And no I am not talking about the prophecies. As far as I know they have no bearing on this game as we are not going to different locations.

Then why did he have to proclaim himself the Dragon Reborn? What purpose did it serve?

 

I thought I answered that in my post. The Prophecies. It didn't activate powers for him - he could channel regardless.

Doh. Ninja'd.

 

Ok then, color me confused. I'll wait for your enlightenment.

Don't discount that. Aemon has had a recent habit of trying to play like Mynd. And this is exactly something that Mynd would do.

 

Don't discount what?

Song I think you're just relieved to have people stop looking at your own weird reveal and happy to see Aemon take the heat. As for Red - I enjoy it when you get all aggressive (*rawr* ) but let's call a spade a spade here - you put a lot of energy into suggesting that Asmo might be innocent. No one would do that without some kind of purpose motivating them.

 

Alanna is correct - Aemon does like to do this sort of thing - he enjoys taking risks and making big flourishes to try to stir things up, and there is every chance he is lying. Right now I can't tell - I'm going to watch and see if he trips himself up but in the meanwhile watching people's reactions to him tends to be interesting.

 

Let's take David for example:

 

Yes you're right, good spotting! :D That would mean that claiming DR could be the truth(which in my opinion I think aemon is telling the truth) or a clever ploy to divert attention away from something. Plus it's dangerous because then wouldn't aemon now be a target for a night-kill, in case he is important for the townies?

 

If aemon is not telling the truth, then by diverting attention to himself, he's protecting other people. Perhaphs he's protecting the people he was accusing throughout the game, such as Red.

 

Also aemon could be using this as a ploy so that he can get protection during the night, and leave the doctor open for a night-kill. It's a long shot but it might be worth it. (not really in my opinion)

 

David do you have any other theories you'd like to share? You've gone from stating you believe Aemon to thinking he's lying to protect someone to thinking he's lying to trap the healer. This reads like someone trying to stir up as much confusion around Aemon as possible.

Vote David

Rand never really came into his own until he proclaimed himself the Dragon Reborn and accepted himself as a channeler. Up to that point he was just a scared little boy with no direction in his life except trying to stay alive and one jump ahead of the Forsaken and their helpers. When he took Callandor (no, I do not have Callandor in this game) and vanquished Ishamael he made the conscious decision to learn to control his power and do his duty.

 

That being said, I was told that I could reveal anytime before Day 4 and that once I revealed I would get a power. Before proclaiming myself the Dragon Reborn I was vanilla. Now I am not.

Also aemon could be using this as a ploy so that he can get protection during the night, and leave the doctor open for a night-kill. It's a long shot but it might be worth it. (not really in my opinion)

 

 

Don't discount that. Aemon has had a recent habit of trying to play like Mynd. And this is exactly something that Mynd would do.

 

Don't discount what?

 

 

See bolded.

Rand never really came into his own until he proclaimed himself the Dragon Reborn and accepted himself as a channeler. Up to that point he was just a scared little boy with no direction in his life except trying to stay alive and one jump ahead of the Forsaken and their helpers. When he took Callandor (no, I do not have Callandor in this game) and vanquished Ishamael he made the conscious decision to learn to control his power and do his duty.

 

That being said, I was told that I could reveal anytime before Day 4 and that once I revealed I would get a power. Before proclaiming myself the Dragon Reborn I was vanilla. Now I am not.

 

THAT, my friend, is a proper answer. For now I buy it.

Song I think you're just relieved to have people stop looking at your own weird reveal and happy to see Aemon take the heat. As for Red - I enjoy it when you get all aggressive (*rawr* ) but let's call a spade a spade here - you put a lot of energy into suggesting that Asmo might be innocent. No one would do that without some kind of purpose motivating them.

 

Alanna is correct - Aemon does like to do this sort of thing - he enjoys taking risks and making big flourishes to try to stir things up, and there is every chance he is lying. Right now I can't tell - I'm going to watch and see if he trips himself up but in the meanwhile watching people's reactions to him tends to be interesting.

 

Let's take David for example:

 

Yes you're right, good spotting! :D That would mean that claiming DR could be the truth(which in my opinion I think aemon is telling the truth) or a clever ploy to divert attention away from something. Plus it's dangerous because then wouldn't aemon now be a target for a night-kill, in case he is important for the townies?

