HeavyHalfMoonBlade

If Sooh doesn't come online, and Gudrean and Dice don't change their vote we can only lynch Andy without Turin or Zander voting for themselves. I don't like it.

Andy needs to vote and then two people change for a lynch, at least? Or a completely new train but that is seeming unlikely at the moment.

If the cops dies, we will be told when they flip. Zander's idea is that one name from everyone should show then which player the dead cop got a read on, but a 50% chance of a positive or negative.

I think I still prefer Turin, but would be prepared to move to Zander for a lynch... though that is maybe not going to happen tonight which would be bad I think. Even a mislynch might help focus teh suspicions because we are all over the place at the moment.

Andy is here, I can see her reacting. Hopefully we will hear from her soon.

I can really only see a vote on Turin or Zander. Dice is my third option, but probably with one of those two. Just don't have enough of a read on the other players to risk a vote on them. Wish I was feeling more confident, and very surprised I haven't already been lynched.

I have to say Dice putting your disagreement down to town on town violence seems strange, indeed anyone that doesn't have at least one of me, Turin or Zander as a wolf seems to know something I don't. It would seem odd not to take sides in the debate. Thinking we are all town just doesn't seem that likely. Does it? Or am I crazy there?

I'm so paranoid. Still paranoid Turin and Zander are actually working together, new paranoia about Zander and Dice. And when the other players come on I'll probably develop new paranoia's. With no safe vote.

So even if both people show, someone will need to change their vote... I don't feel comfortable with voting Andy, and Turin and Zander both seem so guilty...

I'm not liking this. I trust Gudrean and Andy, not Dice and Zander, and I'm having to resist Turin's charm. Don't like the train on Andy - Dice is literally incorrect on her post, she absolutely does not double down on being a wolf, even if that is what she said that would make no sense, and it isn't what she said. That said, it isn't like I think she is Town, I just think she is one of the least suspicious people. I feel totally lost now, don't have a feel for it at all. Feel like anything I do will at best be a shot in the dark, probably guided by a wolf. Very frustrating.

My bad - I meant Dice's reads don't make sense, and your behaviour was a big part of my suspicion of him. Sorry for the unclear pronoun use.

This was one of the reasons we were sussing Mills - both he and Cairos made ooo, Dice is the best player of all time comments. But that narrative is dead now Mills is dead and confirmed Town. I'd be totally suspicious apart from how suspicious you and Zander already are. You cannot all be wolves.

How? Andy mentions a Sheriff and Godfather in a lite RP post. Dice explains the rules of the game, Andy asks if she was using the term wrong or if his explanation was aimed at her. He said it wasn't. Which part of that says wolf to you? And why only Andy and not your bestest buddy?

I'm pointing out the what the words she used mean in the English language. You were nearly bursting into tears because someone questioned your wrestling buddy. Not exactly the same thing. I was not questioning that you were defending your read on Dice, but the emotional heft of you doing so. Again, words, having meaning and all that.

This is the post where Andy responds to Dice explaining what the Godfather is, and why this is not a completely basic game. Nothing suspicious here at all.

It is in the post she first votes. It is the only time she says Godfather I can see. I can see maybe where Dice corrects her, but I doubt that is anything suspicious.

I've not really seen anything to make me think Andy is a wolf. Don't really have a read on her. Dice is only coming up on my radar now. I was suspicious at end of day yesterday, hut I think Mills being NKd kind of stopped that chat. Though a big part comes from Z's behaviour now and I don't think his reads make sense. Zander seems really really suspicious. Like really. From the beginning. Sooh. Not sure. Plausible either way but think we need to look at the more likely ones. Don't think I am likely to vote for her.

Zander backing Dice again... I thought you were sold on me and Turin. Every post suspicious!

That is literally not what she said. She referred to a wolf as a vote for being a wolf. In context it is perfectly clear. Sooh's read fair enough, but it really feels like you are running interference rather than trying to solve, but that is what it seems like for everyone. You cannot literally all be wolves. But two from Turin/Zander/Dice? I just don't know though if it is, that is some good odds right there.

All I can see is where Andy talks about the Sheriff not being able to protect Donchadh from the Godfather - it doesn't relate to any player. If there is any other comment, I did not see it.

We never found it. It seemed that Andy used the term Godfather mistakenly but I never saw that post... Only the correction. Andy isn't a spammed so it shouldn't be difficult to find...

Yes, the mafia/wolves are a minority. Z is never a wolf, but sometimes a minority villager. It is a bad joke. The interchanging mafia/town and werewolf/villager is annoying, but it seems unavoidable. Though yes if you don't pick up on what villa means (villager/town) that is just going to be really confusing.

Also, no matter what we think, it is what the silent majority want that will carry the day. How convincing have we been that we are innocent ones? Wish I knew that for me... I tend to notice a bit of old player bias... Only explanation, lol.

Well I was totally convinced Turin was either setting me and Zander up for a double mislynch to win the game, or he was working with Zander to knock me off. Now I have no idea. Zander's behaviour when Dice is mentioned is as sus as get out, but that would mean I have no idea at what Turin is up to. I simply don't know, and guess I won't be surviving to D3 anyway. But Turin or Zander? Both would make it easy but I don't think this game is ever easy.

He means mafia, there are more villagers than wolves and Z is never a wolf. Just sometimes his villagers are outnumbered.