ArrylT

13 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

i watched it again, and this time i was ready for the changes and more able to look at other details. the characters interactions, how they put some worldbuilding in that. Needless to say, I'm liking it much better than the first time.

which perhaps is the best hallmark of a great fantasy saga: it gets better with subsequent rereads. A lot of books don't. Once you know the mystery, it's over, no point reading that again. a good fantasy, once you know the big story, you can focus on details.

yes, it's not perfect, but nothing is. I'm gradually moving into "love it" territory

That is basically how I feel about the show so far.    It becomes more enjoyable with more watches.    There are, imo, some really subtle but great things we can miss with just 1 watch - especially if you're watching with others or have distractions.   

I sort of screwed up with the spoiler formatting sorry.   I am going to watch a few Content Creater breakdowns soon to see what else I've missed even though I've watched it several times now. 

19 hours ago, ForsakenPotato said:

I think in the books the characters have a few close calls with it while escaping but what's really making them run is the trollocs. I get why they made the change because it's confusing in the span of one episode to say "the trollocs won't go in the city" and then 10 minutes later they are in the city...but I feel like as a result they had to make mashadar move really fast and cover the entire city while always leaving a tiny path for the protagonists, which comes off as a bit cheesy ("the floor is lava" vibes) rather than the ominous creepiness from the books.

Any chance you are a Community fan? ?

On 11/19/2021 at 2:29 PM, DaddyFinn said:

PC, laptop, mobile app, maybe console. You need a "Firestick" controller/device to access the origins on TV

It doesnt work on console unfortunately (or at least none of mine ?)

Now enjoying my third run through of Episode 1.  Love finding things I overlooked the first time I watched the episode.  

Have convinced 4-5 people to give WOT a look, and as mentioned my SO who was skeptical before episode 1 is now looking forward to watching the rest of the season after 2 episodes.  

Anyways I still want to go into more depth about what I didn't enjoy but the more I watch the 1st episode the less negative I feel about it so slowly moving from something like 60/40 to like 80/20 on my feelings . 

On 11/14/2021 at 9:34 PM, JaimAybara said:

Does anyone know how long these “shorts”, will be? 

Most of them seem to be 4-6 minutes in length.

The Bonus content unfortunately doesnt work well on a PS3/PS4 / Game console platform.  But it does work very well on other platforms.   I just finished watching all the associated content for Episode 1.   Hard to express how I feel other than ? - stuff like this really makes me as a fan feel loved by the show.  ?

And it also showed more foreshadowing of a kind.  Take a comment by Rafe in one of the Behind the Scene videos.

All in all I am very appreciative of the bonus content.   I hope one day we'll get extended edition episodes, cast commentaries, and so forth.  But so far this has been so enjoyable.   

And admittedly it makes me even more likely to watch the episodes over and over time and time again - much like a wheel? ??.   Between easter eggs, foreshadowing, and being able to correlate to the behind the scenes while the episode is playing .... just wow.  

18 hours ago, BeTheBud said:

I did not hate it, but I did not love it either. What a boring take, I know. This will be very long, but if there's one thing the Wheel of Time taught me (from a writing perspective), it's the value of being thorough.

 

Let's start with a positive.

 

 

Casting & Characterization

 

I think the casting and characterization is overall a big win, with a few reservations. Nynaeve is almost certainly my favorite thus far. She's a raging, glorious protector. The only moment when I questioned her portrayal was when she refused to heal Moiraine, which I don't think Nynaeve would ever do. This could have been a bluff though, I'm not sure.

 

Perrin, Tam, Padan Fain, and Eamon Valda are the runners up. Perrin feels like such a strong presence and has quite good chemistry with Rand and Mat. Tam is basically exactly how I pictured him. One sour note is that I do think was that he lost against a single Trolloc. I know he was rusty, but he didn't get that heron mark for no reason. Padan Fain's smile was already enough. Eamon Valda is vile and will be delight to despise.

