Let's cut to the chase: who is the villager I am misclearing?

 

Who's your list?

 

 

 

Let's cut to the chase: who is the villager I am misclearing?

 

Who's your list?

 

 

From the hip:

 

Dice

Clov

Turin

Tina

BFG

 

Shadar

Sooh

seph

Yates

Zander

 

Darthe

Ley

 

nulls not really in any particular order, still not really SUPER CONFIDENT, but hoping I can clear up the space if I reread seriously

 

My read on your probably contingent on Ley's flip but I have basically given up trying to read you accurately

Darthe has that infinite ReddBoiler trait where there are times I push hard at him and am 95% sure he is a wolf and he owns me by flipping villager

I think my only good BEAD on you is a wolf tell that you haven't really hit on yet ATM or maybe you have and I just need to pay more attention, but I'm smart enough to know what I don't do well in my old age

And FWIW if Clov is mafia and Ley is a villager I don't think Clov gets in the way of my push of him

 

and I think if Clov is mafia and Ley is mafia Clov probably takes the opportunity to lay some buswork

 

I'll quote something I said to BFG in the 9er game csarmi just ran as to Clov's villager reads (he was reading dice villager at the time for reasons I could not understand):

 

corycurren

04-15-2015

08:38 AM ET (US)

I think dice is like a wolf more than 50% of the time, which is as good as I can usually do on d1.

Clov's opinion on him has very little to do with Clov's alignment; I've seen him just randomly decide to clear wolves for ~little reason based on something that makes no sense. Sometimes he just pushes weird buttons. I'll never understand it.

 

 

 

I think this is a fun quirk of Clov's villager game that is probably a part of our NF/ST personality conflict and if Ley is a wolf I don't think it looks bad for Clov

Darthe has that infinite ReddBoiler trait where there are times I push hard at him and am 95% sure he is a wolf and he owns me by flipping villager

I think my only good BEAD on you is a wolf tell that you haven't really hit on yet ATM or maybe you have and I just need to pay more attention, but I'm smart enough to know what I don't do well in my old age

I can empathize with that.  Finding scum is hard.  Sometimes.  

 

Villagers are easier.  What did Ley do to fall so far?  I ask because I already have him low based on one post and PoE.

It's not about what he's done, it's about what he hasn't done

Does that make sense?

It's not about what he's done, it's about what he hasn't done

Does that make sense?

Kind of yeah.  Sometimes.  

 

You've got to have a really solid meta for that to work and Ley's often baffles me.

Posting this and going to bed, hopefully be able to catch up before work tomorrow

 

 

I don't think Turin-Darthe is not mafia-mafia.  Does anybody think they could be?

proofread your post 

 

Like a whole suite of posts from Turin, just quoting one that shoes he's paying attention.

 

 

Remember Town Darthe. Him with the reasons and the explaining and the communicating with other people in the Thread.

 

Now we have sullen and closed of Darthe. Who may or may not have reasons but doesn't see why anyone else needs to know them.

 

Because that could be used against him in a court of law. He's leaving as little as he can in the game. That gives me other thoughts.

 

Good grief just lynch him already. He's not even trying any more.

 

In the cliché game Darthe wasn't explaining his reads until he cased people so this isn't necessarily indicative of his mafia game.

 

 

Good morning. Can I go back to bed now?

 

 

 

ya it almost seems scummy...lol

Interesting. What makes you say that?

 

 

 

just thought that if he was town he'd want to stay and help us locate scum.

 

 

Yet you left immediately after?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Turin and Clov are both strong town reads

 

Dice and Tina are lighter green, Dice is from tone and what he's choosing to comment on, Tina for the 'easy' reads she's giving.

 

Zander is lightest green at the moment, becoming slightly wary that he's sounding very self-conscious.

 

Darthe is null, I don't agree with his read on Turin, but his stubbornness about Ithi being town over survivor may be town indicative, as I don't see any benefit to the stubbornness if mafia.

