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    1 minute ago, ilovezam said:

    I don't follow that many shows, so I don't know if it's common, but I feel like for a show that has sorely disappointed so many fans worldwide and received largely middling reviews from just about everybody, some acknowledgement of that would do wonders. Not necessary an apology, mind you, but an acknowledgement that they're listening and might take some of the feedback into consideration.

     

    Instead we constantly get masturbatory celebratory remarks that makes it look like Rafe and team feel like they've knocked it out of the park, and that just rubs you the wrong way if you didn't love the season.

    According to Amazon's metrics, the show has been a huge success. There really isn't much incentive to do that kind of navel gazing.

    21 hours ago, ashi said:

    Indeed, though many kinds of truth can be great.

     

    One of the points, maybe. Personally, I find that statements like "the whole point of X" often can be a bit reductionistic. There are a lot of other points, too. (Edit: rather, any discrete set of points will be reductionistic, though some sets more than others, perhaps.)

     

     

    But maybe it [the deconstruction of heroic fantasy tropes] is a starting-point. Or maybe: 

     

    "The deconstruction was not the point. There are no points to the Wheel of Time. But it was a point."

    That's fair. 

    1 hour ago, Raal Gurniss said:

    So how will they improve? How can you really have optimism if they have no intention of change? 
     

    They believe they have the perfect blend right now.

    Because they will not have to deal with the onset of a pandemic halfway through shooting? Plenty of shows get better as they go on - GoT, Witcher, Last Kingdom - were all better in S2 than in S1. 

    1 minute ago, Jaysen Gore said:

    I would also add that iirc, even if it wasn't completely shut down, that production / filming was still subject to Covid Protocols, which probably prevented crowd scenes from having as many people as they should have

    100%

    There's absolutely a reason that Tarwin's Gap was fought by archers standing 6' apart from one another. In fact, I read that there are scenes where the actors were all filmed in different locations.

     

    When I start thinking about the shooting from a practical standpoint - it's astounding that they were able to get it off the ground at all.

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    5 hours ago, notpropaganda73 said:

    I don't really disagree with much here in all honesty, as I feel S1 was full of missed opportunities. I think where my optimism lies is that I think there is a love and understanding of the books there in the show, it's execution that is letting it down. 

    This is where I'm at with the show.

    Just a couple of little tweaks here and there would have made for a much better show. I'm hoping that S2 manages to elevate in a similar fashion to how the Witcher's S2 is much stronger than its S1.

    19 hours ago, Lethira the second said:

    Episodes 1-6 were already shot before covid, so that doesn't really excuse the earlier episodes.

     

    This isn't entirely true. There were two COVID pauses. And they had to do reshoots on the earlier episodes. So COVID restrictions did play into shooting for all of the episodes. Not to mention that post-production work on the first 6 episodes was certainly not far along before the pandemic hit. The entire season was impacted - and with respect to digital effects and so forth, the people involved were adapting to the pandemic on the fly.

     

     

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    40 minutes ago, Truthteller said:


    I’ve been trying to avoid getting drawn into this, but those poll results are a damning indictment.  This is a primed audience of people who desperately want to love the series.  That more than 50 percent of the people most inclined to like the series actively dislike it is incredible.  

    Not really. Any page-to-screen adaptation is going to cause division among the most rabid fans of the source material. I would expect the reaction of hard core book fans to track (roughly) as an inverted bell curve with strong reactions at the edges. Which the data seems to bear out.

    I have removed several comments surrounding the idea that this site somehow has an obligation to criticize the show. I have done this for 2 reasons:

    1. It is off topic.
    2. It is wrong.

    These forums are not designed to be an echo chamber. 

     

    1 minute ago, Yojimbo said:

    The genius of theMCU to me is that the characters feel true to who they were in the comics

    We are veering off topic, so we should probably leave this here - but it's hit or miss. Some characters they really nailed, and some they really reimagined. But the MCU has done a fantastic job of making its characters stay true to themselves.

    On 12/27/2021 at 8:20 PM, Yojimbo said:

    But don't forget, Lan is such a terrible horseman that he may have just fallen off his horse (several times), or decided to ride through a few thorn bushes.   I mean, he's really bad at riding apparently.   

    I find this argument disingenuous. No one ever said Lan was a bad horseman. Someone told a story about one time Lan had trouble with a horse. Have you never had friends who won't let you forget that one moment you made an ass of yourself?

     

    Of all the things to legitimately complain about, this one is not it. 

    4 hours ago, EchoSnowman said:

    The MCU is wildy successful in the theaters because they stuck to a semblance of the saga

    Comic books are not known for their fidelity to a single narrative. The story the MCU is telling just picks and chooses from many different stories that have been told about its characters over the last 70 years. 

     

    You simply can't compare the MCU to WoT. It's apples to oranges.

    2 minutes ago, TheDreadReader said:

    As for The Witcher.  It is a good adaptation of a mixed set of sources.  Season 1 got a lot of stick for being confusing to those not familiar with the material.  Season 2 made some improvements. 

    Agreed. Season 1 of WoT - thus far - compares favorably to Season 1 of the Witcher. Witcher S1 had some janky CGI, a confusing narrative, and some uneven acting. I'd say WoT has also had some CGI problems. WoT's biggest problem so far has been pacing/editing. I'm really hoping the success of S1 will result in slightly lengthier episodes in S2. Going from episodes that are just under 1 hour to episodes that are slightly longer than 1 hour would really help with the pacing.

    15 hours ago, Ryrin said:

    What else would she say? I get that she didn’t like the sneaky middle of the night 30 minute show but why would she publicly torpedo an Amazon series?

    She doesn’t have to say anything at all. Or she could give faint praise or vaguely worded statements of support. 
     

    Instead, she has given effusive praise. But I am to cynically conclude that she’s being dishonest for the money?