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    22 minutes ago, Cranglevoid said:

    We're dealing with a world with actual magic, and thus a tool to justify literally anything (especially if you start to ignore the rules of the magic in question)

    This is a huge problem for me.

    A magic system without any rules and that just exists and anyone can do anything with seems a lot like plot armor or a plot device. 

     

    The shows magic so far doesn't appear to have ANY RULES and exists solely to move ghe plot forward by being whatever the writers need it to be 

     

    It's one of the huge reasons they should have just written their own show because this clearly isn't wheel of time. Oh they have names and places but that's it.

     

    The cultures? The world building? The magic system? It's gone. 

     

    Is the show completely terrible? No. The acting was solid and episode 4 was pretty good. But when the expectation (set by Amazon) was the next game of thrones, they have so far missed the mark by a wide margin.

    1 minute ago, KakitaOCU said:

    Look, it's clear you're not coming to this with good faith.

    Even using your numbers they shouldn't be able to wipe out 5k+. So yes. Consistently inconsistent is still true.

     

    3 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

    I fully admitted circles appear to work differently and we don't know enough to know what that means

    When your magic system has no clear rules and is used to further the plot your magic system is not a magic system and just a crutch. This is a huge part of the problem with yhe show. 

    1 minute ago, KakitaOCU said:

    Meanwhile Egwene has 3 threads comparable to Moraine and Nynaeve has 5.  Which at face value puts the two of them together at being somewhere between 4 and 8 times more powerful

    Which doesn't mean wiping out 5k with ease.

    Let's assume even 8 times stronger for niceness. They should he able to hold there own against a few hundred, maybe a thousand. 

    Not 5 ot 20k.

     

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    4 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

    Not relevant, because it's not the argument I made.

    I said Moraine Might have been equal to 3 people who were weak

    Unless they nerfed moiraine from the books no. And nothing I saw indicated she was nerfed seeing as she was held on the same level as liandrin and others, if not higher. 

    4 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

    I was saying we're talking about significant power gaps between Moraine vs Nynaeve+Egwene

    So now our power creep is so high that when rand wipes out a horde outside Maradon its going to need to be around a hundred thousand to rven have the intended impact. If not higher.

    4 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

    If you're not interested in debating the actual point being made, fair, I'll stop engaging with you

    Rich coming from a guy who makes a false claim and then pretends he didn't.

    3 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

    How does it not matter?  Moraine was struggling in the middle of a swarm

    She wasn't in the middle of a swarm at that time. They were all bunched up and waiting to charge her. With nothing between her and them.

    4 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

    The group of five were facing a swarm all nicely bunched together with no concern for fallout or collateral

    And so that excuses wiping out hordes when moiraine struggled with a dozen or two? Get real?

    Gonna excuse nynaeve somehow knowing how to take control of a circle without training and save egwene too?

    What about egwene saving near death?

     

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    1 minute ago, KakitaOCU said:

    Her being personally weak isn't really relevant to the point being made

    You literally said...

     

    21 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

    Moraine MIGHT have been equal to the NPC and the 2 no names

    Which is about as far from truth as you can get. So yes. It's an entirely relevant point. 

    Then again I'm talking to someone who I've literally seen defend just about everything on this show so why am I not surprised 

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    17 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

    Moraine MIGHT have been equal to the NPC and the 2 no names, But she's nothing to Nynaeve and Egwene.  And this wasn't untrained, this was someone trained but weak wielding Nynaeve and Egwene's strength

    Doesn't matter. You're talking about struggling vs a couple dozen trollocs and wiping out 5 to 20k without them touching you dude. Stop making excuses and attempting to deflect. Even other die hard supporters realize the power creep there is a huge issue.

     

    Also the npc you are referring too was too weak for formal tower training and was turned away. Moiraine is EASILY stronger then her. So you're deflection is Terrible and full of issues.

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    9 hours ago, KakitaOCU said:

    Which contradictions would those be?

     

    Either the source is split and liandrins comments avout men channeling are invalid or the source is joined and somehow women magically don't go crazy when channeling.

     

    As an example. Not to mention those listed above. 

     

    8 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

    no, I'm talking that the wottv didn't adapt just the eye of the world, it pulled in plots from other books

    Which isn't the same as adapting 3 full books.

    8 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

    it is a commonly held opinion - not just mine, but shared by many recensions i read - that the show could have done a lot better with 10 hours instead of 8

    And I agree 10 episodes would have been better. However when lotr can flesh out 3 books worth of characters in roughly 9 hours but you can't even flesh out a little over one (and that's being generous) in 8 hours, you must have missed the mark somewhere and misused your time. 

    1 hour ago, SingleMort said:

    It seems to be semantics whether you want to consider them 1 book or 3 (they were originally and in some cases still are published in separate parts)

    I think he's referring to the hobbit. Which frankly is a terrible deflection.

     

    The original movies translated 3 books in roughly 9 hours and the characters actually felt fleshed out and well done (for the most part) meanwhile eotw couldn't do crap in 8 hours.

    7 hours ago, VooDooNut said:

    Fortunately, all the mental gymnastics required for that is being patient.

    Assuming that actually happens. But it's frustrating as hell watching all the super badass women scenes, only to watch men be complete failures at worst, and mildly incompetent at best.

     

    I mean seriously, reverse the genders and what do you think would happen? Think the outrage about men is bad? Give us a season of women being nothing but damsels in distress. 

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    9 minutes ago, ilovezam said:

    Contrast this with Arcane, where the main character is female, lesbian, and goes through an utterly enthralling and badass journey, while male characters (white, black, furry) also get a complete opportunity to show their ability and complexity in character, good and/or bad

    Another good example of a strong female lead where we still have quality male characters is in horizon zero dawn.

     

    Look at how erend or Aratatak change over the course of the game.

     

    I can't think of any gamer I know who doesn't love the game, and I dont recall much if any backlash about a female protagonist.