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    12 minutes ago, Tamal said:

    . It is completely devoid of criticism, and sounds like hours of commercials. You're right. They defend every change, and it makes the whole "discussion" useless

    Just what I thought. After all if every change is done for clarity, the change to magic literally conflicts with liandrins comments and causes confusion and reducing clarity. Figures they would be just a bunch of people defending everything. 

    11 minutes ago, WhiteVeils said:

    So, you are saying because that if a discussion does not condemn the series, you dismiss it

    Considering that there is very easily criticism to be had, such as even lighting or how bad the aes sedai politics were? The fact that they have zero criticism to give is laughable at best.

    5 minutes ago, WhiteVeils said:

    It's not a commercial at all

    When all you can do is praise everything you are a commercial. Even game of thrones had criticism to be had. And that show was loads better then wheel of time.

    3 minutes ago, WhiteVeils said:

    If they did it, it's not for no reason...It's to make it easier for an audience to understand.

    You may not think that editing things for making the audience easier to understand is not a valid reason, but it's not no reason

    They literally cause even more confusion. 

    If men go crazy by using magic, and women use the same source how do women not go crazy?

    If the sources are seperate what was the point of liandrin saying the power is for women and men sully the source by using it?

     

    There is zero clarity there and I think your podcast is just an attempt to sweep crap under the rug.

    2 hours ago, fra85uk said:

    But Prime should be more popular for the simple fact that in many countries (eg here in Italy) people have Prime video included for free when subscribing for the shipping of goods

    Exactly. Prime gets you far more rhen just streaming. Whereas HBO is strictly shows

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    4 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

    That's... not an Agenda to weaken men.  That's stating they want sex scenes to empower women vs the way GoT did them.

    You can empower women without reducing men. You can develop women without reducing male development. 

     

    And yet they decided to grossly reduce male chatacter development scenes left right and center and take men's moments and give them to women. 

    And it was laughable watching "moiraine has a tell". Lan can't track his own aes sedai but nynave can. Please.

     

    How you can say they didn't diminish men is beyond me.

    10 minutes ago, ilovezam said:

    A feminist, female YouTuber articulates some of this stuff better than I could, check this out at this timestamp if you can. 

    She hits it well. And while I could totally see uplifting the others a bit and downplaying rand they took it so far with downplaying him that we literally have people asking if that rand as the DR was a red herring

     

    4 minutes ago, Skipp said:

    Nynaeve catching a couple fooling around a week before their wedding date.  I don't remember their punishment but it was something like neither could sit for a week after their wedding or something.

    And if that is what happens to two who are SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING MARRIED,  imagine what the response to "free sex" would be.

     

    5 minutes ago, AdamA said:

    Wheel of Time fans are not uniquely toxic at all as far as I can tell, but we are in the bad position here of the show coming on with a very atypical fantasy world full of non-white people and women in charge at the height of US culture wars and we've got a lot of red pill types who are seeing something much different than me in the gender dynamics and racial makeup of the cast that drives them into a rage,

    Nothing I saw in the books suggests the two rivers folk were white. 

    Considering rand was considered pale compared to them I had him pegged as white and the rest pegged as more Mediterranean. 

     

    That said I didn't like thd changes to the two rivers folk because it changes the fundamental nature of the EF5. they were supposed to be naive country hicks who didn't know anything about the outside world and who slowly grew up and had a learning curve. Same with their village and having to adapt to change as a bunch of refugees and outlanders slowly settled in

     

    That transformation is utterly ripped out because of how the show starts and means that we lose out on character development as the series goes on. Which is sad because they have already done an incredibly bad job in that regard as is

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    2 hours ago, ilovezam said:

    justify changes like the fourth Oath and the Logain seeing Nynaeve channeling stuff on Twitter

    She justified both of those? What the...

     

    Look all I know is that if I was the book lore person I would have either quit by now or made it abundantly clear that

    1) I fought against big anti lore changes.

    2) that I was shot down anyway.

    3) that I do not support them.

     

    1 minute ago, Elder_Haman said:

    Okay. But still above average. I'm not sure what point you're trying to argue here. 

    I'm sorry, I wasn't aware a a 6.5 or 7.2 was the standard when you are trying to be GoT.

    Just now, Elder_Haman said:

    Perfection or nothing!!!

    perfection? no.

    but when you try to compare it to Game of Thrones you have set a HIGH BAR. and they FAILED utterly.

    Just now, notpropaganda73 said:

    C'mon, nobody is arguing that they'd prefer a 7 to a 9 haha

    With the way so many of you show fans are defending the show so hard, You certainly give the impression that a 7 is perfectly acceptable. Sorry not sorry but When i hear "We want this to be our GoT" the standard is a lot higher then that. stop defending shoddy writing and changes.

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    14 minutes ago, Elder_Haman said:

    In such a system 5 is meant to represent the mid point, meaning average. Neither good nor bad. Any score above 5 is therefore 'good' by definition and every score below 5 is 'bad' by definition. The 'goodness' or 'badness' increasing as you approach the limits.

    and while in theory i'd like to agree with you, based on what i've seen people rarely if ever give something below a 5. want proof? Go look at the ratings people give for McDonald's. even crappy McDonald's fast food rates around a 3.5 to 4 stars out of 5. even critics rarely score stuff that. food for thought but shannara chronicles and chilling adventures of sabrina were rated by critics right around what WoT was, and neither made it very far. take that for what you will.

     

    When even Sanderson makes qualifying statements about his like of the show, and that is able to take criticism, maybe the showrunners shouldn't be so quick to discount what other people are saying.

     

    furthermore, sorry, but i'd rather have a 9 REALLY GOOD then a 7 passively good any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Especially when you're talking about a show with a budget the size, backing, and marketing of wheel of time.

    the goal, stated by amazon, was for this to be there game of thrones.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/ 9.2, despite the last seasons.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7462410/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 7.2.

    I'd say they missed the mark.