10 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

I don't really wanna answer but I am lol.  Being pressured tends to be something Mafia does as opposed to Town.  Not always but moreso.  Mafia have to try and keep themselves from Sus as best as possible unless going for TWTBAW basically.  Some will play into but not the norm. If you're a Villager in any game and don't feel you have a good enough handle just say null or say you don't have a good enough guess atp.

 

id disagree. Most of my many mislynches have been driven by Town

 

9 hours ago, Darthe said:

Actually a cult would be so fun in 11p

 

We oughta lynch you for this. CULTS ARE NOT FUN!!!

 

 

7 hours ago, DPR said:

It was a *feeling* dice, like a soulread or a hunch. You already know this. It felt like she was making a list to fit in and not because she had any actual reads. So I made a note of it. 

Is that what you’re looking for? 
 

Now that we’re a few days in, a reads list from you would be helpful. 

 

 

thank you. I was hoping for like a "when she said THIS i had this reaction" sorta thing but thats fine.

 

So I think im caught up. 

 

I seem to be collecting town reads more than scum reads.

 

Town

Darthe  I just dont think theres any doubt here. Hes poking, asking questions, ive agreed with a bunch of things hes said. 

Key  Shes digging. Seems a little tunneled on gud but I cant complain about that. Agaain  have agreed with stuff she says

Seph  He just feels like hes on his town game to me. most of the game hes sounded and felt unrushed and relaxed. A bit less last few pages, but i think that may be to not really understanding what Verb and DPR were saying to him.

 

Null

Gud  other people who have played with her are sussing her but she sounds the same to me. 

DPR  some things ive liked some i havent. No real idea tbh

Verb I always find verb hard to read and his lack of activity so far isnt making it any easier. Dont think hes said anything bad but he hasnt said much really

Halli  lack of activity isnt helping. Is usually a Day 2 read for me, especially if she does a certain something there.

 

Null - Scum

Cass just isnt registering with me. Barely here. I think i get her vote on turin but im not seeing the normal way she posts.

 

Scum

Turin. 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

I'm starting to think there be some mafias on my train.

 

IYKYK

 

 

Right so Vote Turin

 

This may be a bad vote cause a big part of it is irritation. Ive literally had this running thru my head even as i slept.

 

The other parts tho are inconsistency and now he has added a LAL element to it.

 

He had a post where he snapped at Darthe kinda hard, then took his ball and left the thread. Not something I normally associate with turin.

 

Has been soft claiming Washington most of the game but iirc literally said he was not him? Been representing LD but also said hes not that. Bought the LD up early for no real reason, I dont agree with his idea of worrying mafia, i think it just warns them and lately hes fixated on people saying their Town despite saying he didnt believe in the usual make everyone say their town schtick. So fixated his annoyed me into digging my heels in and refusing to say what he wants just because he wants it so much.

 

Has been focused on mechanics all game. Says hes been talkign theme but talking theme is posting music vids or what your fav part of the play was or little tidbits like apparently Lin got inspired because he heard they were taking Hamilton off the $10 note.

 

He is also the one who raised about their being fake claims and that he thinks there would be based off ithis modding history.  I can totally see Washington being a fake claim, would be the best one you can get really (cause youd never get Hamilton imo) So im really not trusting his claim. Especially as I dont remember him ever softing a claim like that before.

 

Thats not what hes been doing.

 

and now im adding LAL. Lynch All Liars.  He been softing Washing, repping LD but said he wasnt them AND said he wasnt going to claim. Like at all.  Then he claims  with only 3 votes and like 30 hrs before deadline?

 

Oh and he has added more inconsistency claiming Washington but now flashing IYKYK around.  Thats a Jefferson thing. Who is a political enemy of Hamilton.

 

So thats where im at

 

4 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Again!!!  Turin defense post!!!!!  It feels like you KNOW Turins alignment Gud.   I get this isn't much but it's the 3rd time I've noticed something like this albeit the weakest.  But in Zanderbrain(yes I know brain is for me is reaching but...) 1 or 2 times coincidence.....3 or more Patterns.  Ugggghhhhhhh Gud you're breaking my heart and mind here and maybe it's just lolme but I can't understand what I see saddestfaceever gif 

 

I thought she was just pointing out it was a line from the show

 

 

4 hours ago, seph said:

Imagine wanting to vote Turin when he hard claimed george washington.
DO YOU THINK THAT CHARACTER IS NOT IN THIS GAME???? 

lolol if ithi made it a fake claim though.

 

yeah imagine that.

 

See above 😄 

 

3 hours ago, Gudrean said:

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Reads for today:

Cass - best girl - town - earlier posts seemed legit town

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Cairos - town - could the random.orgs be so cruel to throw him wolf twice in a row?

RTE - sus posts about my alignment and zander vig claim - maybe innocent mistake but..

Shad - feels real town, but...

Lenlo - thought he was wolf pretty quickly, maybe just that "this joke too far" claim but then some what felt like admissions?

Verb - was thinking wolf from his knowing I'm villagey but questioning anyway

Turin - seems legit town

Heavy - bringing good logics and so far clean feels

Dice - asking how we are the same made me think twice about whether he meant he knows i'm town and he's not???

Zander - pocket feels pretty darn towny - don't make me cry man!

