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Sherlock Holmes Role Madness Mafia Town wins

Basel Gill
Basel Gill
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If Rags was role blocked why not mention it (sinks Chrak)?

Why would Mafia RB Chrak over Lestrade (likely cop)?

Why were you pushing him all day yesterday if you thought him the likely cop? Ithi character  claimed on D1. 

 

Maybe they thought Mycroft would be the cop(or a vig) since he is Sherlock's brother there is symetry that way too.. 

 

 

You look to be stretching to put anyone not named Csarmi or Hallia in the spotlight. 

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    Damn. I answered a question.

     

    Might as well clarify the above quotes. If that's not a viewing telegraph from Rags, I dunno what is. Hence the vote.

     

    Seems like my theory sucked.

     

    And my Ithi read.

     

    Turin... I should have never moved off.

     

    Len lock scum. Look how he never adds anything. Just ISO and see what he did the last days.

     

    Strongly suspecting Tina.

     

    And I mighy have been wrong about Despo and/or Tsuki.

    I think you don't know what he meant and are again trying to use anything to take heat off yourself and Hallia. 

     

    When did Len and Tina both jump over Despo in your suspect list? Why? 

     

    You are still holding to your ridiculous "one of Ithi and Turin MUST be mafia" line. What is the actual reasoning for this stance? You want both of us gone. I say again, you gonna have to kill me. so keep up the good work. 

     

    vote Csarmi

     

     

    Willing to vote Hallia also. I think Despo would be worth considering also. But I want to see Csarmi flip first. 

     

     

    Krak, I saw you about, kindly answer who you targeted last night. 

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    NotBob spew. 

     

    Vote count:

    Mynd (7): Ithi, Turin, Tsuki, Chae, Pral, dice, Len
    Ithi (3): Mynd, Hallia, 鲍勃不是我的名字


    Not Voting (6): Thrax, Tina, Despo, Thane, BFG, Csarmi


    With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch. A deadline is now in effect.


    DL is set for Tues. June 17th at 9 PM EST.

    http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140617T21&p0=422

     

    My best guess...2 of the 6 here are scum.

     

    I joked with him about this but he was right about Thane and I can see Csarmi would make him right about two non voters. (in fairness I think at this point he was suspecting X more than Csarmi)

     

    I shook the Magic 8-ball...

     

    Vote Thrax/Dice 2.0

     

    Thoughts?

    This is his first post of D2. Is this a view hint? What does it say that he doesn't really follow up on it? Given Thane was the lynch of the day so he may have been quite happy to just let it go and come back to X/Dice D3. Well if he had lived. 

     

     

    For those who collect this sorta data...here you go...

     

    1. Thrax/Dice 2.0 is mafia
    2. Len is town
    3. Dawn/NotBob is town
    4. Mynd, Wiggins, Town 1-shot Gladiator, lynched D1
    5. Tina is town
    6. Turin is town
    7. Despo is town
    8. Hallia is town
    9. Chae is mafia
    10. Ithi is town
    11. Thane is mafia
    12. Tsuki is town
    13. Dice, Toby the Dog, Town 2-shot Oracle, killed N1
    14. Charis/BFG is town
    15. Pral is town
    16. Salami is town

     

    His three mafia reads are Thane, Chae and X/Dice. 1  right and put his initial vote down on Dice.

     

     

    NotBob, what did the 8-ball say again?

     

    You come off looking scummy for this.  Lazy and concerned all at the same time.

     

    NotBon, is it public who you are on JN?

     

    Have no idea...nor do I care.  How about a nice game of chess?

     

    Here NotBob calls out Csarmi for asking about the 8-ball. I have the feeling that this is where mafia thought NotBob was an investigator and chose to shoot him over Rags on N2.

     

    unvote vote Thane

     

    csarmi most likely scum  could vote him as well

    Adds Csarmi to the mafia reads list. NotBob might have done all the work for us. I need to ignore his style I think and look at where he is looking more I think.

     

     

    Vote count:

    Hally (2): Turin, Tsuki
    Tina (1): pral
    Thane (2): NotBob, Des
    Tsuki (4): csarmi, Hally, thane, Thrice
    Chrak (1): Tina

    Not voting (4): Ithi, BFG, Chrak, Len
    With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. DL is Mon. June 22nd at 9 PM EST.
    http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140623T21&p0=422

     

    is the deadline today or tomorrow?

