Ok - time for the list. Turin I am not pleased you've done this because I hate making lists and it's late and I'd rather be playing scrabble or hidden worlds.

 

I think that:

 

1. Thrax(getting replaced) is mafia - because of stuff that happened early on in the game that I can't remember now. Also I keep seeing him posting and thinking he's back - but it's another Game. It's very confusing.

2. Len is Mafia - I think he's working with Hallia - and he's being the 'reasonable' sounding one.

3. Mynd is dead. and was Town

4. Dawn NotBob is Mafia - he pressed for my reveal when it wasn't necessary and flipped to Mynd without giving any reasons for doing so

5. Tina is Mafia - She's only been popping up to stir the pot and then she vanishes.

6. Turin is town. He's doing his usual crazy theories and piggybacking me a lot, but he's actively questioning and pressuring people.

7. Despo is town. I like his posts that are just words and not millions of quotes. He's also seeing a lot of things I'm seeing - although a part of me wonders if that's just to make sure I don't look at him.

8. Hallia is mafia. She's using revealing her claim - when it really wasn't necessary - as a way to prove she is Town. She's changed how many times she can do it. She keeps saying she'll provide a list and then doesn't. She said her Mafia reads were the same as Despo's - but he had me and Turin as Town.

9. Chae is Town. I'm saying this because I don't have a definitive suspicion feeling about her. She's not really registering for me.

10. Ithi is town.

11. Thane is town. I don't think he would have gone off if he were mafia. I think he's got a sense of honour that would mean he would have stuck it out if her were mafia. I don't think he would pretend to be cross and leave just to save himself and then come back. His funeral post was a bit weird though.

12. Tsuki is Town. I was a bit suss of him at first, but he's been quite sensible about stuff and has been pointing out weird stuff that I think is weird too.

13. Dice is town. Again - he wasn't worried about what other people might think of him when he was agreeing with me about the Mynd thing. I think Mafia would have stayed away from all of that, or possibly backed up and supported Mynd - because they would have known he was Town and it would mean they looked like good guys - I think I've strayed back onto Hallia there lol.

14. Charis/BFG is TownI don't think there's a point in actively cc-ing another role. It's only going to bite you in the bum if they turn out to be who they say they are. 

15. Pral is town. Because I don't read him as being suspicious mafia at this time. 

16. Salami is mafia. I'm doubting the Miller claim. He asked for full claims when they weren't necessary. He sheeped onto Chae - because he trusts her, but called out Turin and me for agreeing with each other.  

 

 

And that's it.

 

TBH - at this point in the game I'd list everyone as being Mafia - even Turin - because that's how my mind works, but some people are more Mafia than others.

I hereby get my own back on Turin and name him King of Lists.

 

So he can trawl back and see who has and hasn't done one yet.

LMAO, List monitor. *puts on sash* From memory so far...

 

Turin

Csarmi

Ithi

BFG

Despo

 

Pral's doesn't count cause it was copied from mine. It needs to be your own statement.

 

So everyone else has not done a reads list even though several people have been about and could have done theirs already. I think they waiting for day to see if they may have killed the possible LD.

2. Len is Mafia - I think he's working with Hallia - and he's being the 'reasonable' sounding one.

 

So your sole reason for thinking me mafia is because you think im working with Hallia in... what? Originally it was working with Mynd and Hallia during the gladiator thing to try and push to get you lynched or something like that, but now that Mynd is lynched and shown to be town you still think im linked with her? For what?

 

Now that the Mynd gladiator mess has been cleared up please explain to me why your still thinking this? Cause atm this is baseless.

Mynd's flip makes no difference.

 

You both popped up at the exact same moment and had a good natter about Hallia being a governator. I think you also thought that posting character or role claims was a good idea. One or the other I think.

 

You were also OMG Turin what have you DONE! when Mynd did the Gladiator. I thought that was a bit over the top.

 

Have you done a list yet?

 

Why you so concerned?

Len says 'why me?'

 

lmao.

Something I do want to go back to look at is who either voted without reason or changed their stance during the 1v1. Also if they have sound reasoning for doing so.

 

Also looking to get ALL the lists ASAP. earlier lists mean more time to utilize them.

Utilise.

*talking yank* LOL.

 

I will just say that it will make it more USEFUL.

Mynd's flip makes no difference.

 

You both popped up at the exact same moment and had a good natter about Hallia being a governator. I think you also thought that posting character or role claims was a good idea. One or the other I think.

 

You were also OMG Turin what have you DONE! when Mynd did the Gladiator. I thought that was a bit over the top.

 

Have you done a list yet?

 

Why you so concerned?

I said you posting your role would be a good idea, as Mynd already had claimed both and I wanted to lock you into something so you couldnt BS about it later. Since you were the focal point for the day I thought, and still do, it a good idea.

 

You also exaggerate what I did. Yes I thought Turin had used the Gladiator shot because many of his posts looked very suspicious with the timing of the shot, but I later was proven wrong and admitted as such, something you apparently forgot to atleast mention.

 

Recently? No, but I have done one.

 

And I dont want to be pushed by someone as influential as you for some BS reason. If you had a legit case I can defend against and prove wrong, fine ill accept that, thats the game. If you had nothing to back it up however than I was going to call you on it and show that you were pushing just to push, not that you had an actual reason to do so. Also dont try and bend this to look like im over defending or am over reacting to your push, because thats a serious scum move imo and if you do im going to FOS you for it and have to seriously reconsider my current read on you.

Threats of being FOSd and called Mafia @ Len?