 

so four possibles in my head but have to narrow done to 3

 

will vote in a little bit closer to time

 

In reference to me not listing everyone her is a post from my 2nd game

 

2nd bold above - no! I can't because I haven't yet. Not comfortable with this action yet. When I feel I'm on to something I will ask questions and try to solve but it's the longest D1 ever and I've already said I think everyone is town so far. 

 

Gud  Dont post things from other games in the current game. Its not a done thing

4 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

Zander,  ask yourself who is "the town"?

You will find enlightenment. 

 

So I asked the voices in my head Me myself and I so I did find enlightenment in Villagery enough for 3 people lololololol

3 hours ago, keyholder21 said:

 

 

Did you not read up on the theme you signed up for?????? I feel like we were given a clue to this in our PMs, not that I'm trying to game the mod, just going off of what was in mine.

 

 

I like the references back to DPR and Cass because they are sitting low for me atm, but, the "I need to really clear you if I can" has weird vibes to me.  Like, obviously?  

 

 

Townie, or at least not on a team with them, imo. Easier to just off the cuff spout out one of the vote getters.  Also forces her to look at (or be raked over the coals for not) DPR and Cass.  Admittedly, this is colored by the fact that I think they are both sketchy.

 

 

Bold - the worst reason not to vote for someone. Does new scum off this up on a platter, esp when Cass currently has a vote on her?  Meaning, if she does get the full train and is lynched and turns up wolf, this immediately makes Gud super sus.

 

 

Weak reason to sus, imo, but maybe that's cause I do rereads and that's how I play the game too.

 

 

But why do you think this? 

 

 

Not true.

 

 

 

I don't really like this exchange, but I can't put my finger on why?  Like, it just feels bad man and I know that's not really that helpful.

 

 

LOL, that's how I feel with this catch up.  I see like at least 5 more pages since I started it.  

Okay, I have to eat something before I teach at 12:30.  I'll be hit or miss for a few hours, but I'll pop in to continue this when I can. I promise to be fully caught up and giving my current thoughts before I go to bed tonight.  

 

I never read watched or looked at a single thing about the theme LOLOLOLOL 

@Hallia  no i dont find it odd because it could just be the people shes got feelings about. I of all people definetly dont get to criticize that

3 hours ago, Hallia said:

wait why is turin the top wagon

 

stupid meetings

 

stupid 55 pages

 

*grumble*

 

If you can't answer that when you've caught up I don't know what to say besides....he's prolly your Scummate?!?!?!   Lololololol 

right off to work   im already late lol

3 hours ago, Hallia said:

on its face this is a horrible reason to vote someone

 

SO MUCH SO

 

I'ma

 

Vote: DPR

 

I hate this vote.  And DPR is in my PoE.  It's an Uneducated vote having literally just admitted in previous post not caught up.

10 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

id disagree. Most of my many mislynches have been driven by Town

 

 

We oughta lynch you for this. CULTS ARE NOT FUN!!!

 

 

 

thank you. I was hoping for like a "when she said THIS i had this reaction" sorta thing but thats fine.

 

So I think im caught up. 

 

I seem to be collecting town reads more than scum reads.

 

Town

Darthe  I just dont think theres any doubt here. Hes poking, asking questions, ive agreed with a bunch of things hes said. 

Key  Shes digging. Seems a little tunneled on gud but I cant complain about that. Agaain  have agreed with stuff she says

Seph  He just feels like hes on his town game to me. most of the game hes sounded and felt unrushed and relaxed. A bit less last few pages, but i think that may be to not really understanding what Verb and DPR were saying to him.

 

Null

Gud  other people who have played with her are sussing her but she sounds the same to me. 

DPR  some things ive liked some i havent. No real idea tbh

Verb I always find verb hard to read and his lack of activity so far isnt making it any easier. Dont think hes said anything bad but he hasnt said much really

Halli  lack of activity isnt helping. Is usually a Day 2 read for me, especially if she does a certain something there.

 

Null - Scum

Cass just isnt registering with me. Barely here. I think i get her vote on turin but im not seeing the normal way she posts.

 

Scum

Turin. 

 

 

 

 

 

Right so Vote Turin

 

This may be a bad vote cause a big part of it is irritation. Ive literally had this running thru my head even as i slept.

 

The other parts tho are inconsistency and now he has added a LAL element to it.

 

He had a post where he snapped at Darthe kinda hard, then took his ball and left the thread. Not something I normally associate with turin.

 

Has been soft claiming Washington most of the game but iirc literally said he was not him? Been representing LD but also said hes not that. Bought the LD up early for no real reason, I dont agree with his idea of worrying mafia, i think it just warns them and lately hes fixated on people saying their Town despite saying he didnt believe in the usual make everyone say their town schtick. So fixated his annoyed me into digging my heels in and refusing to say what he wants just because he wants it so much.

 

Has been focused on mechanics all game. Says hes been talkign theme but talking theme is posting music vids or what your fav part of the play was or little tidbits like apparently Lin got inspired because he heard they were taking Hamilton off the $10 note.

 

He is also the one who raised about their being fake claims and that he thinks there would be based off ithis modding history.  I can totally see Washington being a fake claim, would be the best one you can get really (cause youd never get Hamilton imo) So im really not trusting his claim. Especially as I dont remember him ever softing a claim like that before.

 

Thats not what hes been doing.

 

and now im adding LAL. Lynch All Liars.  He been softing Washing, repping LD but said he wasnt them AND said he wasnt going to claim. Like at all.  Then he claims  with only 3 votes and like 30 hrs before deadline?

