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I don't think she was talking about Tear and The Stone being in Season 3, just confirming that there are plans to get to that part of the story in the future.

I guess Ishy is in one of the S3 posters. That puts the kibosh on my theory about him being dead for good, although that fact does make me a little bit sad.

I left this out of my earlier comments about Episode2x08 because I was pressed for time, so I'm bringing it up now: I really don't think they're gong to resurrect Ishy despite how good Fares Fares was in the role and even if his resurrected identity had parts to play in the story later on in the books.

Random thoughts fresh from rewatching Episode 2x08: * I still love that Rand just ganks Turak and his soldiers using the One Power * I know that the visual design of the Horn of Valere caused consternation for some people, but I personally loved it * Egwene getting to fulfill her promise and straight-up kill Renna still slaps as hard now as it did the first time I watched the episode * I really hope Season 3 Episode 8 starts with a Cold Open that's set in the Age of Legends because it'd be a shame to break the pattern * Mat and Uno being Heroes of the Horn was the perfect way to both delight book readers and subvert their expectations * I'm the type of person who doesn't believe that every narrative beat has to be either explicitly spelled out or shown onscreen, so the fact that we didn't actually get confirmation of Ingtar being a Dark Friend or see him and Loial get the Horn has never bothered me * I like the less rigid way that the show has treated the second and third of the Three Oaths when it comes to hostile situations and/or battle postures, and never understood the logic behind trying hard to poke holes in Moiraine's assault on the Seanchan ships (which some people did once upon a time) * Having Lanfear be afraid of Moggy was the perfect way to introduce the latter character

WoTTuber Lezbi Nerdy was speculating that the "it" Liandrin asked Nyomi about was the A'dam bracelet that was the very first thing that was grabbed, and she was additionally speculating that it's one of a pair that they're looking for and the the second might be found on a statue in Tanchico, which is why Liandrin, Joiya, and other Dark Friend Aes Sedai go there (as seen in the trailers). I don't personally have any idea what any of this means, but thought I'd put it out there anyway.

You're not alone in that. Internally, the locale was referred to as the FFH, but we didn't know what FFH stood for* until we got the flashback Cold Open to the episode Daes Dae'mar. * it's an acronym for Fishwives Fxck Hut

Except the picture frame she used didn't take her to Siuan's rooms in the Tower; it took her to a hut in Tear (the same hut that she and Siuan talked about wanting to retire to before their lives were upended by Gitara's Foretelling about the Dragon Reborn).

Again, nobody is making any attempt to explain how a 4/4 gender split makes sense given Lanfear's dialogue; they're just defaulting back to the visual appearances of the 8 statues. People also keep talking about Gaebril being the alias of a Forsaken other than Rahvin, but even as a spoiled non-book reader, I just don't see the evidence to support that idea, especially when you take into consideration the reality of the show needing to be both judicious and simplistic when it comes to the condensing of 14 books. IOW, if Rafe and his team didn't intend to use Rahvin, there's no need for them to have included the character of Gaebril at all.

There being 4 male Forsaken and 4 female Forsaken included in the show doesn't make sense given that Lanfear only name-checked two other females besides herself, which is why I'm beginning to think that the assertion that one of the unidentified statues being "clearly female" is wrong and that, in order to figure out who the last unidentified Forsaken is, we have to figure out how to square the statues with Lanfear's dialogue about the others... which nobody has really done as of yet.

Somebody elsewhere suggested that they're going with Aran'gar, but my thought there is that if that's the route they're going, it makes more sense in light of the Metaphysical change that they made that they give us Balthamel as a female-to-male Trans character (in spite of the problematic nature of having the first openly Trans character on the show be evil), which would explain both the feminine appearance of that one statue and Lanfear's use of the catch-all descriptor "the boys".

The back and forth over this one scene proves that some people have forgotten how to just enjoy things.

Even though I'm a spoiled non-book reader and therefore not entirely indicative of the general audience, there is absolutely no reason to think that the show won't go the simplest narrative route with Gaebril, which is to stick to him being Rahvin in disguise.

