But consider. The surprises you speak of, I wouldn't like most of them. I don't like heroes being awesome. I TOLERATE it. And what reason do I have to continue reading if not to get to something I might like.

 

I'm paranoid and scared that I'm not going to like anything. And whenever I do mention something that I like (like Mogheiden getting inside Nynaeve's head) you seem to snuff it out.

 

Dude RJ is strange, its known that he hates killing his characters, so naturally the good guys are awesome(but not unrealistically)

 

 

Yeah I think the same way, lolguy. He thinks he is unbeatable so he doesn't really care about being imprisoned again. He only cares about Ishamael and keeps him alive through all the ages (if we can believe what he said), because true supporters are almost non-existent.

Again, I don't mind the heroes being awesome. I just rarely enjoy it. Ever. My enjoyment always comes from the challenges they face and the people who stand in their way. The Antagonists. The fact that they win is just something I put up with out of necessity (I hate it when bad guys win). It's fine as long as their oobstacles are impressive

So wait, Cloud, do you ACTUALLY like Ishy?

You are searching for a lot of realism, but keep in mind that you are reading fantasy books :P

Yeah I like ishy, why?

Oh, someone called him an incompetent hack. He's like one of my favourite characters.

 

... odd that the Forsaken keep calling him insane. He was the only one making sense in the first 3 books from where I was standing.

Dude you'll notice that all the heroes have a bit of their innocence lost with every battle, and soon as you'll soon find out is what the DO means by "let the lord of chaos rule".

 

I don't think he cares about anyone (even ishameal) but cuz ishameal knows what the DO's goal is,the DO likes him (in this age, you don't know about the next)

 

 

So the Dark One actually has a plan, right?

 

Messana mused that perhaps everything that's happened up until now has happened as the great lord of the dark predicted

I always liked Ishy and Rand through all the books. They actually came dangerously close to becoming friends at some points, or that's at least the way I saw it. They understood each other at least. I won't be surprised if they had a good chat in the last book before they battled it out.

Oh, someone called him an incompetent hack. He's like one of my favourite characters.

 

... odd that the Forsaken keep calling him insane. He was the only one making sense in the first 3 books from where I was standing.

 

He is, was, cuz he was a philosopher have you ever heard of a sane one??

 

 

I always liked Ishy and Rand through all the books. They actually came dangerously close to becoming friends at some points, or that's at least the way I saw it. They understood each other at least. I won't be surprised if they had a good chat in the last book before they battled it out.

 

Wait, is this the "Tiki Mikk from D Gray Man" version of almost becoming friends? Where they act friendly despite Ishy still obviously being a villain?

 

Oh, and if RJ hates killing off characters, then what of poor Rahvin and Be'lal? :(

I'm not a fan of D Gray Man, so I'm not familiar with the characters. But yes to that friendly part despite Ishy being the villain, but that comes later in the books (where Rand is being evil and all that).

i meant the main one's.

 

dude in the end imo WoT is actually a lot more realistic than most of the fantasy series available

I ust don't like how the villains are the underdogs. Or at least they feel like it. Rand is the dominant force here. Not The Forsaken.

 

It just doesn't feel right.

and since when have I cared about realism for the sake of realism? Never. I'm interested in entertainment. Always have

... I want to hug Pedran Niall :(

 

He tries SOOOOOO so hard. I actually felt a lump in my throat

Okay, the Cairhiens trying to adopt Aiel customs is just adorable!

The DO is actually really stupid..

 

(spoiler for EmerorAllspice)

 

I'm paraphrasing Verin here: "Even after 40 years of studying, I'm still not sure what the Dark One's true intentions are"

 

And neither are we.

And a chapter where I didn't hate the Wise Ones. Neat! :3

 

And Sammael's messenger was awesome. If not a touch melodramatic unless I missed something

is that possible??

If what's possible? Thi better not be a sleight against my intelligence? :(

Sorry, that'd be my paranoia worthy of Shadar Lagoth. Which, by the by, is where I am in LOC

LOC is one of the best

ToM ftw