 

Oh and he has added more inconsistency claiming Washington but now flashing IYKYK around.  Thats a Jefferson thing. Who is a political enemy of Hamilton.

 

So thats where im at

 

 

I thought she was just pointing out it was a line from the show

 

 

 

yeah imagine that.

 

See above 😄 

 

 

Gud  Dont post things from other games in the current game. Its not a done thing

 

My first post was about Townies leading Mislunches at all not sure where you got that from lol.

@Turin Turambar

 

Who's your Top 3 WTL ATM?

44 minutes ago, Hallia said:

agreed;

 

who are your top two that you mention

wut

 

Did you read any of my posts before voting me lol

OMG all Turins Mech talk I just imagined he's, I'm not sure I'm remembering the role name correctly, actually a Jester the one that wins or something if Lunched lololololol 

21 hours ago, seph said:

I am pretty sure I'm gana Yolo a L town read.

Souldread#2

 

 I know what yolo means, but what does "yolo a L town read" mean?  

 

20 hours ago, DPR said:

I love Makers Mark. It’s my favorite.

 

Good news everyone! Dice is OK! Totally town with great taste in bourbon! 
 

Cheers to you, sir!

 

Not game related, but I also love Maker's Mark :). 

 

19 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

If you read everything like you should, you would know I'm town. 

 

It might be nice to have Turin on your side. 

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You still won't get it. 

 

Same here, might be nice to have Key on your side.

 

19 hours ago, seph said:

These posts are up to the Ic mod reveal. Game starts at 7:30  so I got a bit.

 

I think Gud is a wolf obviously, I don't see Turin pressuring gud this early if w/w, I would more than likely expect something to help them get into the thread.

 

Just a gud interaction it could mean something, it could just be a question.

 

Once again Turin questioning gud. Not w/w imo.

 

 

I will be spoilering guds first reads lists from last game next to this games reads. People give random reads all the time, but the post explaining it rubs me the wrong way.

The town reads were dice, Cass and someone else???

 

Shortly after this we get this

Pressure from darthe before we get a forced reads list imo

 

I disliked this so much at the time, it looked like someone trying to appease the masses without having any sort of reasons for this. My tinfoil of the team came later but Cass and dpr have no posts regarding the game. Verb either but I don't have much to post about him.

 

Every other read leaves room to switch and I didnt catch that earlier. When asked for reads in her other game they read so much better even if she was unsure. (Spoilered below)

 

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Don't worry deary, I shall not disappoint! Just as shiney and pure as always.

 

Heavy does seem different but I'm not ready to assume he's wolf just yet. Especially since he was cop last game and I had him pegged wolf. 😏

 

Dice, Turin, Shad seem pretty chill atm.

Verbal so far so gud!

 

Zanders, don't break my heart this game, I'm counting on you keeping my pocket warm, err that sounded weird huh? you know what I mean lol

 

  On 3/11/2025 at 8:07 AM, Gudrean said:

For now I don't have any sus reads as they usually come when someone just talks normally. Can't explain how it works but I surely hope it works, for townsake. Or aren't we actually in a spacecraft? So for shipsake. nod nod

 

Depending on Dice reads is not a bad way to go, from what I've seen but still gotta read Dice himself to decide if he's town or not. Then we're safe to follow his reads. 

 

I'll agree no one seems super-wolfy as of yet.

 

This was a post about dpr, again leaving room to change the reads.

Im eventually getting to dpr I think. Hockey time!

 

I don't agree with it, but I feel like I can understand where he's coming from because I didn't like her list either. It's only since that I've come around.  It is good follow through as he did mention earlier that he wanted to try and "clear" Gud if he could.

 

19 hours ago, seph said:

This was dprs first game related post. I dislike it and want others to answer, not dpr please.

This was a returning game for alot of people, in no way, shape, or form would I assume this is someone new to mafia. This is exactly the post I would make as mafia to bail a teammate out to be honest. 

Has dpr ever played with gud/ interacted to even know she is knew to this game?

 

I haven't played with her ever and I knew she was new.  I don't like the focus on this post from DPR because he's had other sketchy posts. 

 

19 hours ago, seph said:

1. Best frand

2. Darthe, I honestly think if he is a wolf this is his best game I have ever seen. 

3. Key

 

dice/hallia/turin

verbal

 

Cass- I might be least sure here but I will work that out I hope. She is never above hallia/Verb.

Before re reading I had Turin as a possible replacement if I was wrong buy I don't think that's the case anymore

 

Gud

Dpr

 

Not too bad a list, but I wouldn't have Hally so high or Gud so low.

 

18 hours ago, seph said:

Was she?

I legitimately did not pay attention to that lol. I still think the post is a good way to diffuse but I will not view it as damning.

I am posting between periods. Still like two hours of game!

 

I am re reading the game and posting as I go. Sry

All content matters.

I will go search out your posts though specifically

 

Then why are you saying before that you are YOLOing and then also way earlier shooting from the hip?  I feel like this is at least mildly contradictory.

 

18 hours ago, DPR said:

That’s because your Pirate Blindness has prevented you from seeing correctly. 
 

I’ve expressed my doubts regarding Key and Halli as well as voted for Darthe. 
 

Darthe’s stream-of-consciousness-acid-trip post was especially concerning to me and nether Key nor Halli showed up to play today. 
 

I’ve also questioned Turin a bit about his antics. 
 

