27 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

Please stop saying this. 💔 You are only that which you believe you are. And I don't think you are dumb. So please if we are friends, don't say this 💕

 

It's ok Gud ❤️ ❤️ ❤️.  If im anything besides dumb it's self aware of it lololololol.  It's ok I accept things as they are if true.  I don't like have a low self esteem or anything and know I've got at least 1 or 2 good qualities too lololololol. 

27 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

Is it morning there tho?

 

I dunno but very special magical event happens on DM when Dice sleeps in Mafia games..... LOLOLOLOLOL 

26 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

@Zander? these are two different things dear.  Bold refers to the villagiest villager to ever village stuff and the bottom quote refers to you acting weirdly wolfy in the beginning on purpose per your own words of admission. 

 

No how can you suss someone for something you've literally only seen them do as Town?!?!!!  And even if you say well that's easy to fake...then it would make it Non Alignment Indictive because I could do it as both alignments.  But I won't dig in on this.  Perhaps I'm holding these posts to the standards of people who have literally seen me so this as any alignment as opposed to my Pocket Owner who has only seen me in 2 games.  I will concede the point here and award it to Gud ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

No how can you suss someone for something you've literally only seen them do as Town?!?!!!  And even if you say well that's easy to fake...then it would make it Non Alignment Indictive because I could do it as both alignments.  But I won't dig in on this.  Perhaps I'm holding these posts to the standards of people who have literally seen me so this as any alignment as opposed to my Pocket Owner who has only seen me in 2 games.  I will concede the point here and award it to Gud ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

I appreciate the concession here buddy and truth be told I really have only seen you as town so when you were acting differently it made me take a second lookey! 🤗 

*Zander all by himself in a Town full of Wolves.... *

 

 

28 minutes ago, DPR said:

 

DPR outting himself ITT as Dr Doom IMHO LOLOLOLOLOL 

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DARTHE - 2 (Turin, DPR)

TURIN - 1  (Darthe)

 

Not Voting: Cass, Gudrean, Hallia, Key, Seph, Verbal, Zander, Dice

 

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13 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

When did I stop talking in the game? It didn't happen and you know it. Also, it wasn't mechanics.  It was theme. Get your facts straight. This whole line about not contributing substantially is hogwash. I'm not happy that you are trying  to sell a fraudulent claim.

 

YOU made 2 posts about how you were able to suss me out as a wolf in a game that you probably didn't even read but after 20 pages can't determine if I'm a wolf or town. By your own claimed expertise it should have been obvious immediately.  This whole tack is fraudulent.  It is a scheme mafia use to put suspicion on townies they don't really have a case on. 

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It's basically how we pushed the Dice lynch last game, with Zander's help of course (sorry Dice).

Of course sentences are crafted. That is how language works. You decide what to say, how to say it, and then for.at it properly to be understood. That your new age ind doesn't get that is you problem. 

 

If I die today I will show everyone how to say goodbye.

 

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You botched them both. 

 

Oh my god multiquoting sucks on a phone.  I have 4 things here and it’s gonna be the most important points I’ve made so far in the game.  No more need to talk to Turin, so ima talk to the rest of you who aren’t voting him yet.  Pay attention.

 

1) This is the least substantial but they’re in order of the responses to the above.  The pedantry between theme and mechanics is utterly meaningless post padding.

 

2) Turin has claimed things are a mafia scheme multiple times in this game.  Here, he’d like you to think a snap read in one game means I should have one in another game or my read is null.  That’s not how reads work, or the game, or wolfing for that matter.  Why is such an experienced player using such a fallacy?

 

3) Both Key and Turin have made the point that sentences are crafted… which is a total nonpoint.  I didn’t think I needed to be so specific as to say that the method in which he is crafting them seems contrived.  I expect that to be a point Turin argues but key also thinking it worries me that it is NAI.  No clue how someone interprets that in critiquing the structure of the English language but you get what it saying here.

 

4) I don’t have time or really the ability via phone to go back and do a post quote case against Turin, but does anyone feel kind enough to grab his posts between the Z reveal and the end of that day?  The question to ask yourself is why is he angry?  Quite my posts too for context please, there’s no reason for how fired up he’s gotten.

