Wheel of Time Books

I recently reread the series for the first time in over a decade. Things have changed in my life then, I am now a parent. Something really bothered me and the end of MoL. Okay so.. Rand and Tam was always treated a little strangely. Rand never saw Tam again until Cadsuane brought them together. Rand told himself he was protecting them and maybe be believed it. But this was "dark rand" and to an extent it all made sense. But then we have "Zen Rand" who loves his father and thinks that his upbringing is the main difference between him and Lews. Yet... he lets Tam bury him! Even if Tam finds out the next day that Rand is dead, Tam spent 24 hours havin…

I’m a new reader of the series, I’m almost finished with Book 5, Fires From Heaven. My question is this Am I honestly supposed to be on the Aes Sedai’s side? Or even like them? Specifically what triggered this is Nynaeve in Ghealdan. She, and many other Aes Sedai characters constantly berate and criticize men, call them stupid and untrustworthy, and then finds out she basically started a riot and war in Ghealdan. Then later in the chapter she basically just solely blames Galad for it, when she basically lit the match because she was so ignorant and arrogant at what she was doing. And the Aes Sedai are no different. The tower falling wa…

I am rereading the series for the second time end to end, but like many have read the earlier books much more and, with the release of the TV show, have found myself reassessing some of the earlier books. I remember I bought the first 3 maybe 4 books all together, I was going on holiday and wanted a fantasy series to read. I had just finished the 2nd Thomas covenant trilogy and, naively, thought that a 6 books series (book 6 had recently been released) was a complete series. I will be honest, Eye of the world was a struggle. I didn’t find it the can’t put down book some seem to, I do now, but that first read through it just all felt very generic, espec…

Hi fellow WoT fans! I’m new to the community so I please forgive me if I may have missed this potential discussion in a thread posted previously. Is it just me, or did anyone else interpret the lighting of Rands pipe as almost a nod to the Aiel and one other culture (tremalking perhaps? I am only on first reread so my memory of initial read isn’t the best) who viewed life as a dream, combined with what we know about tel’aran’rhod. If you become a master of the world of dreams, whatever you think becomes so. Could it be that Rand conquered the next level of “the dream”? Seeing the world as the aiel so much so that thought becomes reality?

Hi wot lovers, I have never read the series, but am part of other communities like this so I hope I've come to the right group of passionate people! I have a good friend who has just finished reading the whole series earlier this year and I'm organizing his bachelor party. We're putting a lot of effort into a trivia game for him and I wanted to include a great question about Wheel of Time. I am hoping someone can help me come up with an extremely difficult to answer or obscure question. Maybe something about a bit of a silly or non-memorable character, not necessarily just difficult because it requires you to add up how many times some…

I am in half of book two of wheel of time and I have never read a series where SO MANY characters as annoying as s***t. They are so unlikeable and idiotic - Nynaeve, Rand, Mat - Egwene is the only one of the two river fork who doesn't consistently act like a moron. Do they ever evolve out their idiotic sheep wool heads? Love the magic system but I am not sure i can tolerate the super annoying characters. Is there hope?

So before I give my list, just a little background: I started reading this book series about 20 years ago as a 6th grader, and I just started re-reading the series & listening on Audible in anticipation of the TV show. That background is important because as a kid my list would have been: #1) Mat: Funny, Lucky, Relatable --- just trying to keep his head down, but plays an Epic part (and a person could continue to write about what happens with Mat (and Tuon). #2) Lan: Mysterious, Bad-Ass Warder, Borderland-Warrior, King --- he would have been #1 except that almost nothing was written from his point of view (until Sanderson). #3) Rand: Centr…

Hey Folks, New to these forums and to the Wheel of Time universe, I just finished binge watching Season 2 and loved it so thought about buying the books to get stuck into those since it's no doubt going to be another 1.5-2 years for season 3 to release. So this post is mainly to just say hi to everyone and if you have any tips for reading the books let me know 🙂 Thanks, Steven