I asked about the reasoning behind Cass’s vote this morning and have tried to keep up a conversation with Zander about his reads as he’s the mvp. 
 

You would know all this if you were reading closely. 
 

So far I’ve seen your play as leaning Town - not your reads, but your play - but now you seem to be shifting toward a different agenda than core building. I almost called you out earlier for spending a couple of posts casing Gud and then pivoting to me, but now it’s obvious so here we are. 
 

If you have an actual gripe against me, great, go ahead and make it. But at least do minimum fact checking first. 

Third bold, then first bold  - irony considering this stuff happened before your unvote and Seph was asking about after. 😛 

 

Second bold - I didn't hate the unvote, but if his post was that concerning to you, why unvote??

 

17 hours ago, seph said:

I talked to your gripes about key.

That was page 20?

I saw your poke at Cass.

I didn't remember any post about hallia until rereading just now.

Questioning Turin tells me you questioned him?? Yea I saw them lol.

You unvoted darthe and I asked for updates because it's been a minute besides a sus of cass.

 

Everything you mentioned happened before the darthe unvote, is it Wrong of me to ask for a update lol.

 

 

 

You said you want to talk, me thinking you are a wolf is not new here. I want to engage now and find out who you think in your opinion we should lynch?

 

If you're town, let's go. If not I will sure try to post a case later to lynch you.

 

If you don't want to talk to me about your reads and people you don't trust, tell me where I am wrong In my reads and who I should focus on?

 

I like this post.  

 

17 hours ago, Darthe said:

Y’all this trip is killing me, I just worked 8 to 9.  Gone be brief here, I’ve got some time but I want to mostly chill.  I did read up, and a few things are worth responding to.

 

First up, Zander.  I am a bit disappointed friend.  Your claim seems to have taken the fun out of the game for you, but you’re still our strongest asset so we need more hunting from you.

Seph stronk, which should be sus since we see this in each other, but isn’t cause it’s just such pure play.

 

key I wish was doing more, still holding onto my early T read but it’s getting surpassed by others.

^ core established

There’s a gap here.  If I’m missing someone they probably go here too.

 

dice talked some.  Null.

 

verb talked too.

 

hally didn’t.
 

now the neg reads

 

Turin - still my strongest read.  He immediately dropped the angry facade when I wasn’t around to interact with.  Disappointed no one was willing to go back and grab those interactions.

 

gud - not lookin so good.  Her posts have effort but lack commitment, and I don’t think there’s value so much as the attempt to appear to add value.   Sephs already dug into this some but in particular I’m just getting nothing from these long posts about a person at a time.  Seems hollow for lack of a better word.

 

cass - frankly, getting wolf vibes here too.  Thought she was against me for a while and now she’s against Turin, but it all seems very calculated.  This one’s a pure meta read, but I expected T Cass to  be a hunter and instead she’s poking.   
 

DPR - this one’s I’d have a lot more ammo if I were able to be more present I think.  As it stands this is a slight leaning more than a read.  The way he is interacting with my slot is nonsense though, crap or get off the pot.  Constantly hand waving bad vibes my way doesn’t require any conviction, and doesn’t indicate anything cept that he doesn’t want me in the town core.

 

First :p, outside of yesterday, I was here and doing stuff.  Secondly, if it's being surpassed by others why is there a huge gap between me and others?

 

Outside of that, I like most of this list.  I don't agree on Turin, Hallia or Gud, and I don't feel as strongly about Seph, but I do agree he looks okay so far.  I agree about dice being on the lower end of null, verb being null, wolf vibes from Cass and DPR.

 

17 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

so @DPR im only like 5 pages behind and I cant say ive seen anything that answers my question. 

 

What parts of Keys big post felt forced? and how? 

 

I like this question, but obv I'm biased.

 

17 hours ago, seph said:

 

 

17 hours ago, seph said:

My post to dpr dice

How did you feel about her (key) response to you on this post?

 

If key flipped mafia right now, where would you look for her teammates?

 

 

 

 

I think this line of questioning is good, because DPR's reasoning for me giving "forced" reads and then his follow up to my follow up were weak, which I did call him out on and a large part of why he feels sketchy to me. 

 

Oops, meant to add to the bottom of that that I'm off to teach again.  I'll be back later.

Official Vote Count

 

TURIN - 4  (Cass, Zander, DPR, Dice)

CASS - 1 (Darthe)

DPR- 3 (Seph, Hallia, Turin)

 

Not Voting: Gudrean, Key, Verbal

 

6 votes required for a Majority.

 

This is a Hybrid Hammer/Deadline Game

 

Day 1 is longer and ends 10PM BST (British Summer Time) on Friday 4th April

 

Day 1 Timer

https://stagetimer.io/r/UVDHPDFH/

24 hours till end of Day 1 Deadline.

 

NB. I think i got confuddled when i set the Timer up cos of us moving to BST and my timer has been running 1 hour short lol.

 

But it's 10pm here now so there's definitely 24 hours left. I've fixed the Timer to show this.

 

Key, I was just trying to place her in my list. I liked the tone of her posts and gave her a light town read and put her in the middle of my list.
I don't really love the drive by vote though. ugh...
I am going through my DPR quotes after homework. 
Then Turin.

I absolutely loved Dice's catch up post though, I swear I am trying to listen to others but I think after a bunch of reading today, some interactions the poe is  this for me.
Zander
Darthe
Key
Dice
^^ probably not touching
 

TURIN - 4  (Cass, Zander, DPR, Dice)

CASS - 1 (Darthe)

DPR- 3 (Seph, Hallia, Turin)

 

Turin/Hallia/Verb/cass/dpr/Gud  is my poe I am trying to work through.

