2 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Vote with me Gud and let's try to steal this game for town 

I am greatly considering it.

1 minute ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

No it's the lack of clarity of your posts I'm afraid. 

 

Anyways you can also vote Turin and let's catch our first wolf 

Sounds like a winning formula. Ignore the wolf I'm 100% certain about and vote for the most tenuous of my suspicions. I'm totally down with that. 

19 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

And like verbal said if you weren't scum it would be game over by now 

No. Because your teammates only make 3. You need a townie to jump. 

 

Nice try. Next.

9 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

After reading Verbs posts from last night and all of this mornings and going back to early votes I'm starting to think it's Turin, Lenlo, Cairos.

Can't be sure but my overall gut says Turin has been too nice, Lenlo postings in the beginning just gave me wolf vibes and Cairos has been quiet and pretty much exactly like last game where he was a wolf.

Why choose Cairos over RTE? 

3 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

No. Because your teammates only make 3. You need a townie to jump. 

 

Nice try. Next.

You're so cute when you're scum. 

 

You're much more grumpy as town. I knew early on something was wrong this game. I said as much very early. 

8 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Anyways you can also vote Turin and let's catch our first wolf 

Which if Turin is Town means we lose. Meh. 

2 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

You're so cute when you're scum. 

 

You're much more grumpy as town. I knew early on something was wrong this game. I said as much very early. 

Wait wait wait. You just claimed you and Lenlo didn't remember Z spamming, but you remember this about Turin? 

 

Make it make sense, wolf. 

20 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Yes you do. As you explained. As VerbL explained. 

 

If you were both Town, that would leave three wolves to jump on the vote and we would lose. We haven't lost, ergo there aren't three wolves to jump on the vote as one wolf (at least) is involved in the vote. I'm in exactly the same situation. Lenlo is voting for me. If we were both town it would be game over. I know I'm town, so he must, 100%, no doubt, be a wolf. 

 

You should have had the same the experience if you were Town. Why don't you see this despite explaining the no vote thing in the first place? 

I tried to explain this. There are no absolutes in mafia.  I can be sure in my head that something is true. I could be WRONG. I said before townies do dumb things. This game has loads of evidence. Could RTE have played this sketchy as town? Maybe, but I doubt it. I do still HAVE to take that small possibility into account. I've learned from many many times of being wrong about people that just because I believe doesn't make ita FACT. These things are all my opinions. Only the mafia know who the mafia are. I am using my best inferences and experience to try to come to conclusions. 

Old me would probably be trolling theabsolute stuffing out of RTE right now because I'm so confident I'm right but there is no point in it. So I've said my thoughts. Accept them or not. Ask more questions if you must. I'll answer them to the best of my ability. 

2 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Wait wait wait. You just claimed you and Lenlo didn't remember Z spamming, but you remember this about Turin? 

 

Make it make sense, wolf. 

There's spamming and there's spamming. 

 

Zander agreed and posted more considerately afterwards 

Just now, Turin Turambar said:

I tried to explain this. There are no absolutes in mafia.  I can be sure in my head that something is true. I could be WRONG. I said before townies do dumb things. This game has loads of evidence. Could RTE have played this sketchy as town? Maybe, but I doubt it. I do still HAVE to take that small possibility into account. I've learned from many many times of being wrong about people that just because I believe doesn't make ita FACT. These things are all my opinions. Only the mafia know who the mafia are. I am using my best inferences and experience to try to come to conclusions. 

Old me would probably be trolling theabsolute stuffing out of RTE right now because I'm so confident I'm right but there is no point in it. So I've said my thoughts. Accept them or not. Ask more questions if you must. I'll answer them to the best of my ability. 

If RTE was town, why would the three wolves not have hammered you? We aren't talking suspicions. We are talking objective fact. At least one of you is a wolf, or the wolves don't want to win, or something like Cairos cannot make it online at a set time so they are waiting, but seems unlikely. And we will lose as soon as they are online at the same time. 

4 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

There's spamming and there's spamming. 

And then there is the most villagy villager that has ever villaged. 

 

Nice try, wolf. 

2 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

And then there is the most villagy villager that has ever villaged. 

 

Nice try, wolf. 

Listen heavy. This is cute and all.

 

But Turin is a wolf and can unlock the game. Or we Mislynch and lose the game. You can help decide 

19 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

After reading Verbs posts from last night and all of this mornings and going back to early votes I'm starting to think it's Turin, Lenlo, Cairos.

Can't be sure but my overall gut says Turin has been too nice, Lenlo postings in the beginning just gave me wolf vibes and Cairos has been quiet and pretty much exactly like last game where he was a wolf.

