12 minutes ago, Darthe said:

Wes what read, good or bad, are you most convinced of rn and why?

is Wes a nickname of a nickname?

yes I'm aware dread pirate/wesley - princess bride

It's nameception.

 

But which came 1st

For the Modess

In honour of the Ithiceratops, lol

Omg that's adorable 💙

The rest of my reads:

 

@Darthe is all over the place playing the provocateur. He's changed his vote more than anyone else and admittedly pushed multiple trains. I still have no idea what his stream-of-conscious post was about and I'd love for him to explain it. It's a little early to call WolfDarthe or TownDarthe, but I'm not a big fan of his coming out of the gate strong the way he has. I called him out for trying to assume early leadership and I see him fill-flopping votes more than making cases or building a core. 

 

@seph is clearly obsessed with pirates. I'm sure I'll be going point by point with him later, but it seems avoidable if he can see himself as tunneling and not actually having a point.

 

@Gudrean It's my first game with Gud and her third game. Multiple players that have played with her before are suspicious of her, so it would be counterproductive to not listen to them. I need to reread her posts because there was something she said in the last 24 hours that made me wonder how she knew it, but I need to find it. It wasn't damning, just subtle, but it stuck out to me. 

 

@keyholder21 and @Hallia have both been fairly inactive. I've seen posts from both that I *felt* like were posts for the sake of posting moreso than actual content. But, I do also understand that it's d1, that the post count has been a PITA to keep up with (looking at you Turin) and that they may very well kick into gear later in the game. Because this is based on a *feeling* I will transcribe my thoughts into Spanish, Egyptian Hieroglyphs and Interpretive Dance versions for dice in case he needs those lol.

 

@Verbal32 and @dicetosser1 are both doig what they normally do. Low activity because of work is nothing new for them. They'll be easier to read on d2 and d3. 

 

@Cass So far she has taken up the least amount of my thinking this game. I don't love some of her posts, but whatevs, d1, etc. Her following Darthe's vote on Turin bothered me because it came directly after his weird post, as if she understood what he was saying. She didn't give reasons or info, just hopped on that train. That bugged me. 

 

At this point, I'm looking to Zander more than anyone else for his reactions. That's what I got.  

 

 

I'll go ahead and Vote Turin

23 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

is Wes a nickname of a nickname?

yes I'm aware dread pirate/wesley - princess bride

 

I am indeed a Wesley (no t in my version) and that was the inspiration for my handle. Well, that and my love for rum and treasure. And my tendency to see rules more as guidelines. I will also say, imho, I do look smashing in black. 

Official Vote Count

 

DARTHE - 1 (Turin)

TURIN - 3  (Cass, Zander, DPR)

CASS - 2 (Seph, Darthe)

 

Not Voting: Gudrean, Hallia, Key, Verbal, Dice

 

6 votes required for a Majority.

 

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Hello everyone!  I am here and refreshed after a night's sleep.  I'm about to dig in.

55 minutes ago, DPR said:

 

I think it's unavoidable to see Turin as the "attention getter" of the day. The extensive WIFOM'ing is just bad - it hasn't been necessary or helpful, just confusing.

 

His constant referencing to the theme is bad - nobody needs to know anything about Hamilton to play this game - it's just flavor.

 

His back and forth with ZanderChild has been exhausting and come to nothing other than significantly padding the post count.

 

No other player has acted wolfier or been named as wolf more than him and he's definitely leaned into the excuse that everybody always thinks he's a wolf. 

 

These aren't even opinions, this is just a recount of his play so far. 

 

I've read the past couple pages, and skimmed the 8-9 before that.  It was mostly them.

34 minutes ago, DPR said:

I'll go ahead and Vote Turin

Pirate,  are you town?

1 minute ago, Turin Turambar said:

Pirate,  are you town?

 Lol LD WIFOM. Yes, I am Town. 

Interesting VC.  My D1 scum reads are interestingly Darthe & seph.  Super low confidence level, and only began with a single post.  But I noted a single post w/ Lenlo last game and was right, so I'll keep the reads alive until game information says otherwise.

 

Darthe:  his town core post - seemed to be looking for town cred

 

seph:  his reaction to Key's catchup/case post.  Specifically, he mentioned "nodding along with her points".  To me, that's pocketing 101 and a scumtell.

