[RolePlay] Weaving a new Path

Posted January 18, 200817 yr

Andrea Collet to estelbloodylio., sirhowlinghorr., DeAnna, Jaydena, Kate, Reetta, taeadawn

show details 12/31/07 (12 days ago)

Hey Everyone!

I got this great Idea for an RP plan, although this is more from me as

a player than a DL, hence bringing it to your attention than plotting

on the side with various people. Mostly so we can pull more to this

than just my characters, but also to put something more plausible into

the two Tower's current timelines. :)

Who I included and Why:

Alyssa - Your characters Estel and Brent will play an odd part in all

of this, if you are willing :) Also, You are head of the Blue Ajah,

and my future blue will be part of this.

Miya & Lily - Red Sisters to which I trust with the position of

"Highest" should you decide that way.

Jenny & Crista - My AGL's and rp approval people. That and Lyssa might

be bonded to Mae at some point.. If Jade is willing to be active

enough for it.

Kate - BT DL. :)

Reetta - You play Annais. Let me know who else you will pull into

this. There is only so much I want revealed publicly until it happens

IC (including James :P). Also you are the GL of the PotD. (I will

include Steve when we have a more solid plotline.)

Now that I have that out of the way...

My characters:

Maegan Ryanne - Highest

Diona Tapadera - Blue/Black Sister

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Maegan's goal is to reunite the Black and the White Tower. Be believes

fervently that with the coming last battle it is imperative that they

work along side each other as brothers and sisters as they once did in

the past. Believing that both male and females are equals in knowledge

and ability (or strength).

> This will come into play in the "Day Old Hate" thread at some point, if even just hinted.

She also strongly feels a need to rid the Tower of the Black Ajah, and

to do so it by uniting the Ajahs (not by colour but on a more personal

level). As a experiment, or perhaps to prove a point (lol), Maegan

will insist to have Estel Sedai (The mentally unstable Blue) a respite

of the Oaths while then including her into the 'hunters' or those that

acknowledge the existance of the Black Ajah after Estel steps through

the 3 Arches for a second time.

> This was the plan, last I talked to you, Alyssa. Let me know if this changes anything or something else has changed. :)

Another is she conspires to replace the Oath rod with the Truth Rod

that she (eventually will) created.

RP Idea:

Diona (My Blue/Black) Learns of this, also bares the knowledge that

Maegan knew of the Black Ajah yet kept it to herself as a personal

vendetta, starts to spread rumours that Maegan is a strong supporter

of the Black Tower. (Scandalous for a Red! At least according to any

outside of the Red Ajah. The Red's know better.) She also generates

the rumour that it had been Maegan's fault to which the WT Sisters

were captured by the Black Tower in the first place. Causing death and

Stilling. (I can not remember who, IC, started the whole Idea, but

meh... )

Unable to deny the 'support of the BT' rumour when approached, as well

as a few other underlining rumours. (Diona knows of Maegan and Annais'

friendship from a previous hate for the woman. and can easily question

Maegan's support for the new Amyrlin, her hiding the ability to create

Ter'Angerl (as it will be revealed at some point around Este;s

Arches..) as well as other things. (Be very willing to fill in the

blanks here. :))

Maegan will in turn flee to the Black Tower in a self imposed exhile.

In turn she invites the Reds (and any other willing) to join her, with

Brent's permission of course. Diona conspires to rid the Tower of the

Red Ajah (or what have you, in her hate for the Ajah.. )

- Mae is ither replaced as Highest, or acts as Highest Via her Travel

Journals away from the Tower. (Up to Lily and Miya be that the case).

- Diona Becomes Head of the Black Ajah. (Ata is stepping down so we

need an Active Black Ajah Head and a nasty conspirator taking over.

These are just thoughts, ideas, on my end. I'm fairly certain that

(after discussing with Reetta) Mae can convince Annais to unbond Estel

from the Oaths with the help of Lillian. (James only needs to know of

this part of the plan.)

What do you ladies think? :) (Don't forget to "reply to all" when

responding :))

Andrea

Head of the Red Ajah

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Lily Wang to estelbloodylio., DeAnna, Jaydena, Kate, Reetta, taeadawn, me

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Hey Mum and everybody else,

Maegan will in turn flee to the Black Tower in a self imposed exhile.

In turn she invites the Reds (and any other willing) to join her, with

Brent's permission of course. Diona conspires to rid the Tower of the

Red Ajah (or what have you, in her hate for the Ajah.. )

- I would be willing to join her, if Brent and Maegan will have me

Mae is either replaced as Highest, or acts as Highest Via her Travel
Journals away from the Tower. (Up to Lily and Miya be that the case).

