10 minutes ago, Cairos said:

VOTE DICE

I’ll be around for DL! I agree with you Zander on Dice. And since you and verb are confirmed town, I’ll follow one of you guys on the lynch. I believe RTE is not mafia and is town. I’ll post more in a bit after I wake up. I have to reread 10 pages. 

 

This makes me worried about what Dice will flip, but either way is an informative vote when/if the dust settles about Dice's alignment.

 

I feel like I can't vote Lenlo because 95% of his posts have resonated with me. If he's a wolf so be it but I hope and feel he is town, otherwise is my reasoning all along wolfy if he's a wolf?!

I also don't quite understand where the Lenlo train has come from. Is it because he's been mean to the noobs? When has he looked wolfy?

 

I think he levelled similar criticism to me against Zander early but has let that go ages ago, much before Zander's reveal. So why Lenlo for wolf?

Official Vote Count

 

RTE - 2 (Dice, Turin)

HEAVY - 1 (Lenlo)

DICE - 3 (Zander, RTE, Cairos)

LENLO - 3 (Gudrean, Heavy, Verbal)

 

Not Voting: 

 

This is a Deadline Game. This means whoever has the most votes as Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide between the players on the Lead Trains. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

 

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5 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

 

Lenlo claims that he didn't fill the thread with pointless NAI argument early on, even though everyone saw him and Zander do so.

Not what I said. What I said was that I didn't push Zander on a joke, he blew it out of proportion. I know I clapped back, there's no denying that, its in the thread. So, another point for misrepresenting what happened in this game.

 

5 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

Claims he isn't combat e while telling me to "piss off" for trying to help.

"Trying to help", you were actively insulting me.

 

5 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Claims I make stuff up, misrepresent everything and just am a terrible player, yet also sees this as an argument to lynch me.

Well yes, making things up and misrepresenting things are wolf tactics, used by wolves to feed bad information to town and get them to mislynch people so wolves can win the game. I never called you a terrible player, I said your actions were indicative of wolfy behavior, which is no different from what you've done to me. But apparently when I do it, I'm an asshole, because god forbid I hold you to task for what you've said in game.

 

 

Appreciate this could be a frustration speaking but let's steer away from any words/terms that might go against the PG13 DM CoC 

 

I don't want this game to go down a dark path again please 🙂

Edited March 19Mar 19 by Ithillian Turambar

2 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Also it is worthwhile pointing  out that both Lenlo and RTE are having a go at Gudrean while also recommending we lynch her. 

Except I'm not? I'm not voting her nor have I pushed a lynch on her? Why are you so consistently incapable of reporting whats actually going on in thread?

 

2 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

Yet if she is wolf, she isn't a millstone around anyone's neck, and she isn't playing bad, she has beguiled the two lock clear players, is having fun, lighting up the chat and making Town work hard to lay any hard suspicion on her. 

"Beguiled" my guy, Zander lock cleared her from her first post, if she's wolf she won before she even had to do anything. "Work hard to cast suspicion on her" yeah, not actively participating much makes that difficult.

 

2 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

She cannot be a wolf and a terrible town player. 

Yes, that is how mutual exclusion of roles works.

lol just noticed the votes. I guess calling out mediocre play is what switches huh? Man those dice reads must not have been very strong at all from y'all.

8 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

lol just noticed the votes. I guess calling out mediocre play is what switches huh? Man those dice reads must not have been very strong at all from y'all.

I thought Turin's Dice case was good?

Yeah sure UNVOTE VOTE DICE

 

I know I'm town and I'm not gonna let people who find it "rude" that they are being pressured stop me from figuring this stuff out. I'll be around at EoD, but obviously I'm not going to vote myself so I don't imagine it'll do much for you Zander

Just now, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I thought Turin's Dice case was good?

They were fine, I was happy to get them. I was joking about how they suddenly switched the moment I finally started vocalizing my frustrations with people. 

Official Vote Count

 

RTE - 2 (Dice, Turin)

DICE - 4 (Zander, RTE, Cairos, Lenlo)

LENLO - 3 (Gudrean, Heavy, Verbal)

 

Not Voting: 

 

This is a Deadline Game. This means whoever has the most votes as Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide between the players on the Lead Trains. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

 

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I don't understand your vitriol. With Zander you were both clearly calling each other wolfy for calling the other wolfy for calling the wolfy etc ad infinitum. You also both did the "I'm leaving this argument alone, only a wolf would continue" while also finding it very difficult to actually walk away. I don't understand what motivated it, but it clearly was initiated by you. Even if it was town on town collateral damage, it doesn't change what actually happened. 

 

I am not aware that I have actively insulted anyone. I have said I don't like your tone, as you appear very defensive and combative. If I did cross any lines when I was spiralling hard into frustration, I sincerely apologise. 

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but you have asking why Gud gets a free pass and why people aren't voting for her. If I'm confusing you with RTE, again I apologise but you have made several long posts about Gudrean and to say you are not giving her the finger of suspicion because your are not actively and solely trying to have her lynched seems to be splitting hairs. 

 

I don't think attacking each other is going to help resolve anything. 

 

Is there anything I can do to ease your suspicions of me? 

 

 

1 hour ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Not sure I understand this level of conviction but I think I'm grateful and as Town I am not worried

 

It's definitely not conviction.  It's if you did what you did as a Wolf I'd never play another game you were in.  It's not something that should be done at all, I know i did too and shouldn't have, difference being I still ensured it didn't effect game integrity because my claim cleared me prior.  Like for example had I been a Wolf and was that frustrated like I was this game ..id have broke my phone before posting if that makes sense so it wouldn't effect the outcome of the game.  Thasy why Verb said what he said and I did and alot of other players feel the same way.

