19 minutes ago, Walker012 said:

I would like to resurrect a dead thread and this seems like a place to do it!

 

 

 

Perrin was wearing armor in the preview for next week's episode and I friggin' hated it!

 

Having read the above thread my rationale for an armorless Perrin is as follows:

 

He is big. He is fast. He is perceptive to a supernatural degree (thank you, wolves). He is smart (yes I know he continually says he is slow and methodical, but there is a reason he generally says this right before someone looks at him in horror and goes "how did you catch that?"). And he has a (not controlled) supernatural ability to pull the pattern of reality to help him or hinder others.

 

And in the TV show he absolutely DOES go into a berserker rage.

 

I assume he stole the armor from a whitecloak and they are going for a "becoming what you hate and fear" plotline, which makes sense for the character and was also sorta present in the books.

 

But I still hate Perrin in armor.

I don’t remember if it is something he ever does by the end of the book series since it’s not a detail that stick with me, so I could be wrong, but for me it just boils down to something “he wouldn’t do.”  It seems very out of character.

18 minutes ago, Mirefox said:

I don’t remember if it is something he ever does by the end of the book series since it’s not a detail that stick with me, so I could be wrong, but for me it just boils down to something “he wouldn’t do.”  It seems very out of character.

 

I wouldn't say out of character! The books really did underutilize, or at least under-emphasize, the use of armor. (Possibly cause Jordan was a Vietnam Vet and I think armor then kinda sucked and possibly cause armor is sorta silly when you're fighting people who can call down lightning on your head).

 

I think Perrin's character is calculating and deliberate enough that he would go "right. I cannot lead this battle or protect my friends if I am dead. I do not want to die. I will be in the middle of this fight where it is worst cause I am the biggest and baddest target here and Dain hates me and will target me. This armor is available and fits me. It will help me keep everyone I care about alive by serving as a distraction if nothing else. I will wear this armor."

 

I just hate it cause the vibes are off y'know?

 

Or hell maybe be doesn't wear armor and the scene was a weird dream sequence or something.

There is some fascinating revelations if you happen to read Sarah Nakamura's twitter in the last day.  She was talking about a couple of scenes that people had problems with.  First being the scene with Ispan and Moggy in the dream.  Some people were unhappy with Ispan using the term forsaken instead of chosen.  Apparently Sarah had flagged that line and there were discussions about it but then the writers strike happened and the scene was already filmed by the time they got back. 

 

Similar is the healing scene with Alanna.  they had worked up a couple of version of that scene but hadn't decided fully on any and once again the writers strike prevented them from polishing it up before filming.

 

Really does suck that the show has had to deal with things like that but that is the nature of the beast I suppose.  But as some fan mentioned that scene did not bother them because baby channelers are always doing unexpected things in the books.  My head canon is that they had started to heal their mothers hangovers because they were sick of her being so "sick" all the time.

That's interesting, I didn't realise the writers' strike had impacted on S3, I thought it was S2 that was majorly impacted. 

 

17 minutes ago, Walker012 said:

 

I wouldn't say out of character! The books really did underutilize, or at least under-emphasize, the use of armor. (Possibly cause Jordan was a Vietnam Vet and I think armor then kinda sucked and possibly cause armor is sorta silly when you're fighting people who can call down lightning on your head).

 

I think Perrin's character is calculating and deliberate enough that he would go "right. I cannot lead this battle or protect my friends if I am dead. I do not want to die. I will be in the middle of this fight where it is worst cause I am the biggest and baddest target here and Dain hates me and will target me. This armor is available and fits me. It will help me keep everyone I care about alive by serving as a distraction if nothing else. I will wear this armor."

 

I just hate it cause the vibes are off y'know?

 

Or hell maybe be doesn't wear armor and the scene was a weird dream sequence or something.

I can buy that.  For me, Perrin is so reluctant to be a warrior that I feel like he would avoid armoring up, but I can see how your thought process would work, too.

9 minutes ago, notpropaganda73 said:

That's interesting, I didn't realise the writers' strike had impacted on S3, I thought it was S2 that was majorly impacted. 

 

The SAG writers’ strike was July 14-November 9 2023.

 

Principal photography began for season 3 on April 17, 2023.  All filming wrapped March 22, 2024.

Season 1 - absolute tripe

Season 2 - good

Season 3 - really enjoying it , it has made me want to see more and hope for a season 4.

 

4 hours ago, Walker012 said:

 

I wouldn't say out of character! The books really did underutilize, or at least under-emphasize, the use of armor. (Possibly cause Jordan was a Vietnam Vet and I think armor then kinda sucked and possibly cause armor is sorta silly when you're fighting people who can call down lightning on your head).

 

I think Perrin's character is calculating and deliberate enough that he would go "right. I cannot lead this battle or protect my friends if I am dead. I do not want to die. I will be in the middle of this fight where it is worst cause I am the biggest and baddest target here and Dain hates me and will target me. This armor is available and fits me. It will help me keep everyone I care about alive by serving as a distraction if nothing else. I will wear this armor."

 

I just hate it cause the vibes are off y'know?

 

Or hell maybe be doesn't wear armor and the scene was a weird dream sequence or something.

He also just recovered from being stabbed, so he might decide a little protection couldn't hurt.  In the book even Mat realized a little armor might not be such a bad thing.  But the book really doesn't go into if Perin ever puts on a few pieces before going into a fight.