1 hour ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

Gud  Dont post things from other games in the current game. Its not a done thing

oh sorry, someone was comparing my current play style to past play style and couldn't find any other way to show they were the same.

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

 

I hate this vote.  And DPR is in my PoE.  It's an Uneducated vote having literally just admitted in previous post not caught up.

what is PoE ? please

1 hour ago, Gudrean said:

what is PoE ? please

nvmd I found it

On 3/31/2025 at 2:55 PM, DPR said:

 

not liking anything happening here

This is talking about two initial posts from hallia, weird pre reveal talk. Early Turin townread. 

Ugh... 

On 3/31/2025 at 4:02 PM, DPR said:

1. Gives lots of detail over Gud and glosses over Seph.

 

2. Makes obvious post about lack of posts by Dice.
 

3. Gives no reason for not seeing Cass on a team with Gud

 

4. says she hates my post about mechanics but I didn’t post about mechanics lol - my reply to Gud was to clarify that there is no point in tying themes to actual play. Everybody knows that.

 

5. The only slid town read on Darthe is qualified with a “I never read him well” warning label. No bueno

I remember the misrep thing here going back and fourth.

Ughh...

On 3/31/2025 at 4:19 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

I have not read any recent games, so I am basing it on the past.  I don't ever remember being able to read you as anything other than wolfy.  I don't even like the task of catching up in games I am in lol.  I offered to get you the posts earlier :P, but I'll go dig them out. 

 

 

I gave reason for Seph in my literal next post, and I've also posted again about darthe, so these are weak points.

 

I'll give you the point on Cass, I should have explained my thinking.  I don't see her poking at Gud during the "all town" discussion if they were teammates.

 

Dude, semantics on #4.

 

 

 

This doesn't read that badly

On 3/31/2025 at 5:20 PM, DPR said:

Meh, I don’t love it. Why do a catch-all post and then spread the logic and reasons out in other posts? It makes it confusing.
 

It is the first day and maybe she’s not all organized though. 
 

The semantics thing is a bad look. She threw an accusation at me and then backed down with no reasoning? 
 

Not a great comeback post in my eyes. 
 

I’m keeping my lists to myself right now. No reason to muddy the waters without more to go on. 

There were things I remember disliking here on the initial post but it's more content than most.

On 3/31/2025 at 5:38 PM, DPR said:

I get town vibes from this

Dahhh he liked my first reads list.

 

On 3/31/2025 at 6:51 PM, DPR said:

i thought you were focusing on building a town core? 

This queation to darthe is where I really started to pay attention to him, and I had the first gud comment in my head at this point. Trying to read with a clear mind and no ideas of entanglement.

On 3/31/2025 at 7:35 PM, DPR said:

 

B with a side eye 

 

Towncore building has more to do with a consensus and Darthe has been chasing targets all day so far. Him listing his top tier town, mid tier, low tier would follow along with that and a follow up vote would make sense. But as soon as you (Zander) revealed, he peeled off of you and went in for Turin.

 

But he said he was core building, and he didn't have to do that - he could've just rolled with Wild Darthe on D1 and nobody would've blinked, so why did he say the thing about building a core?

  

 

 

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt but you're all over the place with nervous energy. 

 

Throwing shade at me over "mechanics" is contrived and just brings up the ghosts of hundred games that have nothing to do with this one. It struck me as labeling and a cheap shot. When you backed right off of it you looked worse imo. There is no actual reasoning there, or if I'm missing it, you're welcome to explain it. 

 

I'll share my list when I deem it necessary.

Questioning darthe, at least he is following his own logic here, even if I don't approve.

On 3/31/2025 at 7:45 PM, Zander? said:

 

So do you think Darthe Wolfy based on this?  I'm pretty dumb and I don't think I follow.  Regardless of alignment you either have to actually or pretend to actually find Villagers and Find Wolves....like that literally is Mafia so I'm a bit perplexed here lol

On 3/31/2025 at 7:48 PM, Zander? said:

 

Everytime I read a DPR response I feel like he responds without really answering the question yet posts in a very convincing way he did?!???  It both hurts my brain and is extremely impressive lololololol

 

A few Zander posts I liked when he was questioning dpr

 

On 3/31/2025 at 8:06 PM, DPR said:

 

I think Cory used to build a core that worked like a charm. As long as he had enough players in the game he knew how to read. 
 

This is a bunch of folks coming back from multi-years hiatus and nobody is really solid on readings right now. 
 

So I figure I’ll make observations as I see them and hopefully that’ll click with other players that see the same thing. 
 

Turin is playing a little too hard and multiple folks have called him wolfy. I’m not opposed to this. 
 

Darthe is always confusing on D1 and he and I tend to go back and forth to try and shake something loose, and because it’s fun. 
 

Key is nervous which may or may not be a good thing.

 

Verb is absent, but that’s not uncommon during the work week. 
 

So we’ll see. I do have Gud in a solid town read. But why isn’t she posting? 
 

We’ll see.

This is where I posted he might be a wolf but not many others commented on it.

I thought the bikd might be an attempt to sow dissonance throughout the thread. It's day one, I get it reads will be wrong but attempting to build a town core is always important.

 

The gud read furthered my w/w reading as she was the only townie mentioned here.