I'm too nice? Both you and Heavy had meltdowns last game ( and to a lesser extent this game) and are new. We are trying to build a player base. I'm trying to give support to you both. Also trying to show how you can sort through the "stuff" that happens in this game, and highlighting when you are doing things well. Take it as you will. 

 

/rant

Where is Cairos BTW? I have been on a holiday with family all weekend. I have literally been posting from a beach and climbing a hill trying to find another way back to the car. What's his excuse? 

 

I'm really going to be annoyed if he is scum. Like he's just not playing the game and waiting to come in and hammer a townie and win the game for his team

 

Real life happens but we have committed to playing this game. If you can't play then ask to be subbed. This isn't fair 

17 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

You're so cute when you're scum. 

 

You're much more grumpy as town. I knew early on something was wrong this game. I said as much very early. 

Again. I said I was going to try to play nicer. I was called mean more than once last game. This is a game where everyone is either new or returning from a layoff.  If you get me ejected,  you win. Congratulations. 

Lenlo is a wolf. Absolutely guaranteed. Let's go for him and keep an eye on Turin. 

 

And let's face it, you are a wolf too. You've backed up Lenlo throughout the game. I've been thinking about and this is a hill I'm willing to die on. If we lose because you have fished, recommended policy eliminations, backed up a definite wolf from his very first post, gaslighted Z so he derailed the entire thread, were involved in eliminating several townies... Yeah I can live with that. And so should any town player, IMHO. 

11 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

If RTE was town, why would the three wolves not have hammered you? We aren't talking suspicions. We are talking objective fact. At least one of you is a wolf, or the wolves don't want to win, or something like Cairos cannot make it online at a set time so they are waiting, but seems unlikely. And we will lose as soon as they are online at the same time. 

this may be the only thing holding them back

2 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Where is Cairos BTW? I have been on a holiday with family all weekend. I have literally been posting from a beach and climbing a hill trying to find another way back to the car. What's his excuse? 

 

I'm really going to be annoyed if he is scum. Like he's just not playing the game and waiting to come in and hammer a townie and win the game for his team

 

Real life happens but we have committed to playing this game. If you can't play then ask to be subbed. This isn't fair 

Spoken like a mafia afraid to vote a townie for low post count. Or maybe just wanting to look like he is pushing a teammate but not really doing it.

1 minute ago, Gudrean said:

this may be the only thing holding them back

It seems unlikely. RTE is sure that Turin is a wolf. If Cairos joined him, even if he was town he would be happy. He wouldn't back off. Otherwise he would have backed off when Turin and Verbal pointed out the danger. It is possible what you are saying, but the chances of it are vanishingly small. 

I'm fine with a Lenlo vote if that's what it takes to get to RTE.  

 

But then Heavy has to be the counter train. 

Evidence 

5 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

I'm too nice? Both you and Heavy had meltdowns last game ( and to a lesser extent this game) and are new. We are trying to build a player base. I'm trying to give support to you both. Also trying to show how you can sort through the "stuff" that happens in this game, and highlighting when you are doing things well. Take it as you will. 

 

/rant

"damned if i do and damned if i don't" is not a meltdown if i'm to be considering the ACTUAL meltdowns in this game, so I don't believe I have had any meltdowns sir. But I do appreciate your mentory help in both games 😊

Spoiler

even if you are a wolf   

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maybe you're not    

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maybe you are tho

 

 

 

Can't remember any meltdowns for me in the last game tho, at least not in the thread 🤣

Sorry for not being around. RL stuff does happen. Been in the hospital after coming back from NYC and still in the hospital. 

Just now, Turin Turambar said:

I'm fine with a Lenlo vote if that's what it takes to get to RTE.  

 

But then Heavy has to be the counter train. 

As long as everyone town votes Lenlo, that is fine. Don't understand why I have to be a counter train, unless you mean Lenlo is already voting for me. 

6 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Lenlo is a wolf. Absolutely guaranteed. Let's go for him and keep an eye on Turin. 

 

And let's face it, you are a wolf too. You've backed up Lenlo throughout the game. I've been thinking about and this is a hill I'm willing to die on. If we lose because you have fished, recommended policy eliminations, backed up a definite wolf from his very first post, gaslighted Z so he derailed the entire thread, were involved in eliminating several townies... Yeah I can live with that. And so should any town player, IMHO. 

You don't make sense. If I am town how do I know I sided with a wolf? And how many townie have this game considering we haven't found a wolf? Why am I any more culpable than anyone else? I didn't gaslight Zander and I am sure he would say the same.