 

Neither are strong, but whatever.  And they are both voting Cass, which means I'm not voting Cass today.

1 hour ago, DPR said:

 

I think it's unavoidable to see Turin as the "attention getter" of the day. The extensive WIFOM'ing is just bad - it hasn't been necessary or helpful, just confusing.

 

His constant referencing to the theme is bad - nobody needs to know anything about Hamilton to play this game - it's just flavor.

 

His back and forth with ZanderChild has been exhausting and come to nothing other than significantly padding the post count.

 

No other player has acted wolfier or been named as wolf more than him and he's definitely leaned into the excuse that everybody always thinks he's a wolf. 

 

These aren't even opinions, this is just a recount of his play so far. 

Zander is the only Confirmed townie in the game. I have been trying to get him to see something he seems to refuse to see. I've tried to be subtle ( sort of). I will just say this.

 

I am town.

I am a Federalist. 

I AM GEORGE WASHINGTON. Lynch me and I will say goodbye. 

DARTHE - 1 (Turin)

TURIN - 3  (Cass, Zander, DPR)

CASS - 2 (Seph, Darthe)

 

Can't vote Cass as I've explained, and she & the IC are voting Turin along with DPR, who I'm currently fine with.  Would vote Darthe (as he's my bottom 2), but Turin is voting him, which is weird based on other wagons.

 

I'm not confident here.

3 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Zander is the only Confirmed townie in the game. I have been trying to get him to see something he seems to refuse to see. I've tried to be subtle ( sort of). I will just say this.

 

I am town.

I am a Federalist. 

I AM GEORGE WASHINGTON. Lynch me and I will say goodbye. 

 

2 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Zander is the only Confirmed townie in the game. I have been trying to get him to see something he seems to refuse to see. I've tried to be subtle ( sort of). I will just say this.

 

I am town.

I am a Federalist. 

I AM GEORGE WASHINGTON. Lynch me and I will say goodbye. 

You’ve said the “I will say goodbye” thing at least twice. Both times I have read it as a threat. Would you care to expand on this since you’ve revealed everything else? 

2 minutes ago, DPR said:

You’ve said the “I will say goodbye” thing at least twice. Both times I have read it as a threat. Would you care to expand on this since you’ve revealed everything else? 

Let me qualify this request lol - a short synopsis sans the emo will suffice. 

1 minute ago, DPR said:

You’ve said the “I will say goodbye” thing at least twice. Both times I have read it as a threat. Would you care to expand on this since you’ve revealed everything else? 

It is a line from the play. I'm not like a bomb if that's what your getting  at. I'm not gonna reveal my actual  role because I don't think it's productive.  You either believe or not.

 

Its kinda an IYKYK thing.

Starting where I left off.

On 4/1/2025 at 7:19 PM, Gudrean said:

Not where I see necessary, where HE sees necessary. 

On 4/1/2025 at 7:24 PM, Gudrean said:

Again this is not me deciding when necessary is it's just an observation of what they said themselves.

 

Arg, I messed up the spacing.  First quote above, okay, sure, but isn't that what we all do?  Post when we feel it's necessary? Except for maybe Z who likes to have hella high post counts lol.  Try and see it from my perspective.  It is a weird reason to use to see someone as town.  

 

On 4/1/2025 at 7:27 PM, Gudrean said:

Did you mean to say whole here? and it's because I was only seeing what you posted and not what people were quoting you on, hence why I said I would go back and do a more thorough check of the Whole picture

 

Yes, I meant to say whole, my b, stupid phone.  I feel like it's obvious that I was trying to say whole, though?  How else could that be interpreted? This seems like a catty, unnecessary correction.

 

Okay, but see, unless you were reading the thread for darthe and then only reading the profile for me, you should have also seen the back and forth leading up to suspicions on me, or have this same thing to say for darthe. 

 

On 4/1/2025 at 7:29 PM, Gudrean said:

I will work on the other 5 people starting with Turin tomorrow because it's a lot of reading and as you have said yourself. kids, husband, job etc.

 

Did you see the spoiler?  That was mainly a joke!  For reals, I get it, life happens. 