 

We have a W read on Turin who he is voting now, so his gameplay is at least following his thoughts he is posting.

 

 

On 3/31/2025 at 9:38 PM, DPR said:

Go back and look at when I asked Gud how many games she’s played in. The quote from her post was her asking basic questions about the game. Either she’s a mafia savant and figured out within four games how to casually ask questions about basic stuff, or she’s town. There’s an off chance that she planned that with a team, but that seems very remote, so I have her as town. 
 

it would be good if she showed up again soon. 
 

Your read on the rest is noted. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you’ve never read me well, which is why I said to let the rest of the game jump in. There are folks here who can read me, so let them at it. 
 

I’ll definitely give a list before the end of day, don’t worry. 

 

I dont like the fact that he posts about gud here stating she is new or town. That isnt how random.org treats people. 

@DPR who would you say in this game is best at reading you?

 

On 4/1/2025 at 6:40 AM, DPR said:

Things on my mind this morning:

 

1. Turin has invited everyone to discuss whether or not Zander should have revealed his role on this early in the game. Turin's critique of it has turned into a bit of a lightning rod for him and imo, discussing why that happened is more important than his invitation. 

 

My take is that what's done is done. Zander is mod-confirmed Town IC and that gives the town a big advantage early in the game. Discussing Zander's reasoning for revealing seems like a way to add  unnecessary conversation to the game as opinions about this topic are not really indicative of alignment.

 

2. Key has attracted suspicion from a number of players. It would be worth clarifying the points folks have made regarding her. I'll do this in a bit. 

 

3. My overall opinion of Darthe is that he's trying to assume a leadership role. I'm not a big fan of anyone trying to do this so early in the game unless it's a mod-confirmed IC lol.  

 

  

 

 

 

I just disagree with the key and darthe bits. 

If this doesn't bother him about Turin it looks like the vote was  purely on the purely on the emotional aspect? I will get back around to it.

 

On 4/1/2025 at 9:19 AM, DPR said:

I’ve rr’d Key’s posts. A lot of posts are restating the obvious. Some are pushing old game traits like “wolfy Turin” or tying me to mechanics. She does some skittering to stay in neutral territory. I don’t feel any better about her. 
 

I’m gonna say there is at least 1 🐺 in 

Key/Hallia/Darthe

 This is a post. Congratulations on reading it if you came this far.

 

On 4/2/2025 at 5:51 AM, DPR said:

Is there any way you could nutshell this so that it makes some kind of sense? Not being sarcastic here, 

 

 

Did a double take here. Is this a “sounds good to me” post, or a “I can’t take it anymore” post?
 

The vote choices are not mutually exclusive, nor is either in any real danger, so I’m confused why you make it sound like it’s only a choice between Turin or Darthe and then state that you think it’s better to keep Darthe? Please, what is the logic here? 

 

You got any thoughts on Darthe’s post? 

 

So far, you’re doing a great job as the diceslanker. The old “I’m trying to catch up!” routine, while asking questions that have already been answered isn’t gonna cut it. 

 

If this isn’t a PR, I’m going to vote for you on d1 forever, no matter what. 

 

I don't remember if I talked about this, I wanted to see if people would Judy choose between the two tbh.

 

On 4/2/2025 at 7:30 AM, DPR said:

@Turin Turambar from a benefit-of-the-doubt angle, I’ve watched you become increasingly frustrated. Now, if I understand your post correctly, you’re saying that you decided to try and launch a moderately complicated plan to lay a LD trap on d1 based on your guessing of the game setup? 
 

Wouldn’t it have been easier to just quote the title of this game and say “looks like everyone’s got a role. Just in case there’s an LD, everyone state that they’re not mafia.” 
 

Feels like that might have saved time and trouble. 

 

On 4/2/2025 at 7:45 AM, DPR said:

Unvote Darthe while we sort through this

Aaand that was all my saved posts. I'll post some final thoughts tomorrow.

Not talking about my final conclusion or feels yet.

4 hours ago, keyholder21 said:

Back between classes, so trudging on...

 

 

@Gudrean - How are the bolded and underlined phrases any different?

 

 

Sure, but if you're playing in game with flavor, aren't you interested in at least knowing something about it because it could be helpful??? Or maybe I'm just crazy lol.

 

 

Why?? Connection between other players in terms of who they've interacted with and how much they've interacted with them and what they said is part of the game.

 

 

So you aren't concerned with how little she's been here? Or why she's defending Verb and DPR, especially DPR?

 

 

With this wrap up, I again think Gud is town and not great (yet) at hunting - maybe just on D1.  Otherwise leaves her wide open for attack when someone does flip wolf and she's got all these sweet reasons for thinking they are town. Could she be a wolf capitalizing on being new? Sure.  Maybe I'm just putting too much of how I play on her, but I don't see how this is good for a wolf. 🤷‍♀️ 

 

 

I don't like this.  I know Z says he's good at reading Hally, but there is always a chance he's wrong. You should do your own reading and make your own decisions, imo. 

 

 

Sure, but don't you think it's odd of her to make it sound like it must be between just those two when we had well over a day before the vote at that point?

When he was town in game 1 he wasn't super defensive but definitely was. Especially with Zander, but I think zander was just zandering the wolf schtick at him.

In game 2 as a wolf he was noticeably less defensive. and all warm and fuzzy like if you know what I mean? especially towards the end. 

I guess I think he defends more as a town.