A text from a hypothetical Jordan/Tolkien crossover, in which (of course) Shai'tan and Morgoth and identified as one and the same. This particular text is inspired by the section in Morgoth's Ring titled: On the motives in 'The Silmarillion'. Both Sauron and Morgoth are given a place in that essay, and this is a hypothetical addition about Ishamael in it. Please tell me what you think and thank you in advance!:) Ishamael was, if not the most moral, at least the least petty and selfish among all the Forsaken, and even among many servants Morgoth had through the ages, divine (as Sauron and the Balrogs) or mortal (as the Men of Darkness in the…

I know we have never seen it so this is something to which there may never be an answer but could the oath rod have been used in a way to control a male chanaller before the taint was healed? We see that collared Aes Sedai are unable to be used as weapons, the oaths bond them and prevent them from killing meaning the Seanchan have to fund alternate uses for them. So could a Male be bonded to the oath rod in a way that prevented them from hurting anyone when they went mad? Or would the madness override the oaths?

Healing can’t be an ordinary weave. weaves do a thing. A construct acts situationally. If someone is anemic, it increases their blood clot factor, if someone is suffering clots it reduces the blood clot factor. If someone has a wound in one part of the body, it only “heals” there. we were introduced to the idea of other kinds of weaves that heal specific parts of the body like the heart, and one Aes Sedai can dial in the power so carefully that she can heal someone just enough to live without healing the body so completely that the patient dies from the loss of energy, but she can’t prevent the weaves from healing a scratch while it heals the lung.

Something occurred to me in my reread. I’m not as familiar as the OG fans with the intricacies of everything that has happened and has already been discussed and explained, so please forgive my ignorance. Anyway, I don’t understand how nyneave was able to get the best of moggie in FOH by using the a’dam and forkroot in TAR. We have already been privy to her apparent knowledge, skill, experience and ease in the dream world, especially but not exclusively by her handling of birgitte. I would think she would have known that she could have undone the situation nyneave put her in simply by employing her knowledge of how the world of dreams works. Anyone who can help clarify th…

Hi, Brand new to the site and just finished reading the books. I enjoyed them very much and love the characters created in them, Mat and Elayne being among my favorites. I ask this with all due respect to Robert Jordan, has there been any discussion of someone writing more WOT books? Surely there is some evil out there yet for the White/Dark Towers to fight. Mat with the Seanchan, the Sharans, would love to see more on Elayne. Has there been any talk of this? Thanks

We recently learned that lanfear was indeed able to use some form of compulsion on Perrin in the final book, making him believe he killed her. I’m rereading the series for the first time, and I just came across a passage from ACOS where Rand is contemplating why Perrin is so adamant that the aes sedai prisoners not be harmed and he wonders if he was manipulated by the power in some way. In hindsight, and admittedly Rand isn’t necessarily thinking clearly, but could he have been right?

Hi everyone - I (M26) am an innocent, uncorrupted, crawling-on-the-floor WOT baby. I have not seen the series (not even a trailer), I have not looked at fan art of the characters or engaged with any discussions because I want to experience it through my imagination and not be influenced by anything other than the words on the pages. I often think what it would be like to experience some of my favourite content for the first time again, so I thought this might be a good place to share my experience reading WOT for the first time as a newbie! (If this is not the right place - please let me know! Thanks!) My wife got me the first book a few years ago …

I just got to the introduction of Cadsuane on my reread, only read the series once, and I am enjoying being reminded about how fun it is to read anything involving her. I forgot about something that confounded me on my first read through but reading it again I’m still just as confused. What is the “vileness” after the aiel war she refers to? Or does it actually get explained later on and I simply forgot or didn’t catch it? Either way I’d love the answer

Just doing my first reread, on LOC. Maybe it doesn’t matter, but I can’t help but want answers for every question. Any clues why liah wasn’t found on initial trip? Where was she, what happened?