 

5) bonus: that last sentence is a straight up threat and I’ve no idea why no one ever mentioned it.

 

 

11 hours ago, Gudrean said:

on 2. I still need to go back and find the Key points people have made before I can really speak to it. 

 

on the 3. Is it a bad thing if Darthe is assuming leader? I mean will that hurt the town? and what does a leader in this situation actually do?

I’m not, though Turin said I was. I’ve been posting while I could and now you’re gonna see less of me.  

 

10 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

The problem is the same. Strong mafia can use that position to control the game. If the player isn't like LOCK CLEAR,  there is great danger. Think of last game when Verb was basically cleared from that point on he had a lot of clout. He was able to lead the town until he got killed. Zander is in a stronger position so if anyone  this game should be leading it's him.

by your own internal logic if I’m town I’m gonna get killed, which is prob true, but crossing that narrative gap would undermine the push wouldn’t it?

 

3 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

In b4 Darth says its sign of wolf chat, lol

Can we talk about how this post is only ever beneficial for W Turin?  I don’t even mean to tunnel here, but think about it in my situation.

 

3 hours ago, Hallia said:

turin remains my strongest town read outside of zander

 

lolololololololololool

 

There’s basically no pressure on him, you don’t gotta bus yet.
 

2 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

Duuuude, we just talked about this. Well there is only one way that is a problem. It involves Zander having #saddestfaceever:(

 

 

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I'm town

 

 

Fascinating that Z picked up on this later, so ima leave it alone cause it’s hard to delete.

 

2 hours ago, Gudrean said:

I wouldn't call it scared, more like confused as to how anyone can get a good read that early on.  Darthe was asking me to make a list as my next post so I tried my best.

It prolly sucked because nobody was really reading any alignment at the time of my posting a list. 

 

If you look at the beginning of both of my prior games you'll see I suck at D1 reads. It truly feels to me like people are just making things up or just winging it lololol

 

this may be Gud first W game, that “it prolly sucked” line looks forced.  Following up on it is awkward too. 
 

2 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

There's Wolves Voting IMHO 

100%

 

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

 

No man I won't be belittled or shrugged off for calling out obvious double standards or contradictory comments.  You know I'm right and arguing like if you had literally said ya I can at see how that's how you'd see it....I might think villager weirdness but you double down and double down and double down...like we've literally had this back and forth in all 3 games.  You know I'm town in all of them and keep seeing it...like I just don't get it...and I backed off you and Lenlo Day 1 last game for this type of stuff and you were both Wolves...you and Dice can girl all be better play better don't be dumb or whatever all you want.  It doesn't make me wrong ....sure I could be wrong about assuming only Wolf you does this but it DOESN'T change the fact it's true.

literally been dealing with this for like 20 pages off of a light w read.  It’s become the core of my read, just in his responses.

 

 

in other news if sephs a wolf ima just lose I guess, and DPR and verb are still totally null.  Really thought they’d both be more engaged by now.

 

Vote: Turin

Darthe's WoT and the interaction between the two hurts my head, but so far I think there's more in favour of keeping Darthe around D1 here. 

2 hours ago, Darthe said:

in other news if sephs a wolf ima just lose I guess, and DPR and verb are still totally null.  Really thought they’d both be more engaged by now.

 

 

DPR and Verb have both been about and posting/poking, so I disagree that they're not engaged. 

 

Some of DPR's play, especially wrt Gud, looks ?deeper and Townier than Verb's so far, IMO. LolPirates if I'm wrong. 

5 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

I think everyone of you is Wolfing till Ithi confirms otherwise LOLOLOLOLOLOL 

 

You changing your name to Heavy??

 

5 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

I know and agree about the vote I was just trying to explain in a way that I thought might sound better than nope that's Dice meta lol

 

 

Ok. I had no idea what you were trying to say.

 

5 hours ago, keyholder21 said:

 

 

Not a good look when Z was actively accusing her at the time in thread. 

 

 

No, you are not alone.