3 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

id disagree. Most of my many mislynches have been driven by Town

 

 

We oughta lynch you for this. CULTS ARE NOT FUN!!!

 

 

 

thank you. I was hoping for like a "when she said THIS i had this reaction" sorta thing but thats fine.

 

So I think im caught up. 

 

I seem to be collecting town reads more than scum reads.

 

Town

Darthe  I just dont think theres any doubt here. Hes poking, asking questions, ive agreed with a bunch of things hes said. 

Key  Shes digging. Seems a little tunneled on gud but I cant complain about that. Agaain  have agreed with stuff she says

Seph  He just feels like hes on his town game to me. most of the game hes sounded and felt unrushed and relaxed. A bit less last few pages, but i think that may be to not really understanding what Verb and DPR were saying to him.

 

Null

Gud  other people who have played with her are sussing her but she sounds the same to me. 

DPR  some things ive liked some i havent. No real idea tbh

Verb I always find verb hard to read and his lack of activity so far isnt making it any easier. Dont think hes said anything bad but he hasnt said much really

Halli  lack of activity isnt helping. Is usually a Day 2 read for me, especially if she does a certain something there.

 

Null - Scum

Cass just isnt registering with me. Barely here. I think i get her vote on turin but im not seeing the normal way she posts.

 

Scum

Turin. 

 

 

 

 

 

Right so Vote Turin

 

This may be a bad vote cause a big part of it is irritation. Ive literally had this running thru my head even as i slept.

 

The other parts tho are inconsistency and now he has added a LAL element to it.

 

He had a post where he snapped at Darthe kinda hard, then took his ball and left the thread. Not something I normally associate with turin.

 

Has been soft claiming Washington most of the game but iirc literally said he was not him? Been representing LD but also said hes not that. Bought the LD up early for no real reason, I dont agree with his idea of worrying mafia, i think it just warns them and lately hes fixated on people saying their Town despite saying he didnt believe in the usual make everyone say their town schtick. So fixated his annoyed me into digging my heels in and refusing to say what he wants just because he wants it so much.

 

Has been focused on mechanics all game. Says hes been talkign theme but talking theme is posting music vids or what your fav part of the play was or little tidbits like apparently Lin got inspired because he heard they were taking Hamilton off the $10 note.

 

He is also the one who raised about their being fake claims and that he thinks there would be based off ithis modding history.  I can totally see Washington being a fake claim, would be the best one you can get really (cause youd never get Hamilton imo) So im really not trusting his claim. Especially as I dont remember him ever softing a claim like that before.

 

Thats not what hes been doing.

 

and now im adding LAL. Lynch All Liars.  He been softing Washing, repping LD but said he wasnt them AND said he wasnt going to claim. Like at all.  Then he claims  with only 3 votes and like 30 hrs before deadline?

 

Oh and he has added more inconsistency claiming Washington but now flashing IYKYK around.  Thats a Jefferson thing. Who is a political enemy of Hamilton.

 

So thats where im at

😄 

 

 

 

You know it's a bad vote but your making it anyway. 

I never lied. You are slandering me with this garbage. I NEVER SAID I WASN'T WASHINGTON. I DID SAY AT ONE POINT THAT I WASN'T SAYING I WAS WASHINGTON.  THE FIRST IS A DENIAL, THE SECOND JUST NOT A CONFIRMATION. I ALSO NEVER SAID THAT I WAS AN LD. I MERELY SAID THAT IN THIS CLOSED SETUP GAME IT WAS A POSSIBILITY.  I THEN SUGGESTED THAT EVEN THIS POSSIBILITY WAS A POSITIVE FOR TOWN BECAUSE IT MIGHT CAUSE MAFIA TO PAUSE BEFORE STATING CLEARLY THEY ARE TOWN.

Spoiler

I asked Darthe who replied after a few prods but didn't seem to want to say it.

I asked DPR, who replied fairly quickly but also didn't seem thrilled. 

I didn't have to ask Key. She saw part of my talking to Zander, figured it out and replied like a champ (she is also the only one who clearly did the recommended reading).

Gud may have understood  but in any case she gave an im town directly.

I asked you and Verb but I don't think either if you have replied. I really don't understand how if you are town it could be bad for you to say your town. Even if you don't trust me, why make the potential  LD claim in order to get info?

SHOW ME WHERE I LIED OR APOLOGISE. 

Theme is anything that is part of the tapestry of the game. I posted a specific message that should echo with you if you are town.

Spoiler

t was a fairly obvious thing. I started with Zander because he was the only confirmed townie,  so I thought it would resonate. Unfortunately,  he is too deep in his Turin tunnel to listen. That's why I was frustrated. I stepped back because I am trying to be kinder gentler Turin. 

I did mention  fake claims. I think the mafia will have them. If you choose to not believe that I'm George Washington I suppose fair enough. If your really town you should know the rest of what I claimed was true. Also,  your memory is faulty because I have sorted loads of character claims. I get run up a lot and have had to do it my fair share.

AGAIN,  PROVE WHERE I LIED. IT DOESN'T EXIST.

The iykyk is completely due to the message being sent to townies. If you didn't get the message, that might be on you. 

 

I asked Zander this before,  I'll ask you now. Who is "the town"? Whose side? 

 

Now it's late again. Ithi is asleep  and I have to start my day in less than 5 hours so bid you good night sir.