 

OK

 

How's about I don't care. I'm really not worried what people think. I'll keep on doing my thing and if that means some people say that if I don't stop they'll call me Mafia then so be it.

 

Hallia flipped from think I was Town to saying I was Mafia because 'my tone was off' and know you threaten to do the same.

 

I'm so glad you're completely different.

Len, you do know why I am asking for new lists right? So if your previous one is different then you should try to make one in the LD format.

Threats of being FOSd and called Mafia @ Len?

 

OK

 

How's about I don't care. I'm really not worried what people think. I'll keep on doing my thing and if that means some people say that if I don't stop they'll call me Mafia then so be it.

 

Hallia flipped from think I was Town to saying I was Mafia because 'my tone was off' and know you threaten to do the same.

 

I'm so glad you're completely different.

Except my reason would be legitimate while Hallias was not. The tactic of bending someones words to mean something else or ignoring things altogether to get a different meaning is a scum tactic. Gladly you didnt, or atleast have yet, to do it and so my read on you stays as it was though the snark isnt going to help you much. I voted Mynd because I figured you would be more helpful in catching scum in the longrun than him though so heres hoping you get back to that.

 

Len, you do know why I am asking for new lists right? So if your previous one is different then you should try to make one in the LD format.

I understand and ill remake it later in that specific format.

Q though, as a LD role if I say something like "Chae is mafia" and im town, wont that be a null because I have no way of knowing if that is true or not until we lynch her? Or is it dif than that? Havnt played with an LD in a while.

Exactly. But if you are mafia and she is your teammate then you KNOW her alignment. It is for this reason it is best to get everyone to give a solid list ASAP. then thru POE and traditional mafia finding techniques the mafia have nowhere to hide. Therefore if you are town you want to make and send in your proper list ASAP to pressure the mafia into doing so also.

 

Those that refuse, are drawing suspicion to themselves. But who knows? there may not even be a LD in the game. Mafia probably have a better idea about that than town tho. Besides townies have nothing to fear. 

 

Cause they are town.

between work and State of Origin   GO THE BLUES!!!   i havent done one. Will try to get one done but it may not be til tomorrow night

The trail must have smelled warm, Watson thought. The bloodhound had plainly gone down this street. The sight was shocking to behold. "Toby has been down this way; you can tell by the trail of shedding," Holmes had declared. But both of them were unprepared for the depths of evil that their enemy had stooped to. Why kill a dog? Why engage in that cruelty? Watson knelt down, stroking Toby's head. The good and faithful bloodhound had served the cause well, and would rest in peace.

 

Dice, Toby the Dog, Town 2-shot Oracle, has been killed.

 

It is now Day 2. With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. DL is set for Sunday, June 22nd at 9PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140622T21&p0=422

 

No fair!! Still had an hour to deadline!

What role counters Oracle??

 

[v]Chae[/v]

Admitting in advance to simply stealing Ithi's Format - I is lazy Shadow.

 

1. Thrax(getting replaced) is Mafia - Tried way to hard to case me for "nit picking on a grammar issue".

2. Len is Mafia - Trying way to hard to put off making that list, trying to get down EXACTLY what can't be confirmed.

3. Mynd is dead. Dumb Townie

4. Dawn/NotBob is Town - Honestly, Null read. But if I had a bullet, I wouldn't shoot him.

5. Tina is Town - Technically, she is Tina. Null read, slightly suspicious, but I think she is level.

6. Turin is Town. List master, pot-stirrer, Ithi-lover... It's sickening, really. (although I love you too, Ithi!!)

7. Despo is Town. He never trusts me when he is Town.

8. Hallia is Mafia. Claiming sucked, and she put the decision in other people's hands. I am the nit-pick GOD!! - she said she gets to save her SHOTS after claiming to be a 1x.

9. Chae is Mafia. Her defense of Thane sucks, her friendliness with CS sucks, her disappearance when the Thunderdome started sucks...

10. Ithi is town. Harsh and acerbic... ahem, I mean British, so could give a flying squirrel.

11. Thane is Mafia. I think he is counting on logic like Ithi's to save his arse for a day or two more. "Funeral arrangements"... like scum would kill one of their own (tinfoil time - unless they can change his reveal O.o - then Scum!Tsuki would do it in a heartbeat!!)

12. Tsukibana is Town.

13. Dice is Town - Nit-picker in training, wasn't afraid to join me in trying to use grammar to nail the scum. Where's X to jump on HIS head? 

14. Charis/BFG is Town - I shot her last game, wouldn't shoot her right now, in this one. Can't really give a better reason. That, and I believe her CC.

15. Pral is Town. Meta-read - He is playing the same way he was when he put a bullet in Cory.

16. CSarmi is Town - that said, I am suspicious as hell of that Miller claim. Too many people feed into it with little questioning.

No fair!! Still had an hour to deadline!

 

Tsuki: night does not have to go all the way to DL. When all night actions have been submitted, the day can begin anytime. This is pretty much standard for any game.

I know :P - just taunting the Happy Fun ball.

VOTE: Hallia

 

 

Case made yesterday. too much discrepancy between her statements of thinking both town and then flopping on Ithi while still believing Mynd. Looks like she did know was two townies. stayed with the losing side and asked if should save him or not. The entire claim thing was weird also. Oh since it doesn't really matter about characters how about you give us yours now. And your list too please.

 

@Tsuki, I would actually think that it would be possible for mafia to have and oracle as well. That does make me a bit more suspect of Chae as she could have well been breadcrumbing oracle for herself when asking those questions about Thane. Now that there is evidence of a town oracle I would doubt there would be two of them. 

Dice 2.0 is replacing Thrax.

He is Undead!!