 

I didnt know that tho.. Im still not caught up, ive just tried to keep up with todays posts so faar today

 

 

5 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

It's ok Gud ❤️ ❤️ ❤️.  If im anything besides dumb it's self aware of it lololololol.  It's ok I accept things as they are if true.  I don't like have a low self esteem or anything and know I've got at least 1 or 2 good qualities too lololololol. 

 

only 1 or 2?

 

 

 

 

 

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TURIN - 2  (Darthe, Cass)

 

Not Voting: Gudrean, Hallia, Key, Seph, Verbal, Zander, Dice

 

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On 4/1/2025 at 2:41 AM, Hallia said:

Does that mean we get to do what I think we get to do

 

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lunch dice when sleeping

 

 

Eu Tu Halli??  Im disappointed.

On 4/1/2025 at 2:44 AM, Zander? said:

 

Stop Mafia Shaming me!!!!

 

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Goes and cries and in corner

 

 

 

 

 

Theres no crying in Mafia!

 

 

On 4/1/2025 at 4:49 AM, Gudrean said:

Does the Hamilton Play have good guys and bad guys or it's just perspective?

 

Depends if youre a Pom or a Yank...

 

 

On 4/1/2025 at 5:46 AM, Darthe said:

Hey Dice and DPR, gonna need something spicer from both of you.  
 

 

I think a town core is starting to form, and my gut says Key is in it.  That’s a good catch up post.

 

 

Trying but dont have a lot yet.

 

On 4/1/2025 at 5:54 AM, Turin Turambar said:

No. At least not the last one. Ot didn't really apply though because everyone was just a colour as it was among us. I don't think the first game did either however. I would expect there are fake claim names in this game although they might not make sense to.people that aren't really familiar with early US history (my speculation ).

 

Was going to ask why you expect fake claims..

 

On 4/1/2025 at 6:07 AM, Turin Turambar said:

I think it doesn't matter because in every themed game I remember Ithi running, the mafia had good names to use as fakes. I don't think the game could be broken that way, nor should we try. The Modess can be wrathful. 

 

but now i realise your just gaming the mod. 

7 hours ago, Darthe said:

Oh my god multiquoting sucks on a phone.  I have 4 things here and it’s gonna be the most important points I’ve made so far in the game.  No more need to talk to Turin, so ima talk to the rest of you who aren’t voting him yet.  Pay attention.

 

1) This is the least substantial but they’re in order of the responses to the above.  The pedantry between theme and mechanics is utterly meaningless post padding.

 

2) Turin has claimed things are a mafia scheme multiple times in this game.  Here, he’d like you to think a snap read in one game means I should have one in another game or my read is null.  That’s not how reads work, or the game, or wolfing for that matter.  Why is such an experienced player using such a fallacy?

 

3) Both Key and Turin have made the point that sentences are crafted… which is a total nonpoint.  I didn’t think I needed to be so specific as to say that the method in which he is crafting them seems contrived.  I expect that to be a point Turin argues but key also thinking it worries me that it is NAI.  No clue how someone interprets that in critiquing the structure of the English language but you get what it saying here.

 

4) I don’t have time or really the ability via phone to go back and do a post quote case against Turin, but does anyone feel kind enough to grab his posts between the Z reveal and the end of that day?  The question to ask yourself is why is he angry?  Quite my posts too for context please, there’s no reason for how fired up he’s gotten.

 

5) bonus: that last sentence is a straight up threat and I’ve no idea why no one ever mentioned it.

 

 

I’m not, though Turin said I was. I’ve been posting while I could and now you’re gonna see less of me.  

 

by your own internal logic if I’m town I’m gonna get killed, which is prob true, but crossing that narrative gap would undermine the push wouldn’t it?

 

Can we talk about how this post is only ever beneficial for W Turin?  I don’t even mean to tunnel here, but think about it in my situation.

 

 

There’s basically no pressure on him, you don’t gotta bus yet.
 

Fascinating that Z picked up on this later, so ima leave it alone cause it’s hard to delete.

 

 

this may be Gud first W game, that “it prolly sucked” line looks forced.  Following up on it is awkward too. 
 

100%

 

literally been dealing with this for like 20 pages off of a light w read.  It’s become the core of my read, just in his responses.