38 minutes ago, seph said:

This is talking about two initial posts from hallia, weird pre reveal talk. Early Turin townread. 

Ugh... 

I remember the misrep thing here going back and fourth.

Ughh...

This doesn't read that badly

There were things I remember disliking here on the initial post but it's more content than most.

Dahhh he liked my first reads list.

 

This queation to darthe is where I really started to pay attention to him, and I had the first gud comment in my head at this point. Trying to read with a clear mind and no ideas of entanglement.

Questioning darthe, at least he is following his own logic here, even if I don't approve.

 

A few Zander posts I liked when he was questioning dpr

 

This is where I posted he might be a wolf but not many others commented on it.

I thought the bikd might be an attempt to sow dissonance throughout the thread. It's day one, I get it reads will be wrong but attempting to build a town core is always important.

 

The gud read furthered my w/w reading as she was the only townie mentioned here.

 

We have a W read on Turin who he is voting now, so his gameplay is at least following his thoughts he is posting.

 

 

 

I dont like the fact that he posts about gud here stating she is new or town. That isnt how random.org treats people. 

@DPR who would you say in this game is best at reading you?

 

 

I just disagree with the key and darthe bits. 

If this doesn't bother him about Turin it looks like the vote was  purely on the purely on the emotional aspect? I will get back around to it.

 

 This is a post. Congratulations on reading it if you came this far.

 

 

I don't remember if I talked about this, I wanted to see if people would Judy choose between the two tbh.

 

 

Aaand that was all my saved posts. I'll post some final thoughts tomorrow.

Not talking about my final conclusion or feels yet.

This is just blatant tunneling.

 

You’ve been focused on vilifying me the entire day, to the extent that you haven’t been overly helpful with anything else.

 

You’ve mischaracterized me, twisted things I’ve said and attempted to turn nearly every post I’ve made into something that it wasn’t. 
 

It’s d1. All we can do is offer opinions without results to base them on.
 

I’ve offered my reads and put myself out there as the day has progressed. I haven’t argued anything - just put myself out there.

 

I voted twice, once for Darthe, who is still low on my list, because I don’t see what he’s done as being helpful to the town.
 

And my current vote is on Turin for acting like a wolf in pretty much every way that he could to a ridiculous extent. 
 

Thats pretty much all any of us can do until we get some info. 

 

And why ask who can read me? Ask the game, they’ll let you know. Or, if you’ve read 20 games to every 1 you’ve played, you should feel good about casing me instead of flailing. I’m not exactly unknown around here. 
 

Get yourself together and play the damn game instead of acting like a brat. 
 

 

 

11 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

You know it's a bad vote but your making it anyway. 

I never lied. You are slandering me with this garbage. I NEVER SAID I WASN'T WASHINGTON. I DID SAY AT ONE POINT THAT I WASN'T SAYING I WAS WASHINGTON.  THE FIRST IS A DENIAL, THE SECOND JUST NOT A CONFIRMATION. I ALSO NEVER SAID THAT I WAS AN LD. I MERELY SAID THAT IN THIS CLOSED SETUP GAME IT WAS A POSSIBILITY.  I THEN SUGGESTED THAT EVEN THIS POSSIBILITY WAS A POSITIVE FOR TOWN BECAUSE IT MIGHT CAUSE MAFIA TO PAUSE BEFORE STATING CLEARLY THEY ARE TOWN.

  Reveal hidden contents

I asked Darthe who replied after a few prods but didn't seem to want to say it.

I asked DPR, who replied fairly quickly but also didn't seem thrilled. 

I didn't have to ask Key. She saw part of my talking to Zander, figured it out and replied like a champ (she is also the only one who clearly did the recommended reading).

Gud may have understood  but in any case she gave an im town directly.

I asked you and Verb but I don't think either if you have replied. I really don't understand how if you are town it could be bad for you to say your town. Even if you don't trust me, why make the potential  LD claim in order to get info?

SHOW ME WHERE I LIED OR APOLOGISE. 

Theme is anything that is part of the tapestry of the game. I posted a specific message that should echo with you if you are town.

  Reveal hidden contents

t was a fairly obvious thing. I started with Zander because he was the only confirmed townie,  so I thought it would resonate. Unfortunately,  he is too deep in his Turin tunnel to listen. That's why I was frustrated. I stepped back because I am trying to be kinder gentler Turin. 

I did mention  fake claims. I think the mafia will have them. If you choose to not believe that I'm George Washington I suppose fair enough. If your really town you should know the rest of what I claimed was true. Also,  your memory is faulty because I have sorted loads of character claims. I get run up a lot and have had to do it my fair share.

AGAIN,  PROVE WHERE I LIED. IT DOESN'T EXIST.

The iykyk is completely due to the message being sent to townies. If you didn't get the message, that might be on you. 

 

I asked Zander this before,  I'll ask you now. Who is "the town"? Whose side? 

 

Now it's late again. Ithi is asleep  and I have to start my day in less than 5 hours so bid you good night sir.

tl;dr

10 hours ago, DPR said:

Everyone thinks they’re at Burger King…

 

Turin/Darthe/Seph are currently highest on my wolf list. I’ve already posted why. 
 

Key/Halli/ Cass have been leaning wolf for me but I see Key leveling out, so park her closer to null. 
 

Verb/dice/Gud are null with the caveat that it’s d1 and all three could go either way for reasons I’ve already stated. 
 

 

What are these reads?  I can’t envision a world in which your three wolves are wolves together.