 

If aemon is not telling the truth, then by diverting attention to himself, he's protecting other people. Perhaphs he's protecting the people he was accusing throughout the game, such as Red.

 

Also aemon could be using this as a ploy so that he can get protection during the night, and leave the doctor open for a night-kill. It's a long shot but it might be worth it. (not really in my opinion)

 

David do you have any other theories you'd like to share? You've gone from stating you believe Aemon to thinking he's lying to protect someone to thinking he's lying to trap the healer. This reads like someone trying to stir up as much confusion around Aemon as possible.

Vote David

 

Or a thinly concealed attempt to get information.

Song I think you're just relieved to have people stop looking at your own weird reveal and happy to see Aemon take the heat. As for Red - I enjoy it when you get all aggressive (*rawr* ) but let's call a spade a spade here - you put a lot of energy into suggesting that Asmo might be innocent. No one would do that without some kind of purpose motivating them.

 

Alanna is correct - Aemon does like to do this sort of thing - he enjoys taking risks and making big flourishes to try to stir things up, and there is every chance he is lying. Right now I can't tell - I'm going to watch and see if he trips himself up but in the meanwhile watching people's reactions to him tends to be interesting.

 

Let's take David for example:

 

Yes you're right, good spotting! :D That would mean that claiming DR could be the truth(which in my opinion I think aemon is telling the truth) or a clever ploy to divert attention away from something. Plus it's dangerous because then wouldn't aemon now be a target for a night-kill, in case he is important for the townies?

 

If aemon is not telling the truth, then by diverting attention to himself, he's protecting other people. Perhaphs he's protecting the people he was accusing throughout the game, such as Red.

 

Also aemon could be using this as a ploy so that he can get protection during the night, and leave the doctor open for a night-kill. It's a long shot but it might be worth it. (not really in my opinion)

 

David do you have any other theories you'd like to share? You've gone from stating you believe Aemon to thinking he's lying to protect someone to thinking he's lying to trap the healer. This reads like someone trying to stir up as much confusion around Aemon as possible.

Vote David

 

In this game you can't be fixed one idea (For example believing that a player is innocent/mafia) but you have to change when different things come to light and you see the responses of other more experienced players to certain actions like aemon's reveal. I've only conjectured what aemon could be doing and I wasn't fixed because as Alanna said aemon always does these kind of things and she can't understand why. So, I'm only putting forward possible scenarios to his role-reveal, and I'm not saying anyone should believe me anything but to keep our minds open about the possible ploys that could be going on.

Check the bolded part of your post, Red. You are trying to lay the groundwork for a "town" Asmodean. Also, for a WoT geek (like everyone else here) you seem to be woefully ignorant of my use of Balefire in the series. On my way to Tear I balefired Hellhounds right. I'd have to go back and check the books to see what number the events fell in (Hellhounds were in The Dragon Reborn) but I have also balefired Rahvin, Hellhounds that were attacking Matt in his apartments, defending the Stone of Tear against the invading Trollocs and Myrrdral. There are inumerable instances of my use of Balefire. That being said, in this game I do not have Balefire at my disposal, much to my regret. As to why I chose to reveal early, I ask you this: What was Rand before he proclaimed himself the Dragon Reborn?

 

i was stating my opinion on the character in the book, not my thoughts on what Asmo would be in this game. un like you, i'm not a WoT geek, i enjoy the series but i don't pick it apart becuase it's just too big to do so for me.

 

i was not laying the groundwork for anything, but as scum i would expect you to attemtp to twist it as so.

 

as for the Balefire, i was speaking more of Rand's willingness to use the Balefire. until TGS, Rand used Balefire reluctantly, only when forced into a corner. with the Darkhounds, it's the only way they could be killed (wasn't it Moriane that killed those the first time?), with Rahvin, it was self defense because and to bring back people who were killed, and with the stuff in Tear (this is the fight where Nyn also went one on one with Moggy in the Dream World over the Bowl of Winds right?) Rand was at the beginings of being over taken by the taint, and if memory serves me correctly Rand wasn't the only one using Balefire. the Forsaken (Sammel i think) was trying to hit him with it as well.