 

Leyrann is making me feel somewhat uneasy, his content so far has all been about survivor/Ithi, which is something that seems alignment neutral to discuss while avoiding mentioning Ithi/Turin push on Darthe winch h's been the biggest 'event' in the thread so far, and otherwise just responding with a joke.

You've got to have a really solid meta for that to work and Ley's often baffles me.

 

 

Imagine if I used my brain for something other remembering every single post anyone has ever made in any Mafia game ever

Zander, on 18 Apr 2015 - 3:23 PM, said:

seph, on 18 Apr 2015 - 09:35 AM, said:

Good morning. Can I go back to bed now?

 
 

Ithillian, on 18 Apr 2015 - 09:40 AM, said:

Zander, on 18 Apr 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

ya it almost seems scummy...lol

Interesting. What makes you say that?

 
 
just thought that if he was town he'd want to stay and help us locate scum.

 
Yet you left immediately after?

 

I answerd Turrin already i had company in rl.  brought coffees.  effective hangover remedy..lol

Move BFG to green green

 

This sort of development is exciting for me 

im just waiting till the hockey game is over and then going to bed.

Zander, on 18 Apr 2015 - 3:23 PM, said:

seph, on 18 Apr 2015 - 09:35 AM, said:

Good morning. Can I go back to bed now?

 

 

Ithillian, on 18 Apr 2015 - 09:40 AM, said:

Zander, on 18 Apr 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

ya it almost seems scummy...lol

Interesting. What makes you say that?

 

 

 

just thought that if he was town he'd want to stay and help us locate scum.

 

 

Yet you left immediately after?

 

I answerd Turrin already i had company in rl.  brought coffees.  effective hangover remedy..lol

 

No worries, I'm still 10 or so pages behind :(

 

I'll get there

Move BFG to green green

 

This sort of development is exciting for me 

 

You're still null though :p

no probs BFG!!

 

A slight knock on your case, Cory - Leyrann was NK'ed in Psycho and then took over for somebody who subbed out, so his post total on D1 was a bit lower than you suggested.  That doesn't do too much to your argument, but I thought it was a distinction worth pointing out. 

 

Just looked - that slot got shot N2, but yeah you are right, it is indeed lower than than reported (but still higher than his Mafia game, which he was also in for an additional game day)

 

Read his scum games and LMK, but I would not say he is "laid back" as Mafia - he still posts, and afaict is content driven and pays attention - he just doesn't have the need and transparency levels that keep him coming back

 

I guess the POG rhetoric would be that he is "deep in his wolf range"

 

It's going to be fun arguing this with you for awhile tho

 

Let's cut to the chase: who is the villager I am misclearing?

 

 

Well, I was going to say that I wasn't overly impressed with his effort as mafia based on the VD game, but then I got to the bottom of page 2 of his ISOs where he did massive walls of text.  His case on despot seems pretty well substantiated (though I'm not going to pretend to read the rest of the game for context), but most of his pushes seemed relatively empty.  His early pushing of Wombat, then moving to Arez for inactivity, comes to mind.

 

Bold - I'm going to assume you mean mafia here, since you can't really misclear town :P

Recent posts are looking good, but I don't have a full context for them yet

Lol night all :)

 

Move BFG to green green

 

This sort of development is exciting for me 

 

You're still null though :p

 

 

The FEAR is real 

Bold - I'm going to assume you mean mafia here, since you can't really misclear town :P

 

"Who is the person that I am saying is a villager who isn't actually a villager"

 

"Who is this game's SwAg Dynasty"

 

"What's a better show than Boston Legal"

 

you may replace my question with any of the above

 

Cool, so this isn't great for me to say but logically I can see the sense in resolving me early one way or another.  Glad to see an Ithi flip here despite thinking that she was trying to garner activity.  Turin trneds upwards for me based on Ithi actually being 3p but I can't get by Tina's abuse of the situation.

