5 minutes ago, Jaysen Gore said:

 

- minus 0 points for the random guy finding a thousand year old artifact in less than a day in some random junk shop for Mat. Hard to believe, but so was Bayle Domon having 2 of the seals in the books; Ta'veren gonna Ta'veren

 

To the best of my recollection Bayle only ever has one of the seals. He acquires it as part of his broader collection of ceundillar and it is his possession of it that gets him in trouble with the darkfriends and trollocs and then later with Turak, so it is by no means in the same league as just some random bar dude finding it.

16 hours ago, Irvyne said:

Egwene: "Rand, death can't be healed!" ... ... "Oh, except that one time I did it. LOLz."

 

Just keep changing how the OP works depending on what they want to do in that episode. 

 

12 hours ago, DaddyFinn said:

our heroes always managed to create needed weaves pretty much every single time even if they had no training or never made them before.

That's all the more reason to NOT give it a pass. By the time they're done, we may barely recognize the magic system in the show as the OP from the books.

A nice improvement from last week.  I liked most of the episode and good to see Thom and Fain back.  Also nice to be shown that the BA think they're so powerful but just how little they mean to the forsaken.  But they are really playing fast and loose with healing.  The other thing I disliked was Ishy finding Liandrian?  Why would a forsaken suddenly be there for some young girl?  I love the Ishy actor but that to me is another pointless addition.  

 

Not to mention I think once again they stole Rand's arc with once again someone running to his aid as he is about to fight a Forsaken.  I liked what Rand did at the end but did he really need to be saved to have a good Rand vs Evil fight?

Edited April 4Apr 4 by Sabio

3 minutes ago, Sabio said:

I liked most of the episode.  But they are really playing fast and loose with healing.  The other thing I disliked was Ishy finding Liandrian?  Why would a forsaken suddenly be there for some young girl?  I love the Ishy actor but that to me is another pointless addition.  

No prize answer - Ishy was searching with need in T'A'R, searching for women with the ability to channel and a willingness to turn to the Dark. I did catch the dream flicker that said he found her in her dreams

12 hours ago, DigificWriter said:

 

There was absolutely no chance that Rafe and Co. were going to go that far.

 

 

Any magic system in Fantasy - even a 'hard' one - is going to be utilized ('function', wasnt the right term to use) at the 'requirement of plot'. It's just a fact of the genre. Alanna needed to be Healed, so Mat's sisters were able to instinctively Channel the required Weaves to do so. It doesn't 'break' the magic system in any way because the narrative explanation can be the same one used for Egwene and Nynaeve: that they're incredibly strong due to the Blood of Manetherin running deep in The Two Rivers (both the village and the region).

Or here's an idea - they could have left out the contrived conflict between Alanna and Maksim, he would never have left her, and she would not have taken so many injuries.

17 minutes ago, Jaysen Gore said:

No prize answer - Ishy was searching with need in T'A'R, searching for women with the ability to channel and a willingness to turn to the Dark. I did catch the dream flicker that said he found her in her dreams

Maybe? I believe that he found her in the dream in the scene but searching with need for a channeler with a tendency to the dark feels a little out there. She would have to already be in the dream for him to find her in this manner which feels incredibly unlikely.

Everything they found with need in the dream was physically in the dream in the books.

Edited April 4Apr 4 by Mailman

9 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

don't accept a foresaken using a weapon, though. that's just silly.

What the heck was that supposed to be? It looked kind of like a OP version on Thor's Hammer. And he wasn't even effective with it.

1 hour ago, The_Watcher_And_Wanderer said:

Is this Juilin? I mean it’s a dark skinned man in a conical hat🤷

On the Amazon app, he's just listed as "Mat's Admirer."

I'm gonna guess the answer is no.

Juilin's hat was a fez.

49 minutes ago, Jaysen Gore said:

- everything except the scratch in the Moggy interview scene. That tells the girls someone with a lot of control with compulsion was in the room, and likely took the bracer, not some random thief. 

I saw that as Moghedien playing with Nynaeve, almost setting her a challenge to try and figure things out. If she is strong enough to break through the compulsion, she's a bigger threat than Moghedien first thought.

1 minute ago, Irvyne said:

I saw that as Moghedien playing with Nynaeve, almost setting her a challenge to try and figure things out. If she is strong enough to break through the compulsion, she's a bigger threat than Moghedien first thought.

Thats not moggy though she remains hidden never deliberately exposing herself unless forced.

33 minutes ago, Sabio said:

I liked most of the episode.  But they are really playing fast and loose with healing.  The other thing I disliked was Ishy finding Liandrian?  Why would a forsaken suddenly be there for some young girl?  I love the Ishy actor but that to me is another pointless addition.  

Yeah, this is suggesting that he could touch the real world for like, 100 years.

I also really miss the original Ishamael from the book, the tall imposing, scary man, whose eyes and mouth are furnaces of fire. The actor here plays it fine, I guess, but he's not scary. Rand's dreams in Book 1 are among the most impactful and memorable scenes in the whole series for me, and I was really sad they were 99% removed for the screen adaptation.

14 minutes ago, Mailman said:

Maybe? I believe that he found her in the dream in the scene but searching with need for a channeler with a tendency to the dark feels a little out there. She would have to already be in the dream for him to find her in this manner which feels incredibly unlikely.

Everything they found with need in the dream was physically in the dream in the books.

Okay - try Egwene being drawn towards Gawyn's dream, and then sucked in for happy time. a stretch, but not a big one, if a scared little girl was calling out for power and revenge in her dreams, that would draw him

6 minutes ago, Mailman said:

Thats not moggy though she remains hidden never deliberately exposing herself unless forced.