- I could help with Travel Journals if need be, but Lily doesn't want to be highest. She would support Miya, though Saline doesn't have power beyond that of an ordinary sister.

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DeAnna Ross to Lily, me, estelbloodylio., Jaydena, Kate, Reetta, taeadawn

show details 12/31/07 (11 days ago)

Hello Everyone,

I have a lot of thoughts on this plot but I'm really on my way out the door for a bit so I don't have a lot of time to put them all down. So, I'll stick to the major stuff.

1. Assuming that Miya goes Red (which is a high posibility, as we've discussed) I certainly have the oc experience to do the Highest position justice. I'd be willing to work with you on that but I had been hoping to play n/a for a bit before rushing to AS. Kinda hoping I'll get some people to express interest in the GPCN again. So far I've gotten nothing, though that may be due to the holidays and recent raisings. Just the same... I'm willing to step up and will decide Red so long as no one who has been here longer than me has an issue with that. I certainly don't want to rock the Red boat as it were.

2. The story could be good... I see why writing Mae out of the Tower so you Black can step up to leadership works out nicely. With the Brother's Keeper story arc previously run, I can see why some reds might follow Mae out of the Tower on the mission of reuniting the two... however... let's not forget there are extremist on both ends. Some Reds (and god I hate admitting these ones exist) are like elaida from the books and just hate men on principal and male channelers most of all. I doubt they will take orders from Mae who will have walked off with their rival faction (we'll call them the Reunification faction) when they themselves will be happy to have the Red Ajah of the Tower to themselves. A moderate becoming highest (someone who has an acceptance of the necessity of Reunification but sympathies to the Seperatists) might be a likely consequence of Mae's departure, also a true hard core Seperatist might be put into the position just on sheer numbers being in her favor once the Reunificationists walk.

My suggestion: Mae realizes things are going south for her in the final hours before she has to decide to depart from the Tower. Calculating she will leave the Tower in the hands of the Seperatists if she and most of the Reunification faction leave (and for obvious reasons not wanting that) she makes her last act as Highest ... calling for a vote of no confidence on herself and letting the full Ajah pick a new Highest. With Mae's faction still with her there and able to vote, the vote will go to someone who is more moderate in thinking... someone who won't leave but someone who isn't hard core against the BT boys. This gives Mae the power to protect the future of the Reds in the Tower while still departing with her faction to make strides towards reunification.

Okay, gotta run.

*hugs*

-Miya

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In turn she invites the Reds (and any other willing) to join her, with

Brent's permission of course. Diona conspires to rid the Tower of the

Red Ajah (or what have you, in her hate for the Ajah.. )

This part I have issues with. Unless Diona is planning on killing the Red Ajah individually... exactly how is she getting rid of the Red Ajah? Some might leave, but not the whole Ajah. Also... you said anyone willing to join her could leave for the BT. I'm confused about this. As Annais is working out the alliance with the BT (or is already in place if I understand it) then why would anyone need to leave the Tower because they supported the BT? They might not be popular for admitting it aloud (and as it was pointed out there are sure to be certain man hating elements in the Tower to focus on this) but the Hall agreed to the acknowledgement of the BT as an equal and to give it legitmacy. I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to flee the Tower at this time. And Mae certainly has the backing of the Amyrlin and Keeper for both her views of reunification and of the Black Ajah.... I think i'm missing something in all this...

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Andrea Collet to taeadawn, estelbloodylio., sirhowlinghorr., deannamross, jaydenasedai, KeddyBear, lupaecainis

show details 12/31/07 (11 days ago)

This is why I love you all. You poke holes in my ideas to make them

more plausible. Best editors ever!

Lily:

"- I would be willing to join her, if Brent and Maegan will have me."

Excellent! I would love that. ^_^ With Miya as Salines mentee it would

make for a very interesting circle with Mae as a mastermind. :D

Miya:

I like your suggestion, it is a very good one. And I could go with

that, seeing how Mae was placed as highest in rather quick succession

after Perine. She had a strong set of rules and held the Ajah together

but after the incident with the BT i'm fairly certain that she is

going to rile many feathers. An Rp should be taking place after with

Maegan call all IC reds forth to discuss these matters and the

direction. I expect there to be opposition. (It was mentioned there

was in Knife Point Confessions to Annais)

However, I do not plan to see this played out for a long while yet.