 

Lan is great. He's not perfect for me (why did he care about the bath temperature), but I think he plays the stoic well without becoming a robot. He's quite a badass as he should be. I also loved his interaction with Nynaeve when she tried to kill him. Mat is also great with a couple big reservations. I think Rand has the potential to be fantastic, but narrative-wise is subdued thus far (rightly so). I love his innocence though. Egwene is solid, but not great. She just isn't given much to do so far, which is basically the same as the book.

 

I think I'm in the minority on this one, but two characters I'm not a big fan of thus far are Moiraine and Thom. Regarding Moiraine, she's certainly not awful, but she feels a too distant. I realize she puts on those kinds of airs as an Aes Sedai, but even in the book, I feel she is a little more warm than how she has been portrayed so far. It is hard to fully evaluate her though, since she's kind of been out of commission for one and half episodes. I hope they open her up more in later episodes.

 

As for Thom, I get the grungy country/rock star style they are going for, but I prefer the more regal, theatrical Thom of the books. This is just a stylistic preference, but I feel it rather strongly. As for how Thom behaves, it seems a running theme that the show turns what appear to be light hearted characters into darker, more troubled versions of themselves. Of course, we find later in the books that Thom is a much more troubled character than his initial introduction, but only once we get to sit with him for a time. That being said, I am higher on him than Moiraine, particularly because of the scene between him and Mat when burying the Aiel.

 

With regard to my reservations with Mat, I don't like the fact they made him a thief, at all. To me, Mat simply is not a person who would do that, especially to someone he clearly liked. I know he technically did it so he could buy lanterns for his sisters, but even so I feel this is a very un-Mat thing to do. If anything, he should have just charmed his way into getting the lanterns from the seller for free. Or perhaps humorously fail at such, but the seller takes pity on his sisters, leaving Mat without one.

 

Then there's the change they made to his family. His mom is a drunk and his dad is a cheater. I guess we should call him Unabell Cauthon now. Very bad jokes aside, it's another change to make the character a bit more broken. I don't feel it was necessary, and it will rob us of the very heartwarming scene where Tam and Abell travel all the way to the White Tower to find their children. So we have two not great changes, but fortunately, they don't ruin Mat himself as a character for me. Therefore outside of those changes, I still feel that his character is done quite well (if a bit less disarmingly goofy than what I'm used too) once they leave the Two Rivers.

 

While we're on the subject of character changes, Perrin has a wife. Then he doesn't, 20 minutes later. As I've seen many point out, it's a shortcut for explaining the way Perrin is later in the story, but for me, that's just it. It's a shortcut. They weren't willing to put in the work, so they took the short and easy path. It felt lazy. It's not the end of the world, but it was a low point for me. Similar to Mat, I still love Perrin himself though. I think the way his character has been portrayed through these events is very much how Perrin would react. This is why, even though I really dislike the change, I can still say I love Perrin's character within the show.

 

 

Story, Dialogue & Pacing

 

Ok, this one is significantly more mixed. I feel like the dialogue is sometimes pretty good, but most of the time it just doesn't hook me at all. Much of the dialogue doesn't feel very much like the books. Moiraine did manage to capture my attention during the description of the fall of Manetheren. I also enjoyed Dana's speech, when she revealed herself as a darkfriend. That felt VERY Wheel of Time.

 

In general the third episode was the strongest for me. The first episode was an absolute mess if I'm being honest. It felt like I was constantly being told, look at this, wait no look at this, no forget that, this is what's really happening! Then suddenly the Trollocs are attacking and the episode is over. The second was a good amount better, but still felt quite rushed. I was hoping to linger in Shadar Logoth a bit longer. I never really felt creeped out by the place. The third was the first episode where I felt they really took their time, which is why I enjoyed it the most.

