Turin Turambar

LOCK CLEAR is a term used for someone you think is definitely town. Sooh is right that it is uncommon to be categorised as such before End of D1/N1 once some flips have happened. I looked at that Zander post and thought it would be hilariously on point for Z to be the wolf with 2 less experienced player and he is trolling us projecting on me. If that's the case his team is likely Cairos and Andy.

This is a weird vote. Not because it's on me, but there is mostly joking with other people and then the vote with little to back it up. I originally thought it was Donchadh as he had posted just before.

I actually don't hate this. He said he thought me a mafia and followed with a vote. I don't really think it's a "real" vote but good to get the game going.

If Z flips mafia, then 1 of Cairos and Andy will also. If Cairos flips mafia, then Z likely is also. 2 random lock clears on newbies, ( and pushing me ), not good.

Heres mine. This is a post I like less every time I see it. The fact he repeats it perks my ears up. Right now it is back burner thought, but I can see this as Zander trying cover Cairos with his town leader shtick. The fact I am suspicious of Cairos makes me wonder why Z is so sure he is town.

Ooh, peoples. How is everyone? Ready to expose the mafs in our midst? Can I ask a favor? If everyone could read through and quote 1 individual post that made you think that's really sus and then tell us why it bothered you. Please and thanks.

Maybe. Possibly. Probably. Likely. * checks notes* Confirmed.

Are we waiting for North America to wake up now? Where is everyone in the world anyway? Dice is from OZ, Z from Canada, Cairos from San Fran, Mills from NE USA?, Sooh from Norway?, I'm in UK, not sure of the rest. This is really a far flung group.

Post when you can. Don't stress about volume. Just try to be clear about your thoughts and reasoning. Where you at in Cali? I grew up in greater Los Angeles

I think it is 2 on Cairos, 2 on me, and 1 on Z. Ithi is sleeping (or was unless doggo just woke her) so we will probably get an official count soon.

Oh goodness! My fluffy dog just had a zooming burst. He's really lovely buthe gets so excited and he has a very loud penetrative bark for a medium sized dog. Such a crazy boy.

Without looking Turin Andy Sooh Zander Dice Heavy Cairos Mills Gudrean Donchadh We really need the new folk to come in and give some thoughts. Even if it is just how they are enjoying the game. Then we can talk with them.

Or do you think we should be looking elsewhere?

*swirling the WIFOM* and I'm breaking my own rules. Couldn't help it cause Princess Bride. Sooh, you voting anyone? Same questions regarding Mills and Cairos. Who and why?

Sus is sus. Fair enough, if you had to make a case to vote Mills or Cairos, which would you pick? Why are you suspicious of Andy? I have some meta things but I'm not ready to go there yet.

To be fair, I think that is his second account. The first was just Zander. Maybe he just changed his name, that has been known to happen, lol.

Heavy, are you voting Zander at present? Would you be willing to switch to either Cairos or Mills? If yes, which one and why?

This is more insightful posting from you. Being helpful to newbies is a way mafia can try to gain trust so it is Good not to clear based on that alone. You are quite confusing. Sometimes you sound quite sus, and sometimes very authentic and helpful. I don't know if it has been asked, but is this your first game? Have you researched mafia at all?

We can talk while we push. I'm not saying we need to hammer them now. I just feel that making people take a position will help us find the mafs. Zander is the TTT(towniest townie to town). At least on the outside. I do want to see more thoughts from him. So far it has been mostly braggadocio about being town. Hopefully after he recovers from wrestlemania or whatever it was last night he will be helpful Zander and not just Tom lite. Dice is giving thoughts and acting on them. Leaning town right now.

Good night Dice.

And ninja. Thanks for that Dice. I think that our best chances to find mafia at this time are competing trains on Mills and Cairos.

Scrooby, lololololol Sooh, you might just be town yet. I'm hopeful. Dice, I was really hoping to wake to more in depth thoughts from you. Z, I was hoping to get some thoughts from you. I guess wrasslin' knocked you out.

First bit, it was you suggesting that both Sooh and you were town together. You can't know that yet. Sooh hadn't posted much of anything at that point. So it looks like your are trying to "buddy up" to her. Then if she dies and flips town, you try to say "well she was town so I'm town too." Ruh roh, shaggy. A good Scrooby reference is always appreciated. Last point. Sometimes mafia will all push on one thing together. They might be in this game even. More likely they will not all be on the same lynch train unless it secures their victory. They will also rarely all push the same narrative. The reason is that links them together. It is more likely they will push someone they don't really think will get lynched, or be all on different trains. I definitely want to see your suspicions. It tells me how your thinking and helps me determine if I trust you or not. As a personal preference, I would prefer not to have the lite RP stuff as I find it an additional filter needed to sift through. I can deal with it if people want to do it, but it does make my solving more difficult. Some of your posts are coming off as a bit "I just can't win with you people ", it does cause me to wonder if you are: A. Just new and truly confused B. Playing confused for effect C. Just looking for jokes That last bit about becoming a target, even as a red herring is possibly the best thing you've posted to date. All you can do as town though is make your thoughts clearly known with whatever reasoning you have to support them. Then if you should die, people can look at your thoughts knowing you were being honest. You could be wrong but knowing intent is helpful.

That's too long. Ithi is falling asleep on the other sofa. I think we are going to sleep now. Dice, I know there isn't a ton of content yet but you think you could do a read and post where you are on people?

Dice, how much longer is that wrasslin' show? I'm trying to decide if I wanna stay up to talk to Z.