Seconded - If Moggy thought this half trained chit of a girl was a threat, she would have ended her quicker than she did Ispan

1 minute ago, Jaysen Gore said:

Okay - try Egwene being drawn towards Gawyn's dream, and then sucked in for happy time. a stretch, but not a big one, if a scared little girl was calling out for power and revenge in her dreams, that would draw him

But that was extreme feeling that drew those dreams together, extreme love or hate by both parties.

Without that he would have to basically scour every dream that was radiating negative emotions till he happened across one that could channel.

1 hour ago, divica said:

However, things improved a lot on the second season. I thought I would drop this show somewhere during that season but I think the only really big flaw I remember now is that rand should have done something eye catching when he killed villain at the end of the season and not just stab him.

You weren't put off by an entire season of Moiraine thinking she was stilled and arguing with Lan over nothing, then suddenly realising, LOL, wasn't stilled the whole time! Time to use the Power way outside of my capabilities and forsake my Tower oaths to just murder a bunch of people who don't even know I'm there?

Or Elayne unable to walk because of an arrow in the leg, but somehow managing to climb a tall tower and get to the top before anyone else?

There were so many things wrong with season 2. I think it was only marginally better than season 1. Nynaeve's trip through the arches and Egwene's capture by the Seanchan were the highlights for me. Really great acting all around in those scenes.

Thankfully, on the whole, season 3 seems to have improved in quality quite a bit. Let's hope it continues.

13 minutes ago, Fiona_12 said:

What the heck was that supposed to be? It looked kind of like a OP version on Thor's Hammer.

My DnD mind popped out "Shillelagh?!" during that scene.🤣

 

Upon further further inspection and  reflection … I bump this episode down to a 1 out 10. lol

Why, you say? That’s a huge reduction?!
 

Well, Because (as someone else pointed out I think) the Cold Open says “Tanchico 95 years ago” … 

And ends with Ishy helping Liandrin. Ummm… if Ishy was free 95 years ago that raises a bunch of questions… and plot holes. 
 

Also, as someone else pointed out - I rewatched it like 10x in slow motion… 

those are definitely flaming swords they gave Avi. And … Sammael was stabbed from behind through the heart one moment - perfectly fine the next? 
And they had an Aiel slice Egwene and her fall back onto the bed and then fine the next moment to run out and then fine to watch the attempt at healing death. 
 

Sooo yeah… at this moment … man, the lack of ability to write/execute a good fight without someone being massively injured one moment and then fine the next… that’s really really bugging me now. 

 

1 hour ago, Jaysen Gore said:

everything except the scratch in the Moggy interview scene.

That jumped out at me immediately! Moghedien is supposed to be all about caution, and that was just reckless. Or she thinks they are really stupid and won't realize something fishy went down. 

They giggled a little too much, which was a very strange thing to hear Nyaneave doing, but the way they answered her questions so eagerly was right on point. Best scene of the show IMO.

 

Moghedien is beyond creepy! Has the actress played this kind of part before? 

 

Does anyone know why her fingers are black?

I didnt mind Ishy being free, but him appearing to Lilandra really made no sense.  At the time she was a nobody so it will always seem odd his appearing to her.

 

Why do the battle scenes always have to be so dark?

2 minutes ago, Fiona_12 said:

Does anyone know why her fingers are black?

 I thought the show tied the black fingers to making Grey Men and sucking their souls out of them? Maybe I misremember. 

3 minutes ago, Fiona_12 said:

That jumped out at me immediately! Moghedien is supposed to be all about caution, and that was just reckless. Or she thinks they are really stupid and won't realize something fishy went down. 

They giggled a little too much, which was a very strange thing to hear Nyaneave doing, but the way they answered her questions so eagerly was right on point. Best scene of the show IMO.

 

Moghedien is beyond creepy! Has the actress played this kind of part before? 

 

Does anyone know why her fingers are black?

Ohh I forgot about the moghi scene. Yeah it made no sense her wanting them to forget then leaves a scratch and takes the bracelet as if they wouldn't notice either.

Oh also … I’m like 100% convinced now that Sammael is replacing Asmo. 
I really don’t think he’s dead. 
 

Oh and also - the reason my opinion dropped so much is because now my confidence level that the Battle of the Two Rivers next episode is gonna be good … has dropped to like 2%

It’s gonna be crazy dark. It’s gonna be unrealistic. And Id bet you (even if you were Matt) that someone (Faile probably) or a whole bunch of people (all the main characters in the TR) seemingly “die” but not really! Lol

7 minutes ago, DreadLord31 said:

 I thought the show tied the black fingers to making Grey Men and sucking their souls out of them? Maybe I misremember. 

That's probably right. I didn't think of it as her sucking their souls out. We were told earlier that they give up their souls, weren't we, not that their souls are taken. So I guess she is like a drahgkar.

6 minutes ago, DreadLord31 said:

Oh also … I’m like 100% convinced now that Sammael is replacing Asmo. 
I really don’t think he’s dead. 
 

Oh and also - the reason my opinion dropped so much is because now my confidence level that the Battle of the Two Rivers next episode is gonna be good … has dropped to like 2%

It’s gonna be crazy dark. It’s gonna be unrealistic. And Id bet you (even if you were Matt) that someone (Faile probably) or a whole bunch of people (all the main characters in the TR) seemingly “die” but not really! Lol

The interesting thing is since there has been no caravan into the waste how they plan to hide/disguise Samm as his teacher.  Lanfear did say something to Moiraine about sending Rand a surprise and let Rand deal with it, so I think she meant for Rand to capture Samm.  It would seem odd for them to off Samm so fast,