 

Here are some random tidbits that stuck in my mind. I love the intro sequence. This is the part of the show that feels the most like the Wheel of Time for me. I loved the nightmare sequence Rand had. Though the context of Perrin's nightmare grated for me (since I didn't like the Laila inclusion), I thought it was quite effective terrifying nonetheless. The Ba'alzamon teases were cool in concept, but I won't lie, the CG just totally took me out of it on those. The gentling of a random dude by the red Aja was pretty lame. It seemed like screen time that could have been used for something a lot more critical. Loved Moiraine's epic bring down the house moment at the end of episode 1. I felt like the song on horseback was forced, but lead to a really good scene. The wolves don't feel intimidating at all, they look like they'd be nice as pets. I know fantasy wolves are so, so hard to do in live-action, but it still feels like another loss for me. I have no idea how they are going to make the talking not feel silly (if they have talking). The scene where Nynaeve took out a Trolloc was great, if a bit unlikely, and sadly more suspenseful than the entire Shadar Logoth sequence.

 

 

Art Design, Effects & Locations

 

This is another mixed bag for me. Some of the costumes are excellent. I loved most of the Two Rivers' folks get-ups. I didn't like the White Cloaks when they were first revealed, but they are growing on me. They definitely feel more cult-like, which adds to their maniacal side. Still, I would really like to see some shining armor at some point. The Aes Sedai have fairly good design in their costumes, but I despise the color coding. I get the reason, but I just hate it. I would also like to see more dresses. I know it's not practical, but I just am a sucker for dress fashion, love it to death. I also think Moiraine's shoulder things look goofy and rubbery, but it's a minor complaint.

 

The Trolloc's overall design is pretty cool in concept. I like that there is a variety, and that some even are on all fours. In practice, some of them are hits and some are misses. The CG on them does look dated to me, and the practical acting can be a bit weak in some places, in particular when they're stuck on the river bank, after the ferry departs. I wish there were a couple more beaked ones featured though, those where always my favorite in the book. Overall, they are still quite menacing, so I'll take it.

 

The channeling effects range from kind of poor to decent for me. I think the fireballs were the weakest, while I liked the lightning strike a good amount. The stone heaving looked alright, but the coolness factor of that moment made up for the CG rocks. The whirlpool also looked a little wonky, but water is notoriously hard in CG. I was pretty bummed that they didn't have Tam shudder after being healed, a minor change, but I always thought that was a cool (pun intended) layer to healing magic. I definitely like the idea of the weaves themselves being visible to the audience, but I feel like there is a LOT of potential room to grow in exploring more intricate weaves in the future. I hope they capitalize on this.

 

As for sets, Shadar Logoth looked great. Like I said earlier, I was fairly disappointed by the sequence, but not because of the city itself. I liked the claustrophobic design of the streets, as well as the grand scale when Rand and Egwene went into the tower. Mashadar was different, perhaps not as menacing as I'd hoped, but I thought it was still pretty cool. I LOVED a lot of the mountain and valley shots. Especially the one foreshadowing the Breaking. The areas they are shooting in were very well chosen. The Two Rivers town (Emond's Field) looked great, if a little too advanced. I missed the thatched roofs (poor Cenn Buie) of the non-inn buildings, but the inn itself felt spot on, and the general homey feeling was good.

 

 

Other Technical Stuff

 

While not always amazing, some of the cinematography is excellent. The wide shots are often glorious. The action shots aren't quite as good. Some of the transitions were a bit bold, not sure how I feel on them (such as the blood into the muddy pool fading to the tree line).

 

I am very glad the show isn't constantly hidden in darkness, which is what many shows/movies do to save budget. However, this is a double edged sword as it does make the show look a bit cheap, which is crazy to me given the show's budget. I suspect much of that may have been put towards the Blight, the Ways, and Tarwin's Gap, so I will reserve judgement. I also realize, that the startup costs of a first season are often more than subsequent ones, and they'll probably be able to dedicate money more effectively in later seasons.