Reason for this is A) I want to give Ata time to find a Black Ajah

replacement without me switching over. Be that the case I still want

to do something like this, if maybe not for the BA Head, but the

storyline. It would be good for Mae to learn she is fallible. B) I

want to establish our characters and the Red Ajah (and blue) before

jumping over. I've never played a black before and it would hardly be

fair for me to jump up and take a Ajah Head position of an Ajh I

barely understand. :)

That said, I feel like a puppet master as I am sure that strings will

be pulled by Mae on Saline who will in turn place them on Miya.

*smirks*

Crista:

Excellent point! I don't know! :D

The thing is with the Dragons call for channelers, and the WT's

acknowledging the Black Tower as an Equal, the Red Ajah has no

apparent purpose. The whole of the Tower knows this, but do not forget

they are man-haters. Yes each have their individual causes, but with

the knowledge that (in our PSW) the Red Ajah was created by request my

male channelers from long ago, their cause has come full circle. Many

will not wish to change this as they joined the Red for their hatred

of men and the slights against them. To turn back now is like.. An Aes

Sedai renouncing the knowledge of Saidar without being stilled or

burnt out. It doens't work. But their armour has been kinked this way.

The point to which Diona plots is to undermine the need for the Ajah.

In a way they do it themselves from within, but Diona is discrediting

their abilities as there no longer is a need. The reds are torn in

two. One side is fighting tooth and nail to keep their reputation and

continue thousands of years of tradition, while Maegan and select

others are trying to shape and mold the Ajah into the next age along

side thier Brothers of the past. (Something I do not expect to be done

anytime soon. At least not for a good 5-6 years Ooc.)

The point at which, Yes Annais is trying to pull the two towers

together, the unaligned Reds and Many others only saw this "equality"

proclamation as a means to an end. They needed thier sisters back, and

it was a way to do it. What was done is done, but not all sisters

swore an oath to abide by it. After all the Oaths are only sworn about

Saidar, not the actual Tower. Many will oppose the equality and

combining (of any kind) with the Two Towers. This is so on both sides.

(And since i'm thinking a little off topic) Mae leave not just

because of fear of the Hall, but as a way of action. Problems are not

solved by talking (which is all the Hall does, really) but by the

action and example of the members within the Tower. Maegan leave not

just because things are getting out of hand, but because she wishes to

do something about it and pave the way for future workings. After

all, it is easer for an Aes Sedai to live in the BT than a man from

the BT to live in the Tower. :)

Any other thoughts? :)

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So what you are talking about really is a splitting of the Red Ajah, man haters staying in the Tower and those who want to work with the BT eventually leaving to join it, all the while a Black Sister is working within the Tower to try to discredit the Reds and cause it's demise. I likes! At least, I like the idea. As long as the Red Ajah isn't really made obsolete. I happen to like them :P But it would certainly make things more interesting in the Tower to have a very negative current working in the Hall in regards to the BT. And as a plot point... it could very well turn the Hall against the Ammy and Keeper, forcing them to work around the Hall to try to get things done :P Which means more fun for Annais, Aramina, and Meagan :P After all, Aramina has a lot of experience at getting things done without others knowing it... and if you have Estel on our side... well... they have been involved in this sort of thing before :P

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I have just now come home from holidays, and will have a more comprehensive read through and get back to you soon, just wanted to let you all know I've seen it. :)

Oh, and happy New Year everyone! ^_^

Kate

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Andrea Collet to Kate, taeadawn, estelbloodylio., sirhowlinghorr., deannamross, jaydenasedai, lupaecainis

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Happy New Years, and welcome back!

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DeAnna Ross to taeadawn, me, estelbloodylio., sirhowlinghorr., jaydenasedai, KeddyBear, lupaecainis

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In response to the below:

If we lock down the tower reds to ONLY man-haters (to use a very generalized term here) then recruiting for the red ajah of the drpsw will become near impossible without supplying another enticement for new players to consider the ajah (see below.)

Years of experience with playing red ajah tells me VERY FEW people want to play a complete man-hating, close-minded sedai as their primary character. As an NSW, sure, but not all the time; they feel it limits their play to be unable to change and to interact with the other sex. I think, honestly, that most players find it unfathomable how any character would become so completely jaded and unreasonable as to not be able to have basic interactions with men. Truthfully, while I can see some characters becoming so set in their ways, I have a hard time seeing the majority of reds becoming this way (as Jordan's reds seem to be, sadly.)

