Cauthonfan4
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11 minutes ago, VooDooNut said:He can't write the show how Robert Jordan would have written it, because he isn't Robert Jordan
no he said "I'm going to write the show how Robert would have written it today". so basically he's saying this is what Robert should have done. which is exactly what you just said us fans can't do, Tell the author how to write it. as if Rafe could even hold a candle to Robert Jordan. Even as confusing as the end of EotW was, Rafe did an even worse job.
11 minutes ago, VooDooNut said:he can certainly try to reflect Jordan's style, based on Rafe's own interpretation of the WOT series, but it's still an interpretation.
If you consider this an interpretation...
11 minutes ago, VooDooNut said:It will live or die by their design.
considering season 1 got a 7.2 and that was with book fans willing to give it a shot? and they just alienated a lot of them and even pushed away a bunch of other people I doubt the show does well going forward.
Funny how Game of Thrones kept the fans in the loop and did really really well for the first 4 seasons and got plenty of post show book sales as well...
for a show that was supposed to be "Amazons Game of Thrones" they sure don't think like Game of Thrones did.
I don't even get why he went out of his way to alienate the target audience. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.
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5 minutes ago, Andra said:Do you really think Rafe has ever done anything like that?
Considering Rafe is doing literally what voodoo said we as fans don't get to do?
5 minutes ago, Andra said:Hell, he has repeatedly said that he intended to alienate them.
which is the sad thing because it was literally the fans who wanted this show for so long, and pushed for it, and instead of catering to those fans who spent so much time pushing for the show, he caters to other people instead. makes absolutely no sense. I'll literally never endorse another Rafe show because of this and frankly I don't know how he can consider himself a fan after everything he's done.
he's literally and intentionally alienated the fans (admitted by his own words), threw out the source material to push his own agenda (admitted by his own words), and then refuses to budge despite literally writing the WORST episode in the entire season.
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4 minutes ago, VooDooNut said:I read the first book in Mistborn and was not blown away.
I too did not like Mistborn. on the other hand i absolutely loved Way of the Kings. Two very different books with two very different approaches.
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11 minutes ago, VooDooNut said:It would be outside of our responsibilities as readers to tell Robert Jordan how to write his books, other than through public reaction (not dictation) as post-release feedback.
tell that to Rafe then, who literally said he'd write the show how Robert would write it today.
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3 minutes ago, Andra said:
It's unrealistic to expect those who have developed the intended attachment to ignore drastic changes to what they're attached to.
Rafe at least understands this, because he even said he expects book fans to be upset.
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11 hours ago, expat said:? They are Robert Jordon's characters, world, story and magic system
And the TV show looks nothing like his story so maybe they should change the name.
Entire characters are changed, the world cultures are non existent, and the magic system is gone as well.
You want to talk about ownership still?
Or maybe stop trying to change something into what it's not. Advice rafe could take as well.
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1 hour ago, DaddyFinn said:
We also don't know how accurate and trustworthy that "synopsis" is
Considering what it said about season 1 I'd say it's not very accurate.
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59 minutes ago, EmreY said:
You know you want to.
Short of w complete reboot I've already checked out.
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1 hour ago, Skipp said:
Most if the show starts strong in season 2.
So are they going to hire a new writing team then?
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12 minutes ago, noodlemans said:
My wife enjoyed the show much more than me but she's very confused by a lot of it
This Is what I'm seeing. A lot of I like it but it's confusing and frustrated over it and don't want to continue.
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1 minute ago, EmreY said:
This is obviously bad news, proves that everyone hated it, interest and word of mouth were non-existent
Meanwhile episode 8 was almost universally panned as subpar, so again, how many will be back?
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On 1/26/2022 at 11:25 AM, Lethira the second said:
but I think of EoTW as more a loss of innocence than coming of age. Moving from a simple fairly conservative village into the wide world. Of course, we didn't really get that either from the series
Was going to say...nothing about their village talked about innocence or a conservative village. So what is shown in tbst blurb above is grade a bull to begin with.
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9 hours ago, VooDooNut said:
Mat's character growth will continue to be explored in season 2
Continue? You act as if he got actual growth in season 1. Instead he got character regression.
He starts as a thief or conman who cares about his sisters.
He then progresses to stealing from the dead and abandoning his friends
Then he is being called evil by moiraine and having the reds sent after him.
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I think the real question is how far will viewer numbers fall for season 2 after how poorly season 1 ended.
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I got my gf into the books before the show came out.
She likes the books and dislikes the show.
Her parents dropped it after episode 7 calling it a teenage drama set in a fantasy world.
A friend from work watched it and liked it. He got the first book and read it and liked the book more and then rewatched the show and is now boggled about why they changed stuff.
Another friend watched it and liked it but won't read the books. "Thr show was decent but not good enough for me to want to continue".
Another coworker watched it and liked it but wondered why so many men were incompetent and why thr women were badass, saying it really made her mad that there wasn't more equality.
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I also find the wafo argument to be bad at best.
After everything they did in season 1 to our characters, world, story and magic system why would I want to watch season 2?
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On 1/26/2022 at 1:12 AM, DaddyFinn said:
They better put him through all the awful stuff and not hold back. I will riot otherwise
Considering it's a huge part of his story...
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3 minutes ago, Ralph said:
He did say he did a good job adapting it.
For how they chose to adapt it. Key words.
4 minutes ago, DaddyFinn said:Purely subjective. Episode 7 is my favorite because of Tigraine and Rand
And yet also had badly written teenage drama as well. Cold open was okay. The Rand reveal was middle of the road.
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1 hour ago, king of nowhere said:
But he's an awesome storyteller, so they should probably listen to him for plot structure.
When brandon descrived nyn and egw fighting at fal dara, realizing they are not trained enough to be effective, lan helping nyn and protecting her like he did moiraine... I though, what a wonderful chance we missed
Exactly. They didn't use Brandon at the end and didn't listen to his advice elsewhere and it backfired. He may not be a scriptwriter but he came up with a far better adaptation then them and that's with him being polite to avoid throwing them completely under the bus.
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6 minutes ago, DaddyFinn said:
They have. Of course they won't do everything that Brandon suggests
And let's see. Minimal consulting on 5 and 6 and yeah, No consulting on episodes 7 and 8. Easily rhe weakest part of the season.
Thry ignored his advice avout perrin and we all see how that turned out...
7 minutes ago, DaddyFinn said:Otherwise Brandon should be the showrunner
I'm 10000% okay with this.
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How different is too different?
in Wheel of Time TV Show
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And thats the crux of the issue. the Actors are what is carrying the show right now. it certainly isn't the writing. Nothing Rafe is doing is what is carrying the show. imagine how much better we have without RAFE AND CO.
why would i watch it? it's literally already alienated me with all the changes that didn't need to happen, with the lack of development of the characters, and with the changes to the magic system and world that didn't need to happen. and that's saying something because book 1 was light on the development of all 3. I feel absolutely no desire to help a show I didn't ask for Succeed.