So re reading a MOL several times I have started to pick out more things that just don't sit well with me in terms of the narrative storytelling around the last battle. One of these is that I find it frustrating that Mat never gets any real acceptance of his tactical brilliance from Demandred. It feels narriativley that there needs to be a moment, even if just before he dies, that it is revealed to Demandred that Rand is not and has never been at the last battle and his efforts to draw out the fight have led to his losing. I am happy that Lan got the killing blow, and did it with a technique he taught rand all the way at back at the start of book when the journey re…

A short song I had written about Rand's final confrontation with the Dark One, inspired by ancient mythic songs and, of course, Tolkien's own songs (specifically Song of Eärendil and Duel of Songs). I tried to phrase it in ways it would mirror ancients songs, while doing Rand's glory at Tarmon Gai'don justice as well. Here it is: The Dragon rode on the winds of time, a gift of the One to humankind, the Hope of all who ever lived, the Champion of the endless strife. The flowers blossomed before him, the only light in the days dim, the beasts all gathered in greeting, the Spawn of the Shadow retreating. T…

Just frivolous fun, I’m going through Harry Potter again and I can’t help but think about what would happen if mcgonigall and Cadsuane met. Friends or foes?

So I was wondering this today: Ever since I started reading the the books for the first time, way back when, I have been living in this perpetual loop of reading and re-reading and once the whole series is done going back to EoTW and staring all over again. I mean, don't get me wrong, I read other books in between 😅, but I always have a WoT book going on the background. It feels like home to me. And it kinda soothes me to be in Robert's world. Like at the moment I am reading and re-reading Path . Is there anyone else who is like me or am I just a psycho (as per my best friend who introduced me to RJs world)? I r…

I know I'm in a good book or series when I start talking to, or rather fussing at, the characters. "The Testing" tore me to shreds. It was such a powerful set of tests, and I could feel Nynaeve's pain at every step. I have had this series on my To Read list for years. Why I took so long to start it is beyond my comprehension, but I am hooked and can't get enough. Has anyone else had a similar reaction to "The Testing" chapter?

Hello:) since the TV series came out, a lot is different. There was a project here on the plattform and also by Ta'veren Tees about Mats game of Crowns. I am looking for a set of rules, but I havent found anything. Could anyone be of help here? Best Thorsten

More suggestions for phrases Wheel of Time fans never say please.

Hi All, What is a fine/fine unsigned set going for these days? thanks, -Paul

Hey guys! I'm a long time fan of the series and recently decided to do my first reread. I've also been inspired to collect the hardcover first printings that I didn't have from my first time around. I now have first prints of every book except the first one. I know this is quite a rare find and good condition however I thought I would try my luck here. I'm not looking for an autographed version. I would prefer the first state but would consider second state if no other option. I've been checking on eBay and Abe books but no luck so far. If anyone has any other ideas or by chance has one they'd be willing to sell please let me know!

Just did a quick search to see if this had been asked before, and yay, are there some interesting threads out there. A letter to Pam Korda... Anyway. back to the point of discussion. Could an Emond Fielder, such as Rand, kill a female trolloc? I am torn on the subject, not least because, ewwwww, but would they see the humanity and helplessness in them and their "all too human eyes"TM or would they be happy to remove the source of the trolloc threat. And why do wolves call Myrddral Neverborn, when they are? Has no one ever taken a wolf aside and explained the birds and the bees and the trollocs? Perhaps it is about time.

Was just going through a reread and one character that I really adore the more I read the book is Setale Anan she is such an interesting character. I like how she's an example of the risks of researching, she burns herself out but doesn't die or give up, doesn't have some massive quest just has a family and builds a life with them. The way she becomes protective of Mat is great she just kind of adopts him. How she stands up for Mat and feels like Elayne and Nynaeve are bad news. Drags Elayne and Nynaeve through the city and every tavern telling everyone how they were broke because they were trying to outspend each other to impress a man and needed help. Just k…

A thread on the TV forum about the arches got me thinking about the nature of ter'angreal and how they relate, in particular as a type of magic item in other fantasy. I think we as readers get caught up in the mystique of them, mainly because the characters do, and so that means we mis something fairly obvious. Ter'angreal where not special in the age of legends, everyone had them and 99.9% of those that where made where created to do fairly mundane everyday things. You want to brush your teeth without moving your hand, there is a ter'angreal that does that, you want to call or text a friend to meet up, a ter'angreal does that, when you meet up you want a hot coffee or a …

Manetheren was an end of Breaking society unlike most of the modern nations. It was tucked deep into a mountain range, prioritizing protection from attack over trade. But the society would have had to fail eventually or so significantly readjusted from defense to trade for the country to survive, a very unlikely action. Most modern countries and capitals are on navigable waters.