Checking in really quick from cruise - I targeted Wombat last night but got no results.

 

Vote Tina.

 

Don't see why everyone is so hesitant to make this plunge, Tina is pinging the hardest and 2 town RB's is extremely unlikely. Get out there and vote, peoples!

 

Also, I really wish Song would quit claiming credit for Sakaea's lynch I pressured everyone on my list to reveal, and Kae ended up slipping in her fake claim and we caught her on it. Your findings on Kae didn't really help us lynch her in any way imo. Either way be safe out there.

 

/still waiting on apology from Red and others who criticized my strategy of pressuring for reveals from those on my list

I'm not sure which way to go on the Tina/BG coin flip. I find BG's targets more likely to help mafia. He blocked the claimed Watcher N1, a claimed Town Inventor N2, and the claimed town BD N3. Wher Tina claims to not have blocked anyone N1( mafia would not give up a blocking chance imo), blocked wombat also N2, and seems to have blocked BG N3. I think N2 was an aberration with everyone going to visit wombat that night. Tina has just seemed a bit off. I guess I'm okay with either one for a lynch.

 

tbh, this whole "I should get credit" thing between you two is bewildering. Who cares who gets credit as long as the mafia go down. It smacks of trying to hard to vet yourselves. It just looks odd. Maybe it is just Alpha behavior.

 

I don't recommend you hold your breath waiting for those apologies. although then I can use a PB quote, "I do not envy you the headache you will have when you wake. Sleep well and dream (only of your new wife)".

 

*flips coin* Vote: Tina

Red - you are right - Leelou should have been seen with Wombat too. I have seen at least one game where the doc has been seen targeting himself but that might be different here. But I can´t believe you are choosing to ignore the rest of my post. Why would I bring anything up that would make me look more scummy? Des should have seen Leelou and the killer (and maybe Wombat) but he didn´t see any of them. Why not? That is an important question that you just ignore. Turin does it too.

 

Either no one targeted Wombat and in that case Leelou is lying. (And maybe Wombat too.) Otherwise Des is lying. Des could have been blocked too. Not by me, because I blocked BG, and not by BG, since I blocked him. Did Leelou switch Wombat with someone else that no one targeted? That would give Des that result. Either way, it doesn´t look like the killer targeted Wombat and that indicates that Leelou is lying.

Tina, i'm not ignoring entire posts.

 

 

Remember last night. Des saw a lot of people targeting Wombat although everyone was switched to Ley. But this night he didn´t see anyone targeting Wombat. If that is correct then Wombat didn´t target himself and no one tried to kill him. So the switch (if there was one) couldn´t cause Mmeesh death. Something is weird here. BG couldn´t have anything to do with it since I blocked him. (He can of course be mafia but he was not involved with the death.) Help me out here. Who is lying? Leelou? Wombat? Des?

 

Is it wrong for people to come out and reveal their roles to help clear it out? I have asked this before but I don´t think that anyone but Leelou answered. We have already killed three mafia members so we are good so far.

 

 

i suppose your talking about the underlined correct. i've saide many times that i think your lying about being a RBer. i've also said that Des's reveal backs up BGs claim of blocking leelou. this means that the block never happened and it's the SK (you) that likely took out Meesh.

 

 

as for the call to mass role reveal, this is scummy to me. and will only help the scuma nd Sk cherry pick their targets and put Womby ina major bind.

I see how you are thinking now. For me this can´t be true since I know that I´m town and I know that I blocked BG. So lets discuss other possibilities. You are entitled to your suspicions about me but since I know they are wrong I would like to go through other scenarios.

 

There are a lot of people not talking. Tell us what you think about all this. And give me your opinions about a mass reveal.

well tina the only other scenario i see is where the BD is scum honestly and we see how people recieved that line of thought

I´m leaning on voting Leelou instead but I´m not sure I have put the pieces right.

Unofficial vote count:

 

Tina- BG, Wombat, Red, Despo, Turin

 

BG - Song, Pants, Leelou, Tina

 

Leelou - Red

 

 

 

Not voting: Amadine, AH, Locke, Tiink

(I think that is right, if not let me know)

 

Tina I think I have been consistent in my stance that a mass reveal will help mafia more than town.

I think a key to this mess is figuring out how Turin died. There's an unsolved mystery there. It seems right now that Meesh died from Leelou driving her and Wombat.

 

Does everyone else think that he was just a random Mafia kill?

"It seems right now that Meesh died from Leelou driving her and Wombat. "

 

 

AH, you do realize Des is claiming no one visited Wombat last night right. so care to clarify your houghts on this more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

gah hit enter too soon.

 

 

as for Turin i dunno. i'm stumped as to why the scum would target someone on Des's report, as it helps to clear the air so my first instinct is to say he was targetted by the SK; but that doesn't mesh with the info we have from players and the scum wouldn't NK one of their own ya know.