 

[v] Tina [/v] my best lead atm.

 

I appreciate you being reasonable in that regard.  Not sure it's the best thing to say if you're town, but I do remember you making a similar post in ABBA.  I'll have to check Arthur, too.

 

Talk to me about how you think Tina abused it though? ?

 

 

Turin and Clov are both strong town reads

Dice and Tina are lighter green, Dice is from tone and what he's choosing to comment on, Tina for the 'easy' reads she's giving.

Zander is lightest green at the moment, becoming slightly wary that he's sounding very self-conscious.

Darthe is null, I don't agree with his read on Turin, but his stubbornness about Ithi being town over survivor may be town indicative, as I don't see any benefit to the stubbornness if mafia.

Leyrann is making me feel somewhat uneasy, his content so far has all been about survivor/Ithi, which is something that seems alignment neutral to discuss while avoiding mentioning Ithi/Turin push on Darthe winch h's been the biggest 'event' in the thread so far, and otherwise just responding with a joke.

 

 

I don't have any major issues with most of this.  I've already addressed why I had Leyrann as probable town earlier, but I at least understand where that's coming from.  Your Tina point doesn't really jive with me, though.  I would think that "easy" reads would be a knock on somebody, rather than a good sign, unless I'm just completely misunderstanding what you're getting at.

 

You've got to have a really solid meta for that to work and Ley's often baffles me.

 

 

Imagine if I used my brain for something other remembering every single post anyone has ever made in any Mafia game ever

 

So then people who are purposefully archaic or don't follow any guidelines of how they think they should play confuse you.

 

That makes a lot of sense.

 

Bold - I'm going to assume you mean mafia here, since you can't really misclear town :P

 

"Who is the person that I am saying is a villager who isn't actually a villager"

 

"Who is this game's SwAg Dynasty"

 

"What's a better show than Boston Legal"

 

you may replace my question with any of the above

 

 

I... don't really hate anything about your townlist.  Other than me having Leyrann considerably higher than you did, we're pretty similar on where we're at right now.  If I HAD to lynch one of your townreads, I guess it would be Tina, who is in a pretty similar position for me.  

 

Only thing keeping me from feeling really good about her was that I felt her big reads list was too "cookie cutter" for me.  

 

 

You've got to have a really solid meta for that to work and Ley's often baffles me.

 

 

Imagine if I used my brain for something other remembering every single post anyone has ever made in any Mafia game ever

 

So then people who are purposefully archaic or don't follow any guidelines of how they think they should play confuse you.

 

That makes a lot of sense.

 

 

If #454 is any indication, I confuse him, and I'm the most technically sound player there is.  

 

 

Cool, so this isn't great for me to say but logically I can see the sense in resolving me early one way or another.  Glad to see an Ithi flip here despite thinking that she was trying to garner activity.  Turin trneds upwards for me based on Ithi actually being 3p but I can't get by Tina's abuse of the situation.

 

[v] Tina [/v] my best lead atm.

 

I appreciate you being reasonable in that regard.  Not sure it's the best thing to say if you're town, but I do remember you making a similar post in ABBA.  I'll have to check Arthur, too.

 

Talk to me about how you think Tina abused it though? ?

 

 

I can't recall her ever using Socratic reasoning.  She usually doesn't stand out to me in early game and, albeit this could be bias, but the below really didn't sit well with me even compared to the other pushes on me (excepting Zanders who I mostly forgot about til rereading it just now).  

 

Cory's read of Ley is probably affecting my read of Ley because of how townlike Cory looks atm.  

 

 

 

About Darthe - I absolutely don´t understand his play at all. Like Turin and Ithi says, he is not interested in helping town. Why doesn´t he answer questions? Why won´t he explain? Why does he say that Ithi misreps (without pointing out what she misreped) while calling her town? Especially strange since she has claimed third party. I could definitely vote Darthe as well.