 

The score is good. It is definitely not on the level of Lord of the Rings or Star Wars, but it's immersive. I always say, if you can't have a truly great score that sticks out, then at least don't make it distracting! I like the intro theme quite a lot, and the two songs we've gotten are both lovely.

 

 

What's Missing

 

This is what really hurt the show so far for me. I respect those that feel differently, but for me, the thing that is missing to me is a general Wheel of Time feel. It's intangible and very difficult to get across in words, as the Wheel of Time feel for me is something that encompasses a huge range of aspects from the books. The humor, the subtlety of the dialogue, the cultural expressions and fashion, the meticulous design of scene settings, the occasional jab of horror, and a lot more. Many of these things feel under-represented or absent thus far.

 

Here is an example that I think will get across what I'm on about. You hear Mat saying "shite" and Egwene calling Rand a "stubborn bastard". These phrases take the place of book Mat's preferred "blood and bloody ashes!" and book Egwene's preferred "wool-head". This may seem like a very small change, because it is, but when you aggregate a lot of these minor differences, the sum total starts to feel significantly different from the original.

 

Now, I fully recognize that some people want the TV series to feel significantly different from the books. I am not one of those people. I don't mind a decent number of differences. I am not unreasonable. I do not expect everything to be book accurate. Cut out Baerlon? That's a shame, but I can live with it. However, small changes like the one I just described are one's that feel completely unnecessary, and rob the world of it's own unique flavor that will set it apart from the myriad of other fantasy series.

 

This is by no means the final word on this though. As I stated earlier, the third episode was where things are starting to look up for me. Ironically, almost all of that episode wasn't from the books, but the feel was definitely getting closer to what I was hoping for. There was a bit more humor that felt right. The classic unexpected darkfriend when Dana had her turn as I discussed earlier. Things like this give me hope. Now that the shock of the beginning is over, perhaps the series will grow into what I hope it can be.

 

Still, "Hope is like a piece of string when you're drowning. It just isn't enough to get you out by itself." So I will remain vigilant as well. If the show never truly delivers for me, then I will always have the books. That was enough before there ever was a TV show, and it will always be enough.

 

 

If you read all that I commend you and thank you for your time. Please have a nice day. ?

I am of the understanding that the showrunner & crew of most shows pay attention to serious feedback from fans of the show.   I am pretty sure that WOT will be no exception (and it was hinted at this at the premiere by the way some of them talked to the content creators).   I hope that they read this post.   This is exactly the kind of honest constructive critques that are vital to help shows improve.   I dont have to agree or like everything you mentioned but I do feel you did an amazing job expressing your thoughts and thanks for taking the time to do such a detailed analysis of what you thought.

4 hours ago, DaddyFinn said:

I think it's at least partly due to the fact the group travels from Two Rivers to Shadar Logoth and Breen's Spring in just a couple of episodes. I'm not sure on the scale of the map but shouldn't that take weeks of traveling even on horseback? We also don't see any other major towns/cities so feels a bit empty. I'm sure it will get better in the next few episodes.

Sorry in advance for the rambling 

The first time I watched GOT I could not get past episode 3.  So for me WOT has already been better than GOT because I know I will be able to keep watching and love the book being portrayed on TV.

Now back to GOT for a moment 

But imho GOT, especially in the later seasons, was awful for this.  Characters in 1 location were suddenly in new locations in the next episode with little to no acknowledgement of how vast and far apart locations in Westeros were.

Even knowing that 1 season of GOT equalled 1 year of GOT time it was still really difficult for me to see these journeys made so effortlessly at times especially considering the opening sequence shows how vast the GOT world was.

In the end I had to remember that travel is so dull  that even acknowledging the travel on TV can be portrayed poorly. 

I am so thrilled to see the tools Amazon added like the timeline, the animated backstory shorts and map of the journey.  For me at least,  the WOT has taken extra steps, not even mentioning the great foreshadowing and Easter eggs, to do their best to acknowledge the journeys involved.