1 hour ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Not necessarily, but I feel better about this train than any other.  That said, I'll consolidate if it makes sense.

 

I'll do the same.  If you feel more solid about Lenlo I will follow you.  It's not like I have a differing read on Lenlo, it's only I felt stronger about Dice then Lenlo because I know/read Dice better then I do Lenlo.  But I also know you know Dice too and if you think Lenlo makes more sense than Dice I'll follow you on it.

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

It's definitely not conviction.  It's if you did what you did as a Wolf I'd never play another game you were in.  It's not something that should be done at all, I know i did too and shouldn't have, difference being I still ensured it didn't effect game integrity because my claim cleared me prior.  Like for example had I been a Wolf and was that frustrated like I was this game ..id have broke my phone before posting if that makes sense so it wouldn't effect the outcome of the game.  Thasy why Verb said what he said and I did and alot of other players feel the same way.

Sure, I mean I was at least 60% less dramatic and all caps about it compared to you but double standards are fine I guess 😛

Just now, Zander? said:

 

I'll do the same.  If you feel more solid about Lenlo I will follow you.  It's not like I have a differing read on Lenlo, it's only I felt stronger about Dice then Lenlo because I know/read Dice better then I do Lenlo.  But I also know you know Dice too and if you think Lenlo makes more sense than Dice I'll follow you on it.

 

I know you're clear Town and so is Verbal but this seems like you have very weak reads if you're so willing to flip flop on such a crucial lynch. This is not a good game for you either

1 minute ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I don't understand your vitriol. With Zander you were both clearly calling each other wolfy for calling the other wolfy for calling the wolfy etc ad infinitum. You also both did the "I'm leaving this argument alone, only a wolf would continue" while also finding it very difficult to actually walk away.

I never said the bold, why are you finding it so consistently difficult to repeat what actually happened in the thread? How am I not supposed to find this blatant lying about events to be wolfy? 

 

1 minute ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

I don't understand what motivated it, but it clearly was initiated by you. Even if it was town on town collateral damage, it doesn't change what actually happened. 

Yeah, what happened was I said "Bad joke bro" and then half the thread went "You think thats a bad joke? Why are you pushing him bro".

 

1 minute ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but you have asking why Gud gets a free pass and why people aren't voting for her. If I'm confusing you with RTE, again I apologise but you have made several long posts about Gudrean and to say you are not giving her the finger of suspicion because your are not actively and solely trying to have her lynched seems to be splitting hairs. 

I'm asking why people aren't pressuring her/thinking about her at all. I never asked why people weren't voting her, that's obvious.

 

Just now, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

I know you're clear Town and so is Verbal but this seems like you have very weak reads if you're so willing to flip flop on such a crucial lynch. This is not a good game for you either

Dont worry, Zander will find a way to blame any resulting defeat on everyone else while taking all credit for any victory.

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

Dont worry, Zander will find a way to blame any resulting defeat on everyone else while taking all credit for any victory.

 

He is having just as much a poor Town game as anyone else (though he made a better decision than Verb with his ability I guess) but is still speaking in absolutes and saying how bad everyone else is playing

12 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

Yeah sure UNVOTE VOTE DICE

 

I know I'm town and I'm not gonna let people who find it "rude" that they are being pressured stop me from figuring this stuff out. I'll be around at EoD, but obviously I'm not going to vote myself so I don't imagine it'll do much for you Zander

 

TBF I feel more strongly about Dice but kinda feels like I've been off all game.  I might just sleep Verb as I haven't read you town but like I'm not fully there yet tho will do for consolidation purposes to ensure no random 

 

Anyone in wrong on I'm sorry best I can do is apologize post game and try to learn to read them better.

 

If you're Town and the lunch I'll definitely start believing you're on to something.

 

I know your three but do me a favor if you're a Villa, pick your 2 strongest Wolves outta Gud, Heavy, Cairos and pick a 3 Rd exp player that's be there partner say if magically the remaining out of Gud Heavy Cairos was mod cleared.  And why that would make connective sense to you please man 

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

TBF I feel more strongly about Dice but kinda feels like I've been off all game.  I might just sleep Verb as I haven't read you town but like I'm not fully there yet tho will do for consolidation purposes to ensure no random 

 

Anyone in wrong on I'm sorry best I can do is apologize post game and try to learn to read them better.

 

If you're Town and the lunch I'll definitely start believing you're on to something.

 

I know your three but do me a favor if you're a Villa, pick your 2 strongest Wolves outta Gud, Heavy, Cairos and pick a 3 Rd exp player that's be there partner say if magically the remaining out of Gud Heavy Cairos was mod cleared.  And why that would make connective sense to you please man 

 

But there is no random right now?

7 minutes ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Sure, I mean I was at least 60% less dramatic and all caps about it compared to you but double standards are fine I guess 😛

 

You were but 100% not double standards or close to the same situation.  Like not even same ballpark.  People blatantly lied about what I said about them and threatened to not play again and I felt like I was ruining not only Ithis great game which is horrible enough but possibly DM becoming a real thing again and kinda popped my top.  You weren't being accused of lies, not in the same position nor did you know you had the claim and made sure to use it first cause I was just gonna claim self vote and bail but when I saw the false accusations I lost it.

 

Not at all the same.

1 minute ago, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

But there is no random right now?

 

If the trains end tied at DL there will be.