
Everything posted by Elder_Haman
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Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Probably. They wouldn’t be wrong.
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S3 is losing viewers says Samba
So far, most of the available metrics are positive. The OP's source about a 6% drop is based on an extremely limited data set. (Samba is an opt-in service that only tracks TV data - not laptop or mobile streams - and only for people subscribed.) As of today, it's Amazon's #3 show and is ranked #10 among all streaming shows. It still has an online engagement score of 25.11, which qualifies as high engagement. https://televisionstats.com/s/the-wheel-of-time#
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S3 is losing viewers says Samba
On your friend’s hearsay? Likely not.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
Exactly. And then when it is demonstrated that this risk is actually very low, you pretend that we are arguing about something else. But this isn’t productive or entertaining, so I’m going to stop engaging now. Enjoy the rest of your day.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
I’m not the one throwing a tantrum.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
Holy cow!! Move the goalposts much?!? Your original argument was that the whole Tanchico massacre scene was bad because it was stupid for the Black Ajah to kill so many people because they would attract too much attention. This, you said, made the scene unrealistic. Now, faced with the undeniable fact that things like this happen all the time in the real world, you shift to “well it isn’t impossible because there are examples in the book of something similar happening.” You’re right. It isn’t impossible. Maybe the writers will write that it happens. The point remains that the scene wasn’t unrealistic or badly written because of some hypothetical public uproar over the consequences.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
Bro, you didn't force me to do anything. You've got to be kidding me. No. Because they are poor nobodies in the middle of a failed state. The people that might be upset about it don't know anyone willing to stick their neck out to challenge the village strongman/zealot/warlord/coven of evil witches. Even if they do know someone brave enough to say something, that person will have no power to gather similarly minded people. So no one will say anything. The people who are upset suffer in silence or have their cries fall upon deaf ears. So there is no public outcry. There are no vigilantes. There is no mob. There are only the lonely tears of the isolated survivors. And if you think this very scenario doesn't play itself out on a near daily basis in certain places on this very planet, you are hopelessly naive.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
Are you seriously trying to claim that the phrase “nobody cares” is not commonly used idiomatically?
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
It is a mob. I had forgotten about the threats to burn her out. Mea culpa. My remaining points stand.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
By taking the phrase “nobody would care” literally as opposed to the common idiomatic use of that phrase which means that something would fail to arouse a public outcry.
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S3E2:A Question of Crimson - Discussion
Sure. Totally valid. I just see it as an understandable deviation that will service the ultimate objective of telling Egwene’s story on tv. But I get why that would rankle.
- How different is too different?
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S3E2:A Question of Crimson - Discussion
But see, she’ll want it for the right reasons. Not because of institutional inertia, but because she earned it.
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S3E2:A Question of Crimson - Discussion
I think this is one of those things that sort of needed to be 'speeded up' for show purposes. Yes, the Amyrlin was built up more in the books as was the whole culture of the Tower. But I think the writers decided that what's more important for show purposes is development of Eggy's character traits. So it was a way to show Eggy's bold, stubborn, smarts that was dramatic precisely because we know the Amyrlin is an authority. And the scene sort of gets to do double duty in showing how little authority Siuan really has right now.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
I see that you are going to deliberately interpret what I said in the most absurd possible way. Of course there are people who would care about missing loved ones. So? Is the Black Ajah not a military group? Since everyone at the wedding is dead, how would they know that 7 women were responsible for the massacre? Where are they getting their information? And why would they assume that a hastily formed mob would be able to succeed in defeating the unknown force that massacred the wedding? No they didn’t. This is a malicious misreading of the text. The village being distrustful and unwelcoming is not “rousing a mob”. This was my point, obviously. Brazen massacres often go unpunished in our world. There’s no reason they can’t in Tanchico.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
You obviously have no idea what is happening in places like Yemen, Syria, Somalia, Afghanistan and other failed states. Militants will wipe out entire villages. Massacre churches full of people. Is anyone stopping them? Where are the 'mobs' of people demanding justice in those cases?
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
Exactly. The idea that 30 people could be massacred at a wedding and nobody would care isn’t even far fetched in our real world.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
It might. Nor would it need to.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
It clearly was. Obviously Moggy will protect her lair. No it doesn’t. It assumes the black has a plan for handling people who come snooping.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
That was a joke… Neither do you. Maybe so. Or maybe that network would be dissuaded from sending the pigeon because an Aes Sedai (who can’t lie) told them it was being handled.
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Is Aes Sedai power creep a problem?
It’s a joke, son.
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S3E3:Seeds of Shadow
Are there any such authorities? Does Liandrin have any need to worry about them? I suspect we may get answers to these questions.
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Is Aes Sedai power creep a problem?
Perhaps a function of the show lifting more dialogue directly from the books this season.
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S3 is losing viewers says Samba
Also wanted to supply this link: TVstats shows Wheel of Time season 3 as the 9th most popular show (#3 on Prime / #3 sci-fi/fantasy series / #9 drama) and lists it with an online engagement score of 23.91 which qualifies as high engagement. The Wheel of Time (TV) - Stats, Ratings, Viewership
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S3 is losing viewers says Samba
An alternative perspective: Season 3 currently enjoys an 83% fresh audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. (94% with critics) [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_wheel_of_time/s03] It is also scoring very well on Metacritic, earning a 9.0 audience score. [https://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-wheel-of-time/season-3/] It is second only to Reacher on Amazon: https://www.techradar.com/streaming/amazon-prime-video/the-wheel-of-time-season-3-is-prime-videos-2-show-here-are-3-more-fantasy-series-with-over-85-percent-on-rotten-tomatoes IMDB currently rates it as the 14th most popular streaming show: https://m.imdb.com/chart/tvmeter/?ref_=tt_ov_pop So, I suspect overall viewership will increase as time goes on.