If I recall correctly, they greenlit seasons 2 and 3 before the preceding season dropped.

35 minutes ago, DojoToad said:

If I recall correctly, they greenlit seasons 2 and 3 before the preceding season dropped.

Season 4 has not been greenlit. 

Hmm,  I wonder why the change especially with the more positive reviews this season.

6 minutes ago, DojoToad said:

Hmm,  I wonder why the change especially with the more positive reviews this season.

The scuttlebutt is that renewal is dependent on how things go this season.  My understanding is that it’s Sony that is holding things up. 

9 minutes ago, Elder_Haman said:

The scuttlebutt is that renewal is dependent on how things go this season.  My understanding is that it’s Sony that is holding things up. 

If Sony is holding it up, why wouldn't it surprise me if REE (iWOT) is holding up renewal? 

Probably trying to negotiate a larger sum of $$$ so they can fund their stupid AI bullcrap.

3 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

If Sony is holding it up, why wouldn't it surprise me if REE (iWOT) is holding up renewal? 

Probably trying to negotiate a larger sum of $$$ so they can fund their stupid AI bullcrap.

That would be on brand. 

3 hours ago, DojoToad said:

Hmm,  I wonder why the change especially with the more positive reviews this season.

Positive reviews don’t correlate to more viewer, though.  If a chunk checked out after S1, and then another after S2, the quality of the show might not be enough to recoup those losses.  This is just conjecture as we won’t know anything until Amazon says something.

3 minutes ago, Mirefox said:

Positive reviews don’t correlate to more viewer, though.  If a chunk checked out after S1, and then another after S2, the quality of the show might not be enough to recoup those losses.  This is just conjecture as we won’t know anything until Amazon says something.

It’s more profitable than RoP, which gives me some hope. And if Sony is truly the holdup, that means there’s an opportunity to shop the title around, which is also good. Hopefully someone will bite. 

I believe that Sony Pictures Television, not Amazon, is the primary rights holder along with iWot, which puts the onus of renewal in their hands.

I was hearing that Sony wanted to focus more on their own IP's, God of War, Horizon; Zero Dawn etc...  And because of that they want Amazon to contribute a larger share to the budget.  But all of this is hearsay of course.

16 minutes ago, Skipp said:

I was hearing that Sony wanted to focus more on their own IP's, God of War, Horizon; Zero Dawn etc...  And because of that they want Amazon to contribute a larger share to the budget.  But all of this is hearsay of course.

Hearsay, but it would also make sense, especially if WoT is underperforming.

Amazon head stepping down. Wonder if this will have any effect?

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If season 4 is not yet greenlit, what is the turnaround between given the go-ahead and releasing a season?

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1 minute ago, Mirefox said:

If season 4 is not yet greenlit, what is the turnaround between given the go-ahead and releasing a season?

Probably at least 2 years. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Mirefox said:

If season 4 is not yet greenlit, what is the turnaround between given the go-ahead and releasing a season?

 

Filming an entire TV season - even for a show as comprehensive and sprawling as Wheel of Time - can take as few as 8 months, so even if we don't get word of a renewal until late May, cameras could still start rolling in July and filming could finish next March, so when we'd see it released depends solely and entirely on what else Amazon has to release in the interim, and if they don't actually have anything else to release, we could very easily get a new season next year around this time.

19 minutes ago, DigificWriter said:

 

 

 

Filming an entire TV season - even for a show as comprehensive and sprawling as Wheel of Time - can take as few as 8 months, so even if we don't get word of a renewal until late May, cameras could still start rolling in July and filming could finish next March, so when we'd see it released depends solely and entirely on what else Amazon has to release in the interim, and if they don't actually have anything else to release, we could very easily get a new season next year around this time.

I think that is very optimistic considering the release schedule to date. Also Pike has 6 upcoming releases so unless we make the assumption that she is exiting before the end of this season then her schedule as the lead will play a major role.

1 minute ago, Mailman said:

I think that is very optimistic considering the release schedule to date. Also Pike has 6 upcoming releases so unless we make the assumption that she is exiting before the end of this season then her schedule as the lead will play a major role.

