.  At least day 2. I kinda don't want to though because all the drama. Maybe in the morning.  Not doing it tonight.

 

Not gonna put a second vote on yet, and kinda request you to UNVOTE at least until everyone checks in as I think you are town and if Lenlo is town, mafia could pile on to hammer and win.

We should  really talk before voting. This is for the game.

2 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Vote Turin

 

Scum team has an experienced leader. It isn't verbal. It wasn't dice. And I'm desperately hoping it isn't Lenlo. 

Why do you think that mafia has an experienced leader? And aren't YOU an experienced player?

 

I'm town so please remove your vote. Or don't and throw the game away. We don't deserve to win anyway. 

Spoiler

But I still want to

 

3 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Heavy, I think it's likely we have a similar  view in that most likely  wolf team is RTE, Lenlo  and ???. I think Cairos is more likely than Gudrean,  and definitely  more than you. I remember some things with Cairos and RTE. I definitely remember RTE following Lenlo's posts and agreeing quite a bit. 

 

I should probably read the thread again.  At least day 2. I kinda don't want to though because all the drama. Maybe in the morning.  Not doing it tonight.

 

Not gonna put a second vote on yet, and kinda request you to UNVOTE at least until everyone checks in as I think you are town and if Lenlo is town, mafia could pile on to hammer and win.

We should  really talk before voting. This is for the game.

Don't disagree - fair enough on the voting. I certainly don't have you at lock clear, and of course, the smallest error now we end up losing. Even if we assume that all three wolves voted for Dice, it would still be so easy to end up voting for the only town given wolves can so easily nudge our aim.

 

UNVOTE

 

grumble grumble.

Vote Heavy

 

RTE is off the table because of Verb, so I'm going back to the easiest read I've had all game.

3 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Why do you think that mafia has an experienced leader? And aren't YOU an experienced player?

 

I'm town so please remove your vote. Or don't and throw the game away. We don't deserve to win anyway. 

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But I still want to

 

If RTE is a wolf, that won't happen... hmm, interesting mind games involved there.

1 minute ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Don't disagree - fair enough on the voting. I certainly don't have you at lock clear, and of course, the smallest error now we end up losing. Even if we assume that all three wolves voted for Dice, it would still be so easy to end up voting for the only town given wolves can so easily nudge our aim.

 

UNVOTE

 

grumble grumble.

Man, look how quick he is to crumble/appear helpful. If you truly believed I was a wolf as strongly as you claim, why would you ever do this. 

Len, what part of talk before vote did you not get? 

 

Verb is one voice. Granted he is the only confirmed townie,  but I think that tha meltdowns are out of game and thus not to be used in game.

1 minute ago, Turin Turambar said:

Len, what part of talk before vote did you not get? 

 

Verb is one voice. Granted he is the only confirmed townie,  but I think that tha meltdowns are out of game and thus not to be used in game.

The part where I'm positive Heavy is a wolf, and they won't be hammering their own teammates. 

2 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

Man, look how quick he is to crumble/appear helpful. If you truly believed I was a wolf as strongly as you claim, why would you ever do this. 

I grumbled, not crumbled.

 

What Turin says makes sense - I'm not loosening my suspicion of you, but if someone follows my lead and makes an early vote and town votes for town, the three wolves can immediately make the hammer fall before any second thoughts are possible. And it is not just a guaranteed miselimination, but game over so it doesn't matter how obvious it would be.

It all depends on how highly you view a town victory. As I explained above, it really doesn't seem like you do.

Official Vote Count

 

TURIN - 1 (RTE)

HEAVY - 1 (Lenlo)

 

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Turin, Verbal, Heavy

 

4 to Lynch

 

This is a Hammer/Deadline Hybrid Game. If a Majority is achieved the Lynch should be treated as instantaneous. I will confirm as soon as I can.

 

If no Majory is achieved, whoever has the most votes as Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide between the players on the Lead Trains. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

 

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Edited March 22Mar 22 by Ithillian Turambar

Just now, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

It all depends on how highly you view a town victory. As I explained above, it really doesn't seem like you do.

Yes, you've explained it poorly, with spurious reasoning multiple times. Personally, I'm certain at this point as to what you are, and I'm very confident that no wolves are going to be swooping out of the rafters to hammer their teammate. To me, your unvote feels less like you're confident in what I am, and more like you want to appear considerate. Because if you were as certain I'm a wolf as you claim, like I am on you, there'd be no reason to fear a sudden hammer. 

8 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

The part where I'm positive Heavy is a wolf, and they won't be hammering their own teammates. 

And your willing to bet the game on that? All I'm asking for is let's get everyone else here before we start voting and risking the game. 

Lenlo,  who are your other two mafia?

3 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

Yes, you've explained it poorly, with spurious reasoning multiple times. Personally, I'm certain at this point as to what you are, and I'm very confident that no wolves are going to be swooping out of the rafters to hammer their teammate. To me, your unvote feels less like you're confident in what I am, and more like you want to appear considerate. Because if you were as certain I'm a wolf as you claim, like I am on you, there'd be no reason to fear a sudden hammer. 

And equally, you know you are a wolf so that isn't going to happen. 

 

And let's take the reverse, if you think I want to appear considerate, surely that means you want to appear inconsiderate?

1 minute ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

And equally, you know you are a wolf so that isn't going to happen. 

 

And let's take the reverse, if you think I want to appear considerate, surely that means you want to appear inconsiderate?

That's not how that logic works, at all. Just because a square is a rectangle does not mean a rectangle is a square. Is this the logic you've been applying in the rest of the game? 

 

2 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Lenlo,  who are your other two mafia?

Heavy/RTE/Cairos, but RTE is made more difficult by Verb not being willing to vote him. And yes, I am willing to bet the game on it, I've been confident of what Heavy is for the past week.