 

Rand didn't get all giddy with using Balefire, or see it as a preferable means for using it to destroy his enemys until he was almost the DO's puppet in TGS. your casual "joke" on using it to destroy enemy's says to me that your intentions are foul; that or your taken by the taint *cough* Taim *cough* you seemed almost giddy at the chance to use Balefire, and i can only see scum being giddy and happy about the thought of using Balefire considering the effect it might have on this game.

 

 

also, how about answering my question, i see that you managed to tap dance around that one Dark Friend. how about answering the questions i asked you ... or will answering those questions poke too many wholes in your False Dragon claim?

 

 

 

If aemon is not telling the truth, then by diverting attention to himself, he's protecting other people. Perhaphs he's protecting the people he was accusing throughout the game, such as Red.

 

wow, trying to distance yourself much? first you come out 100% supporting Aemon's claim; now you're trying to link me with him and cast doubt on his claim. as scum, its better to pick one story and stay with it, not flip flop like a a fisherman caught in his own net.

I understand my reveal was a little weird but not untrue and since I have been dying really early in games for stupid reasons, I figured I'd address the issue head on before it was brought up by scum or someone else to try and get me lynched early. I understand my play is normally scummy and I'm fine with that. I find it highly productive on both sides. I figured if there was a way to show ppl I'm town, this is it.

 

I agree that was aemon has said has made some sense, a lot more than it did at first so I'm going to UNVOTE for now.

Song I think you're just relieved to have people stop looking at your own weird reveal and happy to see Aemon take the heat. As for Red - I enjoy it when you get all aggressive (*rawr* ) but let's call a spade a spade here - you put a lot of energy into suggesting that Asmo might be innocent. No one would do that without some kind of purpose motivating them.

 

Alanna is correct - Aemon does like to do this sort of thing - he enjoys taking risks and making big flourishes to try to stir things up, and there is every chance he is lying. Right now I can't tell - I'm going to watch and see if he trips himself up but in the meanwhile watching people's reactions to him tends to be interesting.

 

Let's take David for example:

 

Yes you're right, good spotting! :D That would mean that claiming DR could be the truth(which in my opinion I think aemon is telling the truth) or a clever ploy to divert attention away from something. Plus it's dangerous because then wouldn't aemon now be a target for a night-kill, in case he is important for the townies?

 

If aemon is not telling the truth, then by diverting attention to himself, he's protecting other people. Perhaphs he's protecting the people he was accusing throughout the game, such as Red.

 

Also aemon could be using this as a ploy so that he can get protection during the night, and leave the doctor open for a night-kill. It's a long shot but it might be worth it. (not really in my opinion)

 

David do you have any other theories you'd like to share? You've gone from stating you believe Aemon to thinking he's lying to protect someone to thinking he's lying to trap the healer. This reads like someone trying to stir up as much confusion around Aemon as possible.

Vote David

 

In this game you can't be fixed one idea (For example believing that a player is innocent/mafia) but you have to change when different things come to light and you see the responses of other more experienced players to certain actions like aemon's reveal. I've only conjectured what aemon could be doing and I wasn't fixed because as Alanna said aemon always does these kind of things and she can't understand why. So, I'm only putting forward possible scenarios to his role-reveal, and I'm not saying anyone should believe me anything but to keep our minds open about the possible ploys that could be going on.

 

How can one be fixed on any story/idea if one doesn't know anything?

That was a reply to red's comment about me distancing myself.

*kicks DM for not telling her there were new posts*

 

Red - I enjoy it when you get all aggressive (*rawr* ) but let's call a spade a spade here - you put a lot of energy into suggesting that Asmo might be innocent. No one would do that without some kind of purpose motivating them.

 

David do you have any other theories you'd like to share? You've gone from stating you believe Aemon to thinking he's lying to protect someone to thinking he's lying to trap the healer. This reads like someone trying to stir up as much confusion around Aemon as possible.