 

 

i have another thought, but i'll keep that to myself right now

 

 

*Sigh* I wasn't wanting to do this.

 

I know for a fact that someone targeted Wombat last night, so something is fishy with Des seeing no one visit him. What would it say if he was RBed? Would that show up as a no result?

 

Even if no body but Leelou targeted Meesh, Leelou's target would still show up on Des' report. I'm still not completely convinced on Des.

Aside from that, sorting out Tina and BG situation probably would be more useful right now anyway. That unsolved mystery is just itching at me though......

 

I need to do another reread to look at Tina and BG however, so for now my vote will just sit.

Are you saying that you targeted Wombat last night?

I would like to know how that guy Turin got killed too. I think I blame Des. seriously tho my thought is that the mafia got tired of trying to kill Wombat and picked the next, next best target (first best would have been Des, but they apparently let him off as a honeymmon present). Hey that means I still get to blame Des.

 

Maximus the jailer was getting on some people's radar also.

Are you saying that you targeted Wombat last night?

 

I felt that even though some stuff got cleared up, there was still something fishy there. Yes, I targeted him.

I would like to know how that guy Turin got killed too. I think I blame Des. seriously tho my thought is that the mafia got tired of trying to kill Wombat and picked the next, next best target (first best would have been Des, but they apparently let him off as a honeymmon present). Hey that means I still get to blame Des.

 

Maximus the jailer was getting on some people's radar also.

 

XD

 

Turin, I am lucky to know you

Are you saying that you targeted Wombat last night?

 

I felt that even though some stuff got cleared up, there was still something fishy there. Yes, I targeted him.

 

And I'll explain why in more depth once I'm done with classes for the day and am not doing my homework between posts :P

Well aint this a pickle. I need to draw this out for it to make any sense now.

Hold up a sec AH. That means whatever you did, actually was done to Meesh.

 

 

Tina's last post got a bing sized ping from me. it's pretty obvious what AH was saying honestly, so you fishing for more and askign that question is scumtastic imo.

 

that said

 

*Sigh* I wasn't wanting to do this.

 

I know for a fact that someone targeted Wombat last night, so something is fishy with Des seeing no one visit him. What would it say if he was RBed? Would that show up as a no result?

 

Even if no body but Leelou targeted Meesh, Leelou's target would still show up on Des' report. I'm still not completely convinced on Des.

 

if he was RB'd he would have gotten the same results as N1 which was nothing. but Des claims to have gottena report back which indicates he wasn't blocked.

 

 

the only reason i don't question Des's reveal is cause the only way he'd know those people targetted N2 is if he is a watcher. and i dunno if i can buy a scum watcher tbh.

 

 

 

I would like to know how that guy Turin got killed too. I think I blame Des. seriously tho my thought is that the mafia got tired of trying to kill Wombat and picked the next, next best target (first best would have been Des, but they apparently let him off as a honeymmon present). Hey that means I still get to blame Des.

 

Maximus the jailer was getting on some people's radar also.

 

why Turin, got inside info on that kill now /snarkiness

 

 

the only thing i don't buy with the scum offing Turin is that it removes the confusion surrounding Des's report. the theres more scum on that report like we all think, they'd want to keep as many people around on that list to help post pone the lynch on their team mate. it also keeps the confusion going as well. so my instinct is to say Turin was taken out by the SK.

 

but again, that doesn't mesh with the BD being blocked

Hold up a sec AH. That means whatever you did, actually was done to Meesh.

 

 

 

UNVOTE VOTE: BG

 

the above statement doesn't mesh with what you've been preaching.

 

first you think theres too many RBers, then you claim Tina is a scum RBer. and earlier weren't you expressing doubt on if Tina even targetted you.

 

 

yet the above post says to me that you believe the BD went through and by default believe Tina's RB on you did work.

 

 

add in Songs report, it looks even worse. and now your trying to insinuate Meeshs kill was because of AH.

unless ofcourse your lieing about who you blocked BG

Um no. I've been pretty consistent in believing Tina blocked me and have been accusing her of being a mafia RB. That was kinda the main point of my vote. Wombat doubted the block and the target if I remember right. Your basis for changing the vote there is flawed. As such, I still believe that whatever AH did, ended up on Meesh.

DAY 4 Vote

 

BG (5): Song, Pants,Tina, Leelou, Red

 

Tina (4): BG, Wombat, Red, Des, Turin

 

Leelou (0): Red

 

 

With 13 left, it take 7 to lynch

 

 

Tina comes off scummier than BG

 

Vote Tina

 

Reds voting process is pretty nonsensical and as I read it, it seems like she's confusing the situation more than helping.