Also, Taborline was Darthe's Middle Earth game; so this isn't her first. I remember skimming and seeing that statement that this is her first game. Not sure what experience she has other than that

I have read RTE in ISO just now. I see that the couple of things he has been singled out for so far was his comment that there might be a mafia in the high posters, which there of course is a chance there is. In a game this size if you pick 4 names there's a reasonably good chance that at least 1 out of the 4 is mafia. I am not sure this theory gives me any indication of his alignment. 

 

The other thing he was singled out for was defending Taborline. I kinda did the same thing, so I see where he's coming from. Only difference is that I didn't FOS everyone who voted for her, because I can see why they did that too. 

 

I can't really react a conclusion on RTE. I can see him going both ways. 

Also, Taborline was Darthe's Middle Earth game; so this isn't her first. I remember skimming and seeing that statement that this is her first game. Not sure what experience she has other than that

 

A bit curious that she got that wrong, but doubt she's playing the noob card here. 

Also, Taborline was Darthe's Middle Earth game; so this isn't her first. I remember skimming and seeing that statement that this is her first game. Not sure what experience she has other than that

She was, but she subbed out I think. 

 

I think she also explained her previous mafia experience in that game, and from what I remember it wasn't mafia in this form. I guess that might be why she said it was her first. I'd have to go back and look though to be sure, and I'm feeling lazy

 

Also, Taborline was Darthe's Middle Earth game; so this isn't her first. I remember skimming and seeing that statement that this is her first game. Not sure what experience she has other than that

 

A bit curious that she got that wrong, but doubt she's playing the noob card here. 

 

Nah, from someone else, not from her. She did sub out though and was replaced by White Knight, but that was... mid game?

I'm here for another hour or so before going to the doctor with my eye if anyone wants to ask me stuff. 

I have read RTE in ISO just now. I see that the couple of things he has been singled out for so far was his comment that there might be a mafia in the high posters, which there of course is a chance there is. In a game this size if you pick 4 names there's a reasonably good chance that at least 1 out of the 4 is mafia. I am not sure this theory gives me any indication of his alignment. 

 

The other thing he was singled out for was defending Taborline. I kinda did the same thing, so I see where he's coming from. Only difference is that I didn't FOS everyone who voted for her, because I can see why they did that too. 

 

I can't really react a conclusion on RTE. I can see him going both ways. 

 

The mafia in top posters comment was for the sake of getting conversation going. I do stand by it though. Doubt the whole mafia team is among the non-posters, athough wouldn't be surprised if two are this early on.

@Dice

 

You asked RTE to answer questions, you hadn't asked any. It's a minor discrepency in your post; as is forgetting Laine at the bottom. I even said they were minor at the time.

 

I'm not trying to tell a narrative? I'm saying it sounds like you are.

 

You literally say in your original post

 

"Really bad post. Was thinking of voting then realised she is new so decided to let it go esp as people all jumped on it"

 

and just said

 

"I dont care if she has votes. If I wanna vote her I will vote her. Thats it. What i want is an ANSWER from her. Is she or is she not a newbie? the answer decides how i read her."

 

Which is precisely why I have a problem. If Town!you wants to vote, you'll vote so why should other peoples voing even enter your head here?

 

If you didn't vote because you wanted her to answer whether or not she had experience then why add the bit about people already voting? The fact that you did means that you're aware of the fact that people voted her and are possibly(?) wary of joing the train.

 

You're working to justify a potential vote, which is something I've seen you do more as mafia than town.

 

 

 

first time you were concerned was when you didn't vote Cairos because Clov already was, important No. Indicative of a way of thinking, maybe.

 

 

 

You're also being closed now; you have town reads/leans, but reading through your ISO I have no idea who; if I had to guess I'd say Laine and Cairos.

 

 

 

No Vote is absolutely a bad idea. Currently we're at 10v3, assuming a lynch and NK every day that gives us 4 mislynches before losing. Numerically we still get 4 mislynches if we No lynch today, BUT we end on mylo instead of lylo and that's generally worse for town. It also means we start tomorrow in a similar position to today and people are saying that they're finding it hard to post without much info.

 

[v]Dice[/v]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good morning!

 

And welcome, Sooh! I hate balloons too, they're the spawn of the Devil.

 

Why did Jagen leave us? Normally I would wonder if it's not because they had a special role, and therefore Sooh has it too, otherwise why quit so quickly? If you're vanilla town, you could just ride it out, check in from time to time, but if you needed to be active then you might throw in the towel right away knowing it's not fair to whichever team you're on.

Really bad post. Was thinking of voting then realised she is new so decided to let it go esp as people all jumped on it

 

 

Good morning!

 

And welcome, Sooh! I hate balloons too, they're the spawn of the Devil.