I  am starting to feel that every revisit of an episode,  much like with the books, is going to be rewarding. 

I also recommend reading the Wheel of Time Companion & WOT fan wiki.

As far as I can see none of the Wisdoms there apart from Daise Congar were listed as being married.  

Not to mention:

"The position of Wisdom is one of great responsibility and authority, both actual and implied.[1] Wisdoms are generally considered the equal to a village Mayor, and in some places his superior.[1] Unlike mayors, Wisdoms are generally chosen for life and it is exceptionally rare for a Wisdom to be removed from her office before her death.[1] All Wisdoms claim that they can " Listen to the Wind" but only those who are also wilders actually have the ability"

Basically by making the village their family they are making a personal sacrifice - so it is not that they are cutting themselves off from village life or being a hermit - rather they are opening themselves to everyone and being a mother to everyone not just their own children / personal family is how I interpret it.

Ergo this was a potential lifelong commitment where Egwene would be putting the needs of Emonds Field ahead of her own personal needs & those of Rand.

This reviewer really liked the look of the Trollocs (4:50).  ?

8 hours ago, ForsakenPotato said:

 Confused why Moiraine's wound from the trolloc affects her so much slower than it does Tam. Seems like a similar sized injury with similar placement.

 

Benefit of her bond with her warder.

12 hours ago, Beidomon said:

Can anyone explain the cut off hands thing? And Valda is an excellent creep but kind of a shit Questioner. He didn’t think to just ask “are you Aes Sedai”?

 

My understanding of Questioners (and inquisitors in general) is that they do not ask questions they do not know the answers too.    Since her ring was not shown (and most Aes Sedai would be too proud to remove it) and she had answered previous questions by the Captain earlier - I doubt he had any reason to even think it.  And Moiraine did mention they tended to travel in pairs (which I think is supported by the books also) and Egwene was too young (and also had no ring).   Basically his own assumptions about the evidence in front of him did not allow him to ask a question that would make him look like a fool if she had said no in some way. 

22 hours ago, themann1086 said:

I actually liked the pacing of episode 2 better than episode 1. Seem to be in the minority in that which is fine! Little things I missed from my first viewing:

• The shadow that moves to lure Mat to the dagger. Hi Mordeth!
• Mashadar. Couldn't see it really in the theater (we were the first row, terrible angle) but it definitely looked a lot better on the TV screen

I liked the pacing of Episode 2 better.

Nor was I.  I know some where saying "30 seconds of Shadar Logoth" but it was plenty more than that haha.   

In the end at the end of the episode all the charactors were separated as they should be in the groupings as they were in the book and the key points were touched upon.   

I think my only quibble with the episode was when the wolves interacted with Perrin - but I'll have to re-read the 1st book and see when the first instance of wolves interacting (in any capacity) with Perrin occurs.  I do recall that wolves & Trollocs hate each other - so either the # of Trollocs was too many for the Wolves? Or the Trollocs got pushed by the Fade despite the fact that wolves had been in the area recently.

12 hours ago, ArrylT said:

In the long run Episode 1 will make no difference to me on whether I am going to watch the series or not - I am.  Basically you can say I loved the episode, liked it & disliked it all at once.  I will go into more detail later but here are some brief thoughts.

 

Love:

 

Loved finally seeing WOT on screen

Loved seeing the characters start their arcs & develop.    The scene between Rand & Egwene where Rand just "knew" she was going to become a Wisdom as an example.

Loved the fight at the farm.

Loved the presence of Moiraine.   

 

Like:

 

Liked the action.    

Liked the parts where they could stay true to the books as close as possible.  

Liked the look of the Trollocs

Liked how well Moiraine & Lan worked togetheri n the battle.

Liked the chemistry between most main characters.

 

Dislike:

 

No mention of the Flame & the Void (that I noticed).  

Emonds Field location bugged me.

Editing felt too rushed. 

Lan wanting warmer water.  