 

On 4/1/2025 at 7:33 PM, Gudrean said:

but if i'm being honest @keyholder21 your most recent post would change my tone read of you quite a bit, just saying. Still think you are town but...

 

Why?  Because I was asking you pointed questions?? 

 

On 4/1/2025 at 7:46 PM, Gudrean said:

I appreciate the concession here buddy and truth be told I really have only seen you as town so when you were acting differently it made me take a second lookey! 🤗 

 

Ugh, but this has me back to thinking newbie town. If wolf, why continue to bring up this exchange which had caused suspicion on her in thread? After Z's post she could have just said, "thanks bro" or something like it.

 

On 4/1/2025 at 9:01 PM, Darthe said:

Oh my god multiquoting sucks on a phone.  I have 4 things here and it’s gonna be the most important points I’ve made so far in the game.  No more need to talk to Turin, so ima talk to the rest of you who aren’t voting him yet.  Pay attention.

 

1) This is the least substantial but they’re in order of the responses to the above.  The pedantry between theme and mechanics is utterly meaningless post padding.

 

2) Turin has claimed things are a mafia scheme multiple times in this game.  Here, he’d like you to think a snap read in one game means I should have one in another game or my read is null.  That’s not how reads work, or the game, or wolfing for that matter.  Why is such an experienced player using such a fallacy?

 

3) Both Key and Turin have made the point that sentences are crafted… which is a total nonpoint.  I didn’t think I needed to be so specific as to say that the method in which he is crafting them seems contrived.  I expect that to be a point Turin argues but key also thinking it worries me that it is NAI.  No clue how someone interprets that in critiquing the structure of the English language but you get what it saying here.

 

4) I don’t have time or really the ability via phone to go back and do a post quote case against Turin, but does anyone feel kind enough to grab his posts between the Z reveal and the end of that day?  The question to ask yourself is why is he angry?  Quite my posts too for context please, there’s no reason for how fired up he’s gotten.

 

5) bonus: that last sentence is a straight up threat and I’ve no idea why no one ever mentioned it.

 

 

I’m not, though Turin said I was. I’ve been posting while I could and now you’re gonna see less of me.  

 

by your own internal logic if I’m town I’m gonna get killed, which is prob true, but crossing that narrative gap would undermine the push wouldn’t it?

 

Can we talk about how this post is only ever beneficial for W Turin?  I don’t even mean to tunnel here, but think about it in my situation.

 

 

There’s basically no pressure on him, you don’t gotta bus yet.
 

Fascinating that Z picked up on this later, so ima leave it alone cause it’s hard to delete.

 

 

this may be Gud first W game, that “it prolly sucked” line looks forced.  Following up on it is awkward too. 
 

100%

 

literally been dealing with this for like 20 pages off of a light w read.  It’s become the core of my read, just in his responses.

 

 

in other news if sephs a wolf ima just lose I guess, and DPR and verb are still totally null.  Really thought they’d both be more engaged by now.

 

Again, I feel like this is town darthe.  Maybe lolme, but I don't see experienced wolf darthe making this post. 

 

I don't get DPR being null though. Verb, I get, at least so far, but I feel like DPR has made enough posts and imo, some sketchy "reasoning" to get a read.  This is off this game alone because I don't remember playing in any games with him as a player, only as a mod. 

 

On 4/1/2025 at 11:00 PM, Cass said:

 

Vote: Turin

Darthe's WoT and the interaction between the two hurts my head, but so far I think there's more in favour of keeping Darthe around D1 here. 

 

This is a sketchy vote, imo.  Comes in out of nowhere and acts like we've got to vote one of Turin/Darthe but leaves herself an out with the bold.

 

On 4/1/2025 at 11:54 PM, Cass said:

 

 

DPR and Verb have both been about and posting/poking, so I disagree that they're not engaged. 

 

Some of DPR's play, especially wrt Gud, looks ?deeper and Townier than Verb's so far, IMO. LolPirates if I'm wrong. 

 

DPR has had more interactions that just with Gud.  In fact, I believe he had more interactions with me at that point, so this is an interesting thing to note.  Esp with a defense of DPR but no explanation on Verb. 

 

Cass/DPR team?