 

Why did Jagen leave us? Normally I would wonder if it's not because they had a special role, and therefore Sooh has it too, otherwise why quit so quickly? If you're vanilla town, you could just ride it out, check in from time to time, but if you needed to be active then you might throw in the towel right away knowing it's not fair to whichever team you're on.

Sometimes being scum in your first game is intimidating

 

Like this. Laine to be clear are you insinuating Tab is scum or is this a general comment or is this an injoke? Im reading it as the first

 

I'm totes gonna make everything a huge deal. I'm going to overreact to everything, BFG is going to nitpick, Sooh is going to be helpful, and Clov is gonna be Clov. At some point in the game Razen and/or Dice will try to lynch me after Clov creates a case on me out of nothing and I judge him harshly.

 

Oh wait, Hallia's in this game? If Hallia gets too friendly, she's probably scum.

 

Right now her joke:serious ratio is good.

I can vote you now and beat the rush if you really want me too....

 

 

Hello Rhea! I'm Laine! I was AJ until Andrej started playing mafia and I've been booted from the spot. You can call me Alanna if you like, Laine is just a RL nickname because apparently Alanna is too many syllables.

 

A/B scenario was showing my thought process as to why I voted Taborline. I don't see how, as town, she would go straight to assuming Jagen's role that Sooh subbed in to would be a PR and not scum unless she was scum herself and knew that the Jagen/Sooh slot is already town. That combined with the role-fishing earns a vote from me.

OOC RL story my ex boss is named alanna but she says it as al ANN a. For nine months i was saying it never getting picked up on the fact I was saying it wrong. Then 3 days before she leaves she blasts me for it! go figure

 

I think Tambourline's blunder is a noob one, and one very indicative of her noobness at mafia and nothing else. I will be looking closely at people who take the opportunity to build a train on her based on it.

Defense of Tab noted Fos noted as stinky.

 

 

 

 

BFG how can it be either absurdly pro town or pro mafia? haha I feel like those are two extremes

Pro town because you try to draw attention away from the potential PR hunt, by focusing on the mafia side of it. Pro mafia because you're extending a conversation that could get 'dangerous'. Doubt you'd do something that risky as mafia though, so leaning town (bolstered from yesterday)

 

I guess that makes sense. But that's also not what bothers me. In a game where we're hunting for scum, why not mention scum and why say "special roles"? It's not necessarily the fishing that's bothering me, but her leaving out what should be the focus of a town member (finding scum).

 

Because I'm new to this game here and "Special Roles" is the term we use on my other forum as an all-encompassing term, that was all that was about.

 

You know how above I let her have some rope cause shes a noob? I think the noob card just got torn up. @Taborline have you played mafia on other sites before this?

 

 

 

 

 

Were you asking me to explain, BFG? The only reason I brought it up was that it seemed like a clue, something to take into account as we move forward. And there being more scum than special town roles, that could be even more of a hint.

Lol ok. Why did you draw attention to the other potential PR when Laine said about mafia goons?

 

When I said about not wanting to lynch someone who was potentially the good role? Just as another side of why it would be interesting to know that Sooh had something, it can be beneficial for town as well.

 

BFG is right about this. Unless you thought town!Sooh was going to be mislynched, there's no benefit to town to outing her role (be it vanilla OR cop)

 

I wasn't trying to out her as a cop, I was trying to out her as possible scum (but mentioning that we should be careful as she could be a special town).

 

Now backtracks

 

 

 

 

I want to hear answers to my Qs from RTE and Taborline please

 

 

 

BFG

 

I forgot to put Laine down the bottom. Feel free to sue me. As for Taborline I said what i mean I want to hear from her.

 

and if you are gonna type out my "narrative hows about you usae the correct words instead of your interpretation? I dont care if she has votes. If I wanna vote her I will vote her. Thats it. What i want is an ANSWER from her. Is she or is she not a newbie? the answer decides how i read her.

 

 

you said this is the second time i was concerned....where was the first?

 

and what am i gonna ask RTE? His FOS stinks and i noted that i think it stinks. Why would i ask anything?

 

 

 

 

im not gonna be here at DL thats like 1am my time or something. Will be here a couple more hours but right now Im thinking no lynch actually. I have a couple people I think are good bets for town but thats it. Im not getting why Lessa has ANY votes think i missed something

 

Sooh is right - you CANNOT incriminate yourself if you're town. That isn't to say you won't be misunderstood or mislynched, but the more you talk the more you force mafia to expose themselves as well.

Back in an hour or so

The mafia in top posters comment was for the sake of getting conversation going. I do stand by it though. Doubt the whole mafia team is among the non-posters, athough wouldn't be surprised if two are this early on.