If Ishy comes back, it will likely just be in the same body and with the same identity. Resurrecting characters with completely new names and different physical appearances is a complexity that the show doesn't need to introduce, especially with the changes that they made to the Metaphysics of Reincarnation.

The known-to-audiences Forsaken heading into the premiere of Season 3: 1. Ishy (seen onscreen) 2. Lanfear (seen onscreen) 3. Moggy (seen onscreen) 4. Graendel (mentioned in dialogue) 5. Sammael (mentioned in dialogue) 6. Rahvin (alter-ego Lord Gaebril cast) Suspected Forsaken: 1. Asmodean (statue)

We've already got confirmation that Graendel is in the show. Heading into Season 3, we're only missing two confirmed Forsaken, one of which we can assume is definitely being included based on the statues that we saw in Season 1. There is an unidentified feminine-seeming statue that people were assuming meant that we were getting 4 male Forsaken and 4 female Forsaken, but Lanfear only naming 2 female Forsaken besides herself and using the catch-all term "the boys" kind of indicates a 5/3 male-to-female gender split so we kind of need to figure out if there's a male Forsaken that could realistically be rendered feminine in statuesque form.

Not true at all. They horizontally bisected a Brown Sitter and collapsed several sections of the Hall's support pillars and upper levels within seconds of Liandrin calling them to join her. Directly attacking Siuan was the third/fourth thing they did, and they only did that once they were in the center of the room.

Being able to turn one's usage of the One Power towards an offensive purpose is not the same thing as specifically training oneself to do so, and even the most well-trained person can have a slow reaction time depending on the circumstances they're facing. Under ordinary circumstances, it might strain credulity that 5-to-16 odds would favor the 5, but we don't know exactly how powerful that 5 were in terms of raw strength. Those 5 were also aided by the fact that 4 of them had the advantage of surprise.

Based on my own understanding of the ways that television storytelling differs - and has to differ - from literary storytelling, I do not foresee Verin being revealed to be a Dark Friend being positively received by general audiences based on the way she has been characterized to date, nor can I figure out how her actions to date can be squared with her being a Dark Friendand do not feel like general audiences will be able to do so either.

I don't know how to tag spoilers on these forums and so I was trying to comment my feelings without explicitly going into spoiler territory, but I'll just come right out and say it: I can't figure out how Verin's actions in the show thus far can continue to make any sense if she's revealed to be a Dark Friend, and I have a feeling that most of the general audience is going to retroactively feel similarly.

* Show!Verin's storyline deviating from that of her book counterpart (because I can't figure out how they can give her that storyline and have her actions thus far make sense) * Some kind of reconciliation between Moiraine and Siuan, especially if they're going to permanently remove Moiraine from the narrative

Some clarification about my concerns/confusion re: Verin: I'm struggling to comprehend/figure our how it's going to be possible to reveal her as a Darkfriend and still have her actions thus far in the show make sense.

If the reports from the Brazilian Comic-Con where this same Sneak Peek - or at least s version of it - was first screened are accurate, just under half of Episode 1 is going to be taken up by this one narrative sequence, which convinces me even more that, with only 8 episodes, they're actually not going to do the Tower Coup this season and instead save it for later. Regarding the Sneak Peek itself and the contents thereof, I'm struggling even more to figure out how they're going to make Show!Verin's story align with that of her book counterpart without breaking plausibility and creating a whole lot of cognitive dissonance.

We really don't actually need to know how/why the Two Rivers 5 and Co. went back to Tar Valon because it's not important to the story.

I'd forgotten just how vindicated I felt when Episode 2x07 explicitly confirmed everything that I had spent both the leadup to Season 2 and the six previous episodes of the season saying when it came to both the design and functionality of the A'dam and also explicitly confirmed everything that I continue to say about the show's interpretation of the metaphysics of reincarnation in the WoT world. I also find it kind of funny how dramatically opinions have shifted when it comes to what's to come for Mat because at the time 2x07 and 2x08 aired, the general consensus was that the 'tea visions' had replaced his experiences with the twisted redstone doorframe ter'angreal, but now everyone seems convinced that we're still getting said experiences.

Architecture.