The way they left TR differed from the book

No nice mini arc of townspeople angry at Moiraine only to have the mayor shame them followed by Moiraine epic speech about Manetheren.

 

Still Processing

 

Perrin / Laila

 

I honestly think that the pilot opening episode could have been 75 min.   I totally get & wont be bothered that it was 60min.   Just that a slightly longer episode run time would hopefully have allowed for less of a rushed feel.  

 

I wont give a arbitrary grade to the episode.   I'll simply say it was a pass.  It got us off on the journey.   I have every confidence the episodes will improve.   I have no doubt that I will continue to enjoy WOT.  But I still wish the 1st episode, considering the length of time - could have been better.   A little worried that some (say maybe 20-25% of non book readers) people will start off the series on a negative and might not give it a chance to warm up.   

 

Get to watch it again tonight with my SO.  ??

 

 

 

 

 

Ok so my SO who is a big fan of GOT (the tv series - hasnt read the books) was skeptical about watching Wheel of Time with me - so she only committed to watching 1 episode - although I sort of got her to agree to glimpse the beginning of the 2nd episode.  

Good news.    After the 1st episode she was interested enough to keep watching, and after the 2nd episode seems hooked enough to keep watching.    And I know if she likes it enough she'll convince her sister to watch it also.  I've also got assurances from my brother (which likely means his wife will watch also) that he'll give it a go (he wasnt too impressed with the early marketing).   None of them have read the books - to my knowledge - although my SOs sister does read a lot of fantasy so it is possible.  Will be interesting to see how they take to it.   But at least my SO is in for all of S1. ?

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So now that I have watched it 2x - and I do not know about others - but the 2nd time, after the "shock" of changes wears off makes it more enjoyable - especially as I can see details I originally may have missed or focus on the interaction between the characters better.

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Why is Emond's Field suddenly in the mountains? Manetheren was a mountain kingdom, yes, but it covered a much greater area than just the Two Rivers. Rand and Tam live in the Sand Hills, which are the foothills to the Mountains of Mist--and they are noted as living far away from most people. This is just weird.

I felt the same way.     In the end I am fine with it but at first viewing it bugged me since we know the map and general layout of the Two Rivers pretty darn good in the books.    I would have liked the terrain to have been better showcased to represent that - but cannot have everything.   With a subsequent viewing it was less of an issue for me, and since I know I'll be watching this again doubt it will cause me much - but still any & all unexpected changes are going to be jarring.

Moving on   I am more comfortable with the Perrin/Leila backstory - especially after seeing her position and where her weapon was. and + a certain occurrence in Episode 2 that helps confirm his instincts.   Maybe we will never learn if she truly was a DarkFriend but currently that is my suspicion as well

Don't think I will ever get tired of seeign Nynaeve push Egwene off a cliff.

I also like it as a sign of her authority - that the WC trust that she knows what she is doing (ie where & how to push a person into a river).  

I liked the brief nod Tam gave Rand.  I think it was very subtle but I got the feeling that most of their loved ones, while maybe in shock, were sort of saying "we'll understand & accept you have to leave".   

Have to remember, while unliked by many,  the Aes Sedai, especially in an area nominally controlled by Andor, would still be respected enough to have their words listened to by most.   

In the end I definitely feel second viewings, and reading the thoughts of WOT / Fantasy content creators is a great way to help adjust to any unexpected changes shown in the series.   Daniel Greens deep dive was pretty solid from a balanced critical pespective.  

Last but not least - just glad that we have the show to talk about.   It might not be everything everyone wanted but it can improve and will improve and for me at least it is really nice to have another means by which to enjoy the world of WOT.  

5 hours ago, Wassup said:

I didn't put this in my too long musings, but this bothered me.  Ta'veren was a term usually reserved for someone like Artur Hawkwing.  It is not a term that would be bandied about in the backwater towns about their common residents.  What kind of crazy stuff had to be going on in the Two Rivers for there to be talk of one ta'veren, let alone four?  People would be saying things like, " The only thing that comes out of the Two Rivers is sheep, tabac, and ta'veren."