 

1. Season 3 was finished long before Amazon chose to release it, and the decision to hold it was driven entirely by the fact that Amazon wants to 'stagger' the release of its original programming so that it's releasing something new pretty much all year 'round. Therefore, if there is nothing else for Amazon to release next year around this time and Wheel of Time had a completed season of content, there would be no reason for its release to be held.

 

2. If Rosamund isn't leaving the series as an actor, her commitment to it supersedes anything else that she might be working on, and if there happens to be a scheduling conflict, it is up to any other project she may be involved in to accommodate her commitment to Wheel of Time.

48 minutes ago, DigificWriter said:

 

1. Season 3 was finished long before Amazon chose to release it, and the decision to hold it was driven entirely by the fact that Amazon wants to 'stagger' the release of its original programming so that it's releasing something new pretty much all year 'round. Therefore, if there is nothing else for Amazon to release next year around this time and Wheel of Time had a completed season of content, there would be no reason for its release to be held.

 

2. If Rosamund isn't leaving the series as an actor, her commitment to it supersedes anything else that she might be working on, and if there happens to be a scheduling conflict, it is up to any other project she may be involved in to accommodate her commitment to Wheel of Time.

1 Could be right I am just going on previous releases.

 

2 I'm not sure how you can be sure of that do you have her contract information. One release is a Guy Ritchie film with Cumberbatch and Hopkins attached so she is not the biggest name in that production so it would be in no way assured that she controls scheduling for it. Another seems to be a theatre production which would be difficult to move I imagine. She is however the biggest name on the WoT which gives her more power in relation to it.

5 minutes ago, Mailman said:

I'm not sure how you can be sure of that do you have her contract information. One release is a Guy Ritchie film with Cumberbatch and Hopkins attached so she is not the biggest name in that production so it would be in no way assured that she controls scheduling for it. Another seems to be a theatre production which would be difficult to move I imagine. She is however the biggest name on the WoT which gives her more power in relation to it.

 

If you are the Series Lead on a TV series, your #1 obligation is to that series, and everything else becomes secondary, with the obligation to resolve scheduling conflicts falling on any project other than the one of which you are the primary star.

 

Sometimes the producers of a TV series will take the initiative and be willing to work with their Lead(s) in order to accommodate other projects, but they technically don't have to do so and can assert their 'priority rights'.

3 minutes ago, DigificWriter said:

 

If you are the Series Lead on a TV series, your #1 obligation is to that series, and everything else becomes secondary, with the obligation to resolve scheduling conflicts falling on any project other than the one of which you are the primary star.

 

Sometimes the producers of a TV series will take the initiative and be willing to work with their Lead(s) in order to accommodate other projects, but they technically don't have to do so and can assert their 'priority rights'.

Without the contract information you are just guessing she may be entirely locked into WoT's scheduling or she may have specific carve outs or production windows she can enforce on WoT. She signed on as the only big name for WoT which I imagine gave her some bargaining power. If we were talking about any of the other actors on WoT I would be inclined to believe that they were heavily locked down, Pike is above those.

I think she’s going to “die” this season anyway. So all that’s moot. 

5 minutes ago, Elder_Haman said:

I think she’s going to “die” this season anyway. So all that’s moot. 

Possible although it means we miss out on her actually working with Rand arc which I would find disappointing

22 minutes ago, Mailman said:

Possible although it means we miss out on her actually working with Rand arc which I would find disappointing

She can work with Rand when she gets back. 

Although I used to be certain that Moiraine would die but then return 'Gandalf'-style, I'm now becoming more and more convinced that she's not going to be Gandalf at all, but is instead going to be Ned Stark and die permanently.

7 minutes ago, DigificWriter said:

Although I used to be certain that Moiraine would die but then return 'Gandalf'-style, I'm now becoming more and more convinced that she's not going to be Gandalf at all, but is instead going to be Ned Stark and die permanently.

I'm not sure of what they are going to do in any direction with her the only thing I would be fairly certain is if they do remove her and bring her back the length of time she is gone will be greatly reduced from the book length. 1 season max.

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