     

    Quoted to show who is voting Tsuki.

     

     

    Notbob, what do you think of Tsuki?

     

    I went back and reviewed the vote count...looks like scum to you eh?

     

    I'd rather eliminate Thane first.  Care to join?

     

    interested to hear what Ithi's replacement has to say...replacements always change the dynamics...why I suspect Thrax/Dice2.0 were scum...any reads there?

     

    Here he tests Hallia on if she wants to switch to Thane, who she is currently voting with. I will need to go llok at the fina D2 VC. Was Hallia on Thane?

     

     

    So NotBob's initial mafia reads are:

    Thane (mafia symp)

    Chae (unknown)

    X/Dice (unknown)

    and then added Csarmi (lynched but saved by Hallia who looks to have been voting with Csarmi and Thane)

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    You.

    Interesting. 

     

    I guess that means you think I am town then. 

     

     

    Oooh. Cindy called Tsuki "Csarmi"  Maybe Csarmi really is voting himself again. I doubt it.

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    No worries Cindy. Remember pictures of the food. 

     

    Current thoughts on players:

     

    Carmi: obvious mafia is obvious. If you doubt, I'm not sure what to tell you.

    Hallia: mafia right along with Csarmi

     

    Despo: moving slightly into the questionable area. A few things that just sit not quite right. In addition, Csarmi had him as near lock scum, and now has moved others ahead of him for no real discernible reason. Granted this is conditional on Csarmi flipping mafia but I think that is a foregone conclusion.

    X/Dice: I was suspect of X early due to his defending and the way he "confirmed" Csarmi and then also the reaction to my vote on him as noted by Ithi. I am thinking that if there is a 3rd party he is it. Looking at NotBob's posts is making me reconsider him as mafia however. 

    Len: I am starting to change my view on Len. He looked bad early but some of the interactions he had with Thane don't look like mafia/mafia or even mafia/symp. Plus it looks more like he was genuinely miffed during the 1v1 and Hallia was using him to push her drive for town cred.

    Tina: Still not very much here to go on. Please give us some content Tina. The best I have for thinking she is town is that some I really think are mafia are gunning for her.

    Chae/Krak: Chae was very scummy for many reasons. Her Thane defense, letting Csarmi sheep her without questioning it. her shot at me on N1 after being firmly set on Len all D1.(unfortunately her mafia flip would make Len more likely too ) Krak seems to be making more townie posts but he has to. Still not very happy that his NAs have produced no know results although I do appreciate him trying to protect me last night. 

    Pral: very very very quiet. Definitely need more from him. I don't buy the angle Csarmi is trying to push. It feels more like a set up job especially coming from him. So by correlation I am leaning town here.

    Tsuki: (05 of his posts make me think he is town then he says something so wild that I wonder again. The last was about Rags not giving up his views. There might not have been anything to give. Say Ithi viewed Dice N1 and Rags viewed NotBob N2. All he does is announce he is the cop to no good purpose. Or even if one was someone else that came back as town. There are reasons not to reveal reads.

    BFG: Solid claim as VT to counter Thane. Wish she was giving more input also. Only my own level of deviousness has me thinking it possible that mafia would CC the VT claim and look to coast on it. That is very "special Hat" tho.  

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    Turin  if you are trying to get a lynch running on me consider 3 things.

     

    1 You are looking at something that is incomplete. You are not Bob and cant know his thinking.

     

    2  It is info he didn't push. a reason for that is he changed his mind.

     

    3 It is incorrect info as I am Town. I am not third party

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    i'm voting Csarmi. He is my lynch candidate for today. I see NO WAY he is town based on his entirety of game play. Just since he became the leading lynch candidate on D3 has made it clear to me. Not gonna repeat my reasons but I think it is solid.

     

    1. ) I don't know his thinking but reading it over it does raise a question. However we still do not know how Bob's role worked. If he was a role cop in essence like it says in the one wiki or if Basel made up the detective name and it means something entirely different. 

     

    2.) possible. or he just also thought Thane mafia and let it go. He didn't seem to be very obvious in his hinting. It could be nothing but it is a concern. You worry about me pulling the wool over your eyes, I worry about things mentioned by perceived investigators that are not being followed up on. Csarmi is quick to flag Rags voting Pral but he ignored NotBob voting you even tho he did question Bob about it  when it happened.

     

    3.) perhaps you are. Who you think are the remaining mafia?  

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