1 hour ago, DPR said:

The rest of my reads:

 

@Darthe is all over the place playing the provocateur. He's changed his vote more than anyone else and admittedly pushed multiple trains. I still have no idea what his stream-of-conscious post was about and I'd love for him to explain it. It's a little early to call WolfDarthe or TownDarthe, but I'm not a big fan of his coming out of the gate strong the way he has. I called him out for trying to assume early leadership and I see him fill-flopping votes more than making cases or building a core. 

 

@seph is clearly obsessed with pirates. I'm sure I'll be going point by point with him later, but it seems avoidable if he can see himself as tunneling and not actually having a point.

 

@Gudrean It's my first game with Gud and her third game. Multiple players that have played with her before are suspicious of her, so it would be counterproductive to not listen to them. I need to reread her posts because there was something she said in the last 24 hours that made me wonder how she knew it, but I need to find it. It wasn't damning, just subtle, but it stuck out to me. 

 

@keyholder21 and @Hallia have both been fairly inactive. I've seen posts from both that I *felt* like were posts for the sake of posting moreso than actual content. But, I do also understand that it's d1, that the post count has been a PITA to keep up with (looking at you Turin) and that they may very well kick into gear later in the game. Because this is based on a *feeling* I will transcribe my thoughts into Spanish, Egyptian Hieroglyphs and Interpretive Dance versions for dice in case he needs those lol.

 

@Verbal32 and @dicetosser1 are both doig what they normally do. Low activity because of work is nothing new for them. They'll be easier to read on d2 and d3. 

 

@Cass So far she has taken up the least amount of my thinking this game. I don't love some of her posts, but whatevs, d1, etc. Her following Darthe's vote on Turin bothered me because it came directly after his weird post, as if she understood what he was saying. She didn't give reasons or info, just hopped on that train. That bugged me. 

 

At this point, I'm looking to Zander more than anyone else for his reactions. That's what I got.  

 

 

The bold here... lol.

The obsession continues.

Follow the zander here is the easiest out. And this post rubs me the wrong way...

Look at my new siggy! 

 

Verbal emerges as a possible wolf?? I have 0 idea how someone views darthe as a wolf this game man. 

He might be all over the place but it isn't random and is poking in different directions, getting reactions, giving thoughts. If he is killed it gives so much info to the town. Besides Turin he hasn't been creating chaos, he isn't trying to lead with authority, he is exploring.

1 minute ago, seph said:

Verbal emerges as a possible wolf?? I have 0 idea how someone views darthe as a wolf this game man. 

He might be all over the place but it isn't random and is poking in different directions, getting reactions, giving thoughts. If he is killed it gives so much info to the town. Besides Turin he hasn't been creating chaos, he isn't trying to lead with authority, he is exploring.

 

See, here's my issue.  You already said one thing that is a scumtell (for me), and now you're doing another in response to my post.  Calling me scum because I disagreed and had a different viewpoint.  So instead of "hey, maybe he's just wrong", you went straight to "wolf".  Only sithscum deal in absolutes, my man.

 

Help me understand why that doesn't look bad.

30 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Zander is the only Confirmed townie in the game. I have been trying to get him to see something he seems to refuse to see. I've tried to be subtle ( sort of). I will just say this.

 

I am town.

I am a Federalist. 

I AM GEORGE WASHINGTON. Lynch me and I will say goodbye. 

I said a guy associated with cherries! 

28 minutes ago, DPR said:

You’ve said the “I will say goodbye” thing at least twice. Both times I have read it as a threat. Would you care to expand on this since you’ve revealed everything else? 

it's from the show!

Just now, Verbal32 said:

 

See, here's my issue.  You already said one thing that is a scumtell (for me), and now you're doing another in response to my post.  Calling me scum because I disagreed and had a different viewpoint.  So instead of "hey, maybe he's just wrong", you went straight to "wolf".  Only sithscum deal in absolutes, my man.

 

Help me understand why that doesn't look bad.

I said something was a scumtell for you, I legit don't remember that?
I more or less think you might be scum for the drastic differences in our views of this game. I feel like this has been very Town Driven. AKA hard for the wolves to intervene.
I also called you a possible wolf for it. You are in my POE so I appreciate the interaction.
What do you disagree with when it comes to my explanation of darthe, I felt you were misrepresenting him and saying LOL DARTHE. He is everywhere....
I do not see this in the slightest