Vote David

 

lol i've been playing alot more aggressively lately *catcalls Aust*

 

i'm not suggesting Asmo might be innocent, only that i don't think he'd be aligned with the rest of the Forsaken; assuming (logically of course) that the Forsaken are our scum team. but there are other anti-town roles besides scum, and in a game this big, it's foolish to thnk we're dealign with the simple scum vs town. the reason i think of this is because of how he was treated, both by the other Forsaken & by the DO himself. and yes, i do think that the DO's distaste for wanting to re-use the soul of one of his Forsaken because he feels Asmo is no longer of use a big flag on Asmo's character within the series. especially with the dwindling number of Forsaken in the book series at the end of ToM. (this is all unrelavent to the game btw as our time line onle goes to LoC)

 

 

i'm glad soemoenn else has noticed Davids flip flopping on Aemon. thoguh it reads to me more like a team mate trying to distance themselves.

 

 

Rand never really came into his own until he proclaimed himself the Dragon Reborn and accepted himself as a channeler. Up to that point he was just a scared little boy with no direction in his life except trying to stay alive and one jump ahead of the Forsaken and their helpers. When he took Callandor (no, I do not have Callandor in this game) and vanquished Ishamael he made the conscious decision to learn to control his power and do his duty.

 

That being said, I was told that I could reveal anytime before Day 4 and that once I revealed I would get a power. Before proclaiming myself the Dragon Reborn I was vanilla. Now I am not.

 

i'm not buying this totally; i can't see putting pressure on a player to reveal & proclaim themselves as the DR in orer to activate a power. it puts too big of a target on their back. so i'll still be pressuring you on this reveal because it stinks, but for now my vote goes on

 

VOTE: DAVID personally i think you and Aemon are on a team, so i think right now your corner report will give me the most info.

 

the thing about Rand not commign into his own; him accepting himself as the DR had no baring on him being the DR. whether he hid from it, or he accepted it, he still woudl have been the DR. we know this from teh visions of his alt lives we saw when he used the Portal Stone with Verin (in tGH i think) the only difference made was that if he hid from it, the DO woudl win; by accepting his fate, he gave the Light a fighting chance. i still don't see how this woudl fit with being forced to reveal to gain a power ...

 

 

 

In this game you can't be fixed one idea (For example believing that a player is innocent/mafia) but you have to change when different things come to light and you see the responses of other more experienced players to certain actions like aemon's reveal. I've only conjectured what aemon could be doing and I wasn't fixed because as Alanna said aemon always does these kind of things and she can't understand why. So, I'm only putting forward possible scenarios to his role-reveal, and I'm not saying anyone should believe me anything but to keep our minds open about the possible ploys that could be going on.

 

in this game you also dont support a claim 100% like you did with Aemon unless you have inside info

 

Yes you're right, good spotting! :D That would mean that claiming DR could be the truth(which in my opinion I think aemon is telling the truth) or a clever ploy to divert attention away from something. Plus it's dangerous because then wouldn't aemon now be a target for a night-kill, in case he is important for the townies?

 

 

notice in your original post quoted above. you throw your support automatically to Aemon's claim, and even try to disuade against a flase reveal saying "it's dangerous so he woudln't claim it unless it was true"

*gah* my internet keeps crashing at work

 

 

UNVOTE

 

 

VOTE: DAVID

If I had to say someone was acting suspicious, I'd say it is our local poet. His unique style of posting makes him someone that we like to hear from and we look forward to his posts, it is a clever tactic to keep people from voting for him. That being said, this doesn't mean he is a Darkfriend at all, could just be a smart citizen Andor looking out for himself any way he can.

 

 

This termanology kinda struck me...Nobody has referred to scum as darkfriends even though it is WoT Mafia. Maybe a term in the message from the mod?

 

Totally agree here. Freudian slip, perhaps?

 

Vote: bgrishinko

 

What is this Mafia thing you speak of? I've never heard of such a group. Do you mean the Whitecloaks? It seems there is talk of a Dragon about. That is dangerous talk.

 

UNVOTE;

Vote: *Scribbles the Dragon's Fang on AEMON's house*

So now you're voting for a revealed Rand al'Thor? Can you help me understand why you would do that?

 

What is this Mafia thing you speak of? I've never heard of such a group. Do you mean the Whitecloaks? It seems there is talk of a Dragon about. That is dangerous talk.

 

UNVOTE;

Vote: *Scribbles the Dragon's Fang on AEMON's house*

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So, you really think voting for the Dragon Reborn is a good idea?