 

Yeah, getting into it as mafia can be both difficult and easy, depending on the direction of the game.

 

We also have a few new/not frequent players here, so for them I would think it's even more difficult to get into the game as mafia. 

EBWOP - I see that Dice told RTE that he mixed up RTE and Laine in the bottom bit of his post, so that can be struck from my post above

I'm most suspicious of people who pop in with a post then don't follow up (Rhea) or people who do so and drop a vote without much behind it (WBK). Problem is harder to single out the latter on Day 1 with less for people to base their votes on. 

I'm most suspicious of people who pop in with a post then don't follow up (Rhea) or people who do so and drop a vote without much behind it (WBK). Problem is harder to single out the latter on Day 1 with less for people to base their votes on. 

I agree.

 

Sooh is right - you CANNOT incriminate yourself if you're town. That isn't to say you won't be misunderstood or mislynched, but the more you talk the more you force mafia to expose themselves as well.

BFG dropping wisdom. lol

 

As for looking at the top posters, I'm feeling particularly good with BFG and Clov right now, with BFG a little lower than Clov. The other top two are myself and Taborline. I'm still trying to make a decision on Taborline. I'm not sure how much leniency I'm supposed to be giving here. I'll decide once I'm caught up ITT

I've been burned giving people a noob pass in the past (looking at you Sooh!) but as it is her first real game and with how she has handled the slip up I feel it's not likely she's scum here

I've been burned giving people a noob pass in the past (looking at you Sooh!) but as it is her first real game and with how she has handled the slip up I feel it's not likely she's scum here

I haven't decided on her either way really. I want to see her giving more thoughts and observations, and then make my decision.

dammit i just lost everything!

 

 

BFG  I vote where and when i want. that vote is often controlled by my gut jumping at something that stands out to it. Here whats stood out more then anything is some people i think are town at this point.

 

i get lynched for being quiet on a regular basis. thing is im quiet TOWN as often as i am quiet MAFIA. It most often comes because nothing stood out for me to grab hold of.  Taborline stood out a little  but it didnt ping me like Laine did last game for eg. Then theres the fact that shes a noob apparently. Im not a complete bastard  i do try to give newbies a go.

 

first time you were concerned was when you didn't vote Cairos because Clov already was, important No. Indicative of a way of thinking, maybe.

vote clov  Bunyan told me to vote Cairos first and you messed it up!

 

 

hi folks!

 

 

this what ure talking about? its called a joke vote. You will notice I mentioned my Band warhorse? Well i was gonna vote Cairos cause Bunyan told me too initially.

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ou're also being closed now; you have town reads/leans, but reading through your ISO I have no idea who; if I had to guess I'd say Laine and Cairos.

 

Has anybody asked?  and my leans are Laine and you actually.

Dice, you think the back and forth BFG/Laine is distancing?

oh and BFG?? you want me to vote whereever I please? here

 

vote no lynch   I DONT see this as bad. Odds are that we mislynch a townie today. No lynch means 1 less townie dies we still have the info gathered today tomorrow 

 

with that im off to bed and wont be back for DL as told earlier

no Sooh I think their town. Laines tone bantering with both me and BFG was really good. relaxed and carefree

 

BFGs tone with laine has been much the same. Then she starts her Wots again   on me as usual lol but this time? I dont have to worry about them.  thats pure Town BFG

really gone now  night

no Sooh I think their town. Laines tone bantering with both me and BFG was really good. relaxed and carefree

 

BFGs tone with laine has been much the same. Then she starts her Wots again   on me as usual lol but this time? I dont have to worry about them.  thats pure Town BFG

Oh oki. I misunderstood you. Thanks for clearing that up!

Heh. Ballsy.

 

Now is that town dice or scum dice? Don't remember him voting no lynch recently...

Just answering these two from yesterday before I read further.

 

unvote  forgot to do it earlier

 

Taborline got an answer for me?

 

I have played before, but not like this. We don't allow subs, usually if someone who is normally very quiet is talking a lot, it's because they have an interest. So my first thought in someone leaving so soon would be that maybe they had a role which involved actually playing instead of just lingering on as vanilla town. Also, I've never been in so active a game.

 

Does anyone know how to fix not being able to quote on a laptop? I can do it on my phone but not my laptop.

 

@Taborline - what does "suss" mean?

 

Suspicious

 

Also, Taborline was Darthe's Middle Earth game; so this isn't her first. I remember skimming and seeing that statement that this is her first game. Not sure what experience she has other than that

 

A bit curious that she got that wrong, but doubt she's playing the noob card here. 

 

 

I didn't actively play that game, and ended up being subbed out for inactivity because it was too difficult and confusing, which is why I waited for a beginner's one.