Anyway here's my thoughts/ideas on the matter (for what they are worth) ...

#1) We'll have to becareful and make it known that while the majority of reds who are left behind in the White Tower are against immediate reunification with the black tower (likely due to 1. being set in old ways, 2. fearing the taint isn't really cleansed, 3. the recent incident with the dead/stilled/imprisoned sisters) that doesn't mean new red sisters can't be moderate thinkers without being shuffled off to the BT to play such a concept. Players should feel free to play moderate thinkers but with the understanding that they are the exception in their ajah, not the rule and likely they recieve a lot of flack for it from the hard-core man-hater types. That's a lot of stress to live with. The reds are usually pretty tight knit in their cause, as most ajah's are, being a black sheep of the family (so to speak) is hard. Some may find this alluring to play, others will want to avoid it.

#2) Another way to deal with this ... to reallys split the red ajah (if this is the route you want to take) would be to give the Tower Reds something to do. The BT Reds will be working for reunification and that makes for a lot of rp possibilities but the truth is WT Reds can't go out gentling male channelers a'la the old days due to the Dragon and the Amyrlin's repercussions on such actions. This pretty much leaves WT Reds stilling around the Tower getting pissier by the moment. LOL. It also doesn't make for an alluring pitch to novices and accepted ("come play a red and sit around wishing you could gentle the men you hate!)

However, if you consider that the red ajah of our DRPSW's cause isn't "gentle male channelers" but "Protect Humanity from Another Breaking" ... well, the cause is a bit more broad and there is ways to keep the Red Ajah in the Tower viable and active. How? Well, slowly but surely everyone and it's dog is learning about the Black Ajah (or at least fearing it) ... If I were Amyrlin and saw 1/2 of the largest Ajah walk (leaving behind only the most difficult to deal with reds) I'd find somethng to keep them busy that so fits their cause that they couldn't turn it down.

I'd go to the Red Sitters and present them with a proposition. Since the hunting of male channelers is no longer practical in the world as it stands, perhaps the red ajah would consider protecting humanity but ensuring the security of the world's most important protection force... the White Tower.

If the scarey term of "witch hunters" comes back to mind when you think about the Red Ajah with a duty like that... well, you'd be right. Yes, this could have a plot or three where the Red Ajah's more excentric members do wrong by people... yes the black ajah could abuse this a'la Arie's paln... and yes, they could prove so damn effective at their job that the Tower becomes more secure and the blacks of the Tower are forced to become smarter and more descreet (meaning despite individual failures and individual zealots, the tower would still support the reds doing this job.) All these things are great for internal story in the Tower where sometimes, well, the same old stories are told again and again.

It seems to me, short of protecting the world of insane male channelers, the next best way to protect the world from being ripped apart by channelers would be to ensure that the Tower is full of Light fearing women with only the best intentions. The Reds seem like the type of Sisters (to me) who would be bold enough to say, "Look, we've all figured out ways to be less than honest even with the oaths... maybe it IS possible that some of us aren't working for the Light and if we dont' find those people soon... any battle plan we make against the shadow is at risk of failure."

Okay <end babbling>

-Miya (aka Telcia)

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I'd go to the Red Sitters and present them with a proposition. Since the hunting of male channelers is no longer practical in the world as it stands, perhaps the red ajah would consider protecting humanity but ensuring the security of the world's most important protection force... the White Tower.

Love it!

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Andrea Collet to Lily, DeAnna, taeadawn, estelbloodylio., jaydenasedai, keddybear, lupaecainis

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I'd go to the Red Sitters and present them with a proposition.
Since the hunting of male channelers is no longer practical in the

world as it stands, perhaps the red ajah would consider protecting

humanity but ensuring the security of the world's most important

protection force... the White Tower.

I'm in awe.... I Love that Idea..!!

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“As a experiment, or perhaps to prove a point (lol), Maegan will insist to have Estel Sedai (The mentally unstable Blue) a respite of the Oaths while then including her into the 'hunters' or those that acknowledge the existence of the Black Ajah after Estel steps through the 3 Arches for a second time.”

What point would that be? That Estel’s so completely deranged that she can’t get any worse no matter how much more emotional torture you subject her to? Lol... All jokes aside, yes I’m totally still up for this—Arches are already writing themselves in my head!

“Maegan will in turn flee to the Black Tower in a self imposed exile. In ! turn she invites the Reds (and any other willing) to join her, with Brent's permission of course. Diona conspires to rid the Tower of the Red Ajah (or what have you, in her hate for the Ajah...)”