I call False Dragon.

woudl you care to explain why you think he's a false dragon??

 

i'm not saying he's not, but it woudl be good to have an explination as to why you think so.

DM didn't keep my multip quote button *glares at DM*

 

So now you're voting for a revealed Rand al'Thor? Can you help me understand why you would do that?

 

i wouldn't assume he's Rand. there are 2 other characters to claim being the Dragon (3 if you count the Car'n'Carn in the Aiel Prophecies).

Aemon & Aust you two are top of my list for twisting my words. i did not, and have not tried to claim Asmo is town; i'm merely stating that i think he's more likely to be a solo than mafia aligned given how his character turned out.

 

i've said this 3 times now; seems like you two really want to get rid of me for some reason? scared i might sniff you two out as scum and see through your slight of hand too easily?

 

 

 

Checking in again. This has been a crazy mess to follow. I'm just gonna have to pick a number.... VOTE AEMON

 

so your doing a random vote, 2 days away from the deadline you do a random pick a number vote. theres 12 pages of info here, are you purposefully ignoring all of that??

 

 

Besides, as the Dragon Reborn I could always just Balefire the lot of them. Problem solved.

 

 

i'm not buying this claim, and David backing you up reeks of scum. why claim the DR? there was no pressure on you. what does this gain you, other than trying to sway people to believe what your saying? why, as the DR, woudl you even want to claim it? more than liekly, the true DR has a very good power benefical to the town and would want to stay hidden. it's likely he has Callalandor and is ultra powerful in some way.

 

the best thing for him to do is stay hidden. so i'm not buying this claim at all! it sounds more like scum attemtping to draw out the the real DR.

 

 

besides, balefire?? are you serious?? you do realize that the Rand only willingly used Balefire when he was channeling the true Source and was basically "Darth Rand" any sane person would not want to use Balefire.

 

you sound more like Taim, tell me, do your little dreadlors call you Ma'Hal as well.

 

 

 

 

i'm thinking this as well. obviously he can't confirm it, but if items are character specific there are only two characters who a rhyming item woudl fit. Thom & Asmo. and since the timeline for this game goes through book 6 Asmo may or maynot be a bad guy; by book 6 he was dead, but he had also basically turned good due to what Lanfear had done to him.

 

 

Check the bolded part of your post, Red. You are trying to lay the groundwork for a "town" Asmodean. Also, for a WoT geek (like everyone else here) you seem to be woefully ignorant of my use of Balefire in the series. On my way to Tear I balefired Hellhounds right. I'd have to go back and check the books to see what number the events fell in (Hellhounds were in The Dragon Reborn) but I have also balefired Rahvin, Hellhounds that were attacking Matt in his apartments, defending the Stone of Tear against the invading Trollocs and Myrrdral. There are inumerable instances of my use of Balefire. That being said, in this game I do not have Balefire at my disposal, much to my regret. As to why I chose to reveal early, I ask you this: What was Rand before he proclaimed himself the Dragon Reborn?

 

Rand never really came into his own until he proclaimed himself the Dragon Reborn and accepted himself as a channeler. Up to that point he was just a scared little boy with no direction in his life except trying to stay alive and one jump ahead of the Forsaken and their helpers. When he took Callandor (no, I do not have Callandor in this game) and vanquished Ishamael he made the conscious decision to learn to control his power and do his duty.

 

That being said, I was told that I could reveal anytime before Day 4 and that once I revealed I would get a power. Before proclaiming myself the Dragon Reborn I was vanilla. Now I am not.

 

I have taken the liberty of bolding the questions you have asked and the answers I have already given you. I do not believe you are skimming this thread, so it makes me think you are trying to misinform the people that are not paying much attention to the game. I am very comfortable with my vote on you, Red.

Aemon could be making it up. We've been told anyone can claim to be The Dragon. Also, if we are going by the timeline of books 1 - 6, Rand does not proclaim himself early on. Aemon has to proclaim before Day 4. False Dragons believe themselves to be real. We also know that in the early books there are multiple False Dragons running about. They believe themselves to be the real Dragon though. That's generally why they proclaim, unless they are Darkfriends. Aemon may Mazrim Taim. His early proclamation makes me wary.

I would edit that post cause I repeat myself, but no edits :(