 

 

in other news if sephs a wolf ima just lose I guess, and DPR and verb are still totally null.  Really thought they’d both be more engaged by now.

 

5 hours ago, Cass said:

 

Vote: Turin

Darthe's WoT and the interaction between the two hurts my head, but so far I think there's more in favour of keeping Darthe around D1 here. 

 

I have 2 World Views and they both kinda hinge on a Turin flip lol.

3 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

You changing your name to Heavy??

 

 

 

Ok. I had no idea what you were trying to say.

 

 

I didnt know that tho.. Im still not caught up, ive just tried to keep up with todays posts so faar today

 

 

 

only 1 or 2?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't like to brag Dice lololololol 

3 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

 

 

Theres no crying in Mafia!

 

 

 

 

 

That's all eg

On 4/1/2025 at 7:37 AM, DPR said:

I didn’t love Key’s tl;dr

 

Felt a little forced to me. 

 

Ok so ive just read your post where you talk about her post. glossing over seph, lots on gud etc.

 

Can you tell me where/how you find it sounds forced?

 

On 4/1/2025 at 8:02 AM, Zander? said:

 

Was waiting to see who'd be the first to catch it LOLOLOLOL 

 

Its not like it was hard to catch. I did as soon as i saw it  shrug

A couple of quick questions:

 

Zander,  which of these is a quantifiable statement?

1. I'm town

2. I'm the most villagery villager to ever village.

 

Cass, the last line of my quote that Darthe said was a threat, Who sang that in the play? ( I may have paraphrased)

 

Finally, I'm gonna break an unwritten rule maybe. In this closed setup game, who benefits more from not discussing setup/mechanics?

Zander, something about your play prior to revealing, you can't act sketchy and then behave like people were wrong for responding to you acting sketchy.

 

 

On 4/1/2025 at 9:09 AM, seph said:

Alright, I am having trouble with quoting so meh, those 40 quotes are waistedI will pull some I think may warrant it on a re read maybe...

 

Red is mine

Darthe- I am trying not to read much into how I remember him vs now. When I quit he was a lower volume player but his interaction with the thread is overall positive. His questioning of Gud is what led to my initial meh read on her.  Actively supporting people posting and trying to get more info on his read is a positive. I felt good vibes and stand by my initial reading.

 

Blinks. Darthe was what? I agree with the thought that hes being positive. Has good tone, asking questions and poking and spreading it around.  Im always a little wary with him, but I worry more late game with him.



Turin- I have flip flopped on my Feelings with this one. I think the catchup post was nice and I am slightly leaning town here. 

 

Ive played 3 straight games with him now and I get what zander was saying. He does kinda post in a playign both sides sort of way, but he always has. What HAS bugged me in these games is it feels like he gets a bit fixated on zander but then its hard not too cause Zanders always after him from the get go. Im purposely considering him null because i dont know what to make of it right now

Dice- I have seen him flip town in to many games and always notice he generally gets more engaged as the game progresses. Not worried ATP here but am definitely interested in hearing his take.

 

 

Giving you stuff noiw but im still not caught up.   Ive mangled this post somehow lol

 

On 4/1/2025 at 9:09 AM, seph said:

Hallia- You are lovely so I put you in the middle of the Town Sammich. You also proposed a Sleepy Dice lunch which should always be rewarded. The pre reveal thing went over my head 😞

 

Right now null. She tries lynching me and i will say lynch with fire. Thats been the trigger with me over the years usually come d2



Dpr- someone though asking about games played was towny, I read it as a wolf possibly trying to protect someone at first? I do not think DPR has been inherently wolfy and I did not hate his post regarding his thoughts on Key's TLDR. Dice posts for an easy read are true, but I think it's meta indicative for him, I got the Gud-cass possible connection so I guess I feel like reading the thread in the same way is beneficial. 

I had trouble reading him in the past and might engage later for some friendly discussions 🙂

I just mangled it even more lol

 

DPR  whats sticking out to me   and i know its not everything hes said a bit about key for eg but what sticks in my mind is he seems to be giving very short posts, something i dont remember him doing really. Verb? Absolutely! but not DPR. However I havent minded what he has said. Im looking forward to him explaing how he feels key is forced.