I would say that for the non book readers it wont cause them any concern.   And since Moiraine is a Blue Ajah and they have Eyes & Ears I am simply going to assume it was those people who send her messages and not town gossip travelling via peddlers.  

7 hours ago, Agitel said:

 

I buy that based on everything I've seen.

Agreed.    Take for example why wasnt she at the Womans Circle ceremony for Egwene.   Well as a DF she wouldnt want to be?  Maybe the Wisdom had a hunch / didnt want her there?   

9 hours ago, KnightWhoSaysNi said:

Hi everyone! 

 

I'm new here and don't want to step on anyone's toes, obviously.  I just posted in the "Introduce Yourself" thread so if you want to know my backstory go there.  lol

 

I just watched the 1st episode.... twice.   I'm kind of split on if I liked it or not.   I'm definitely ecstatic that it is finally here, so I will watch it and continue to watch it.   I agree with one of the other posters about the editing.  It felt to cut-up and not fluid, made it a little dizzying to watch (I'm speaking mostly of the Battle of Bel Tine)  Of course, I may just be an old fart and get dizzy easily

 

Please be gentle, I am new here ? lol

Likewise.   In that I am new here, posted in Introduce Yourself, and concur with the editing.

In the long run Episode 1 will make no difference to me on whether I am going to watch the series or not - I am.  Basically you can say I loved the episode, liked it & disliked it all at once.  I will go into more detail later but here are some brief thoughts.

Love:

Loved finally seeing WOT on screen

Loved seeing the characters start their arcs & develop.    The scene between Rand & Egwene where Rand just "knew" she was going to become a Wisdom as an example.

Loved the fight at the farm.

Loved the presence of Moiraine.   

Like:

Liked the action.    

Liked the parts where they could stay true to the books as close as possible.  

Liked the look of the Trollocs

Liked how well Moiraine & Lan worked togetheri n the battle.

Liked the chemistry between most main characters.

Dislike:

No mention of the Flame & the Void (that I noticed).  

Emonds Field location bugged me.

Editing felt too rushed. 

Lan wanting warmer water.  

The way they left TR differed from the book

No nice mini arc of townspeople angry at Moiraine only to have the mayor shame them followed by Moiraine epic speech about Manetheren.

Still Processing

Perrin / Laila

I honestly think that the pilot opening episode could have been 75 min.   I totally get & wont be bothered that it was 60min.   Just that a slightly longer episode run time would hopefully have allowed for less of a rushed feel.  

I wont give a arbitrary grade to the episode.   I'll simply say it was a pass.  It got us off on the journey.   I have every confidence the episodes will improve.   I have no doubt that I will continue to enjoy WOT.  But I still wish the 1st episode, considering the length of time - could have been better.   A little worried that some (say maybe 20-25% of non book readers) people will start off the series on a negative and might not give it a chance to warm up.   

Get to watch it again tonight with my SO.  ??

Long long time fan of the Wheel of Time.    I cannot recall exactly when I started reading WOT but I do recall reading The Dragon Reborn in my last year of HS and that was almost 30 years ago.  ?    Major Fantasy Nerd for sure.  ?

Anyways I have been browsing & enjoying the forums for a few weeks - and really enjoying the Youtube content of DragonMount, Daniel Greene and several other WOT/Fantasy content creators.    

I was not sure if I was going to join - or just lurk from the shadows - no I am not a Fade I swear ? - but after all the love shown by so many WOT fans and watching the 1st episode - well like the title of the thread says - it was the doing of the wheel.  

I'll be watching the rest asap - and I have little doubt I will watch WOT for as long as it exists - but I will always be honest in my thoughts - both book & tv related.

Anyways glad to be here and very appreciative and grateful to all who have build Dragonmount into what it is today.   ?

Love the name!