“The point at which, Yes Annais is trying to pull the two towers together, the unaligned Reds and Many others only saw this "equality" proclamation as a means to an end. They needed their sisters back, and it was a way to do it. What was done is done, but not all sisters swore an oath to abide by it. After all the Oaths are only sworn about Saidar, not the actual Tower. Many will oppose the equality and combining (of any kind) with the Two Towers. This is so on both sides.”

You’ve got Brent’s perm! ission. For some reason Brent likes Maegan...don’t ask m e why, she nearly started a war in the Black Tower. However, there’s the slight problem of Linten and his faction in the BT. Linten already has a personal vendetta against Mae and Saline, being Red, isn’t any better off, so the question will be how to keep them safe. About 1/3 of the BT is highly against any connection to the WT—violently so.

“Kinda hoping I'll get some people to express interest in the GPCN again.”

Might have another Novice soon that would definitely be interesting in the GPCN and may end up a Red aspie.

“And as a plot point... it could very well turn the Hall against the Ammy and Keeper! , forcing them to work around the Hall to try to get things done :P After all, Aramina has a lot of experience at getting things done without others knowing it... and if you have Estel on our side... well! ... they have been involved in this sort of thing before”

Not that Estel was highly effective...stupid Stel. But Estel’s limited skills are yours to abuse, she needs someone to latch herself onto now and it looks like either Maegan or Annais (though she won’t like working with Ara).

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"The point at which, Yes Annais is trying to pull the two towers together, the unaligned Reds and Many others only saw this "equality" proclamation as a means to an end. They needed their sisters back, and it was a way to do it. What was done is done, but not all sisters swore an oath to abide by it. After all the Oaths are only sworn about Saidar, not the actual Tower. Many will oppose the equality and combining (of any kind) with the Two Towers. This is so on both sides."

Umm, what Oaths are you refering to now? The Hall made a decision that the BT is equal and according to the Tower Law, every Sister, including the Sitters is bound to act accordingly. If they want the matter changed, the Hall must revoke it. But they can't exactly as it was announced to the whole world. And going against that would make the Tower look bad which no one wants.

And come on :) Every Aes Sedai knows that they are bound strictly to the Tower and nothing else. To say anything else would violate the spirit of everything the Aes Sedai stand for.

You've got Brent's permission. For some reason Brent likes Maegan...don't ask m e why, she nearly started a war in the Black Tower. However, there's the slight problem of Linten and his faction in the BT. Linten already has a personal vendetta against Mae and Saline, being Red, isn't any better off, so the question will be how to keep them safe. About 1/3 of the BT is highly against any connection to the WT—violently so.

This is exactly the reason why Annais would be against Mae going. She would make Brent's position untenable and could switch the balance to Linten's side as many BTers don't want AS snooping around there. Also Annais is afraid what happens when most of the moderate Reds leave.

I suggest that neutral meeting point is established and the Reds, and who ever else go, reside there. Then the BTers who want to interact with them (or are ordered to) can go there. It might not be as handy OOC but it is logical ICly. It could still be ICly under the Farm board, people just have to make it clear in their posts that they are not in the BT itself.

"I'd go to the Red Sitters and present them with a proposition. Since the hunting of male channelers is no longer practical in the world as it stands, perhaps the red ajah would consider protecting humanity but ensuring the security of the world's most important protection force... the White Tower."

Yes! I really like this idea. It should also be pointed out that not all 'nice' Reds need to leave. Some of them could stay behind just to make sure that the Tower doesn't forget how to deal with the BT in the right way. Also the Sisters 'leaving' are basically on a mission. It won't last forever and they can Travel back to Tower every day if they want to.

In fact, Annais would insist that the Reds spend some time weekly in the Tower to curb the worst rumours about the Towers uniting and what not.

"And as a plot point... it could very well turn the Hall against the Ammy and Keeper! , forcing them to work around the Hall to try to get things done :P After all, Aramina has a lot of experience at getting things done without others knowing it... and if you have Estel on our side... well! ... they have been involved in this sort of thing before"

Works for me :) More drama and politics = good. I think that many Sitters would think that Annais sent Maegan away to do that, which would not make her more popular.

Not that Estel was highly effective...stupid Stel. But Estel's limited skills are yours to abuse, she needs someone to latch herself onto now and it looks like either Maegan or Annais (though she won't like working with Ara).

Annais will try to mend the rift. She was a Gray after all :) But like you said, Estel is very resistant to